Question on Noah's Ark

[JD16]

Worse then that even... divorce rates (as well as domestic violence, by the way) is actually HIGHER in religious households.

Can you blame them? If I was forced to read the bible daily, who knows how long I can last before I finally snap and go all Ted Bundy over the people around?

 

[AV1611VET]

Can you blame them? If I was forced to read the bible daily, who knows how long I can last before I finally snap and go all Ted Bundy over the people around?

Cause and effect?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

To you?


personally you wouldn't get hung up on the "interpretation" of it... if its true or false, it doesn't matter to you?

You don't care if the "interpretation" is the TRUTH?

it doesnt bother you if someone personally alters GOD's TRUTH to imply something that GOD did NOT say?

Replace "god" with "allah" or "visjnoe" and "bible" with "quran" or "bagavad ghita".
Then re-read your post and the one you are responding too.

I dare to say that now you are in agreement.
To you the quran and the bagavad ghita are just books written by men.
I bet you don't loose any sleep pondering about different interpretations of hinduism or islam. Right?

In fact, I bet you have never even opened up these books and read a single line it.
That's how little you care about those other religions. Or indeed any religion that isn't the one you happen to buy into.

Consider how mega-irrelavent those scriptures and beliefs are to your life.
Consider how little you have worried about not being able to dine with Odin and Thor in the great halls of Whalhalla.
Consider how little you have worried about being reincarnated as an insect.

Now consider that your religion has the exact same effect on us as all those other religions have on you...

 

[JD16]

Cause and effect?

Trying to make sense of a magical world where it contradicts itself is one thing, forcing myself to believe it would definitely push me way over the edge,...its a guarantee I would go all OT and wreak havoc

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Lies in medical and science data would not go over very well

Yet you don't really mind the WORD of GOD being compromised

The difference is that false data in medical sciences have real-world consequences.
People can and will die or hurt as a direct result of it.

But wheter or not you believe that Marry was a virgin or not, makes no difference at all.

 

[Skreeper]

Timing. You ask, God answers, then at that moment, He delivers.
Action, response, reaction.....it's all very scientific.

It's not scientific if it's based on a fallacy. "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X."
See Post hoc ergo propter hoc - Wikipedia

I'll give you another example. A true story.
A person called by God is sent on a mission.
In a blinding snowstorm he is stopped by the edge of a river.
He stands and waits for the next step, becasue he knows
God sent him on this quest.

Out of the blizzard a man arrives in a boat to pick him
up and help him cross the river.

The boat man relates that he was awoken in the middle of the
night and "told" he was needed at the river. Going to the river
he finds a row-boat used for helping people cross the water.

He heads out in the storm to find the person he is supposed to help.
He arrives on the opposite shore and finds the man on the mission.

All random chance in the middle of the night?

Nice story but it does not demonstrate that the prayer or god caused these events to happen. You cannot rule out random chance/luck because it seems unlikely to you.

We can find similar stories in all kinds of different religions so it is nothing exclusive to your brand of religion.

Maybe you can elaborate on the "boat man" part. What exactly does "someone told him he was needed at the river" mean?
So far I'm not even sure I believe this story actually happened.

 

[miknik5]

Reenactment as in type. Adam and Eve were a type of God and Lucifer. The rebellion of Eve is a type of the rebellion of Lucifer. Unless this is understood not much else makes any sense. The "mystery of iniquity" is a type of the rebellion of Lucifer, and of Eve.

"And" (expressing the foregone conclusion) makes the most sense if you understand the narrative. Most should start with "but" and graduate to "and" as a natural progression of the story as a reenactment. God hides little tidbits of knowledge here and there. We as future kings have to search it out. Proverbs 25:2

You don't seem terribly shy about offering your own opinions.

-CryptoLutheran

Truth?

Or just....opinion?

 

[miknik5]

The difference is that false data in medical sciences have real-world consequences.
People can and will die or hurt as a direct result of it.

But wheter or not you believe that Marry was a virgin or not, makes no difference at all.

Who was talking about Mary?
THE GOSPEL is not about Mary

One changes THE GOSPEL, it is no longer THE GOSPEL

 

[Skreeper]

Truth?

Or just....opinion?

You actually have to demonstrate that something is true before claiming it is.
So far you've only given us your opinion that what you believe is "THE TRUTH".

 

[AV1611VET]

Trying to make sense of a magical world where it contradicts itself is one thing, forcing myself to believe it would definitely push me way over the edge,...its a guarantee I would go all OT and wreak havoc

 

[miknik5]

[

Replace "god" with "allah" or "visjnoe" and "bible" with "quran" or "bagavad ghita".
Then re-read your post and the one you are responding too.

I dare to say that now you are in agreement.
To you the quran and the bagavad ghita are just books written by men.
I bet you don't loose any sleep pondering about different interpretations of hinduism or islam. Right?

In fact, I bet you have never even opened up these books and read a single line it.
That's how little you care about those other religions. Or indeed any religion that isn't the one you happen to buy into.

Consider how mega-irrelavent those scriptures and beliefs are to your life.
Consider how little you have worried about not being able to dine with Odin and Thor in the great halls of Whalhalla.
Consider how little you have worried about being reincarnated as an insect.

Now consider that your religion has the exact same effect on us as all those other religions have on you...

why would I do that?
I know HIS NAME and I know THE TRUTH

When I call out to HIM, HE knows that I am calling out to HIM and not to any other

Where HE brought me, is where I am and I will NEVER go backwards to anyone or anything

 

[Armoured]

[

why would I do that?
I know HIS NAME and I know THE TRUTH

When I call out to HIM, HE knows that I am calling out to HIM and not to any other

Where HE brought me, is where I am and I will NEVER go backwards to anyone or anything

No one's talking about changing the Gospel, or whatever.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Who was talking about Mary?
THE GOSPEL is not about Mary

One changes THE GOSPEL, it is no longer THE GOSPEL

Good job missing (or deliberatly ignoring?) the point being made.

That point being, that it makes no real world difference at all, what your particular personal interpretation of any bible story/verse/claim is.

Not so when it comes to "personal interpretation" of scientific data.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

why would I do that?

To understand the point that's being made.

I know HIS NAME and I know THE TRUTH

Just like muslims and hindu's. Only... they claim a different "NAME" and "TRUTH".
The point exactly.

When I call out to HIM, HE knows that I am calling out to HIM and not to any other
Where HE brought me, is where I am and I will NEVER go backwards to anyone or anything

Irrelevant to the point being made. Do try to keep up.

 

[miknik5]

No one's talking about changing the Gospel, or whatever.

what?
I think you posted off the wrong post

Your response to this post doesn't made sense

 

[miknik5]

Good job missing (or deliberatly ignoring?) the point being made.

That point being, that it makes no real world difference at all, what your particular personal interpretation of any bible story/verse/claim is.

Not so when it comes to "personal interpretation" of scientific data.

Whoever calls on the NAME of THE LORD will be saved

What point are you trying to make?

Why would anyone who knows THE NAME play games with THE NAME?

What would be the point

Those who know HIS NAME will call on THAT NAME and no other

It does matter
And it is the same danger as one falsifying science or medical data

 

[Armoured]

what?
I think you posted off the wrong post

Your response to this post doesn't made sense

Oh, MY post don't make sense.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Whoever calls on the NAME of THE LORD will be saved

What point are you trying to make?

Why would anyone who knows THE NAME play games with THE NAME?

What would be the point

Those who know HIS NAME will call on THAT NAME and no other

It does matter
And it is the same danger as one falsifying science or medical data

I don't remember anyone dieing or getting hurt as a result of having a different opinion on biblical texts.

 

[Skreeper]

Your response to this post doesn't made sense

 

[miknik5]

Oh, MY post don't make sense.

You posted off the wrong post
Yes. Your response to the post does not make sense