I don't know what that is, lol.
Maybe not normally culturally, but biologically it is.
We live in a society that largely at least on the gender critical side argues that everything is pretty much a social construct. If we want to be taken seriously we shouldn't list things like hair length and gender them. While I do not agree with feminists on most things, some aspects are just cultural constructs.
I don't know what that is, lol.
Maybe not normally culturally, but biologically it is.
We live in a society that largely at least on the gender critical side argues that everything is pretty much a social construct. If we want to be taken seriously we shouldn't list things like hair length and gender them. While I do not agree with feminists on most things, some aspects are just cultural constructs.
I don't know what that is, lol.
Maybe not normally culturally, but biologically it is.
We live in a society that largely at least on the gender critical side argues that everything is pretty much a social construct. If we want to be taken seriously we shouldn't list things like hair length and gender them. While I do not agree with feminists on most things, some aspects are just cultural constructs.
Men having long hair was part of the Nazarane vow.
I had long hair very frequently before I was 18.Alright.. seeing as I was a Christian till I was 18 I should probably be ashamed of myself, lol.
Without a differing appearence gender would be a vulgar concept. So gender functions as appearence and anatomy in one. As a functional concept gender is about anatomy and hormones not just appearence.
Men having bangs does look wierd. I had long hair very often from since i was a toddler to at times it looked like i had it 19 and it occasionally got a little long but around the time i turned 18 i barely had it anymore and it was commented that it looked more like a young boy to have long hair.
I thought Samson had long hair was was punished for it by losing his strength when he cut it off?
Short hair and long hair being gendered is more cultural than biological. Plenty of men sport short hair and do not do it to feel "feminine". Especially glorious Viking hair, lol. Men's hair naturally grows long when not cut, I don't see it as a female thing. The color blue being associated with boys and pink for girls is a social construct. Although the need to separate things from male to female probably comes from biological urges.
Men and women do look different, I just want something of more substance. Not whether or not men or women choose to grow their hair out longer.
Men and women wearing shorts and pants and having the same hair color and length and amount of facial hair will have a different face appearence that animals dont have from amongst other animals.
Men and women do look different, I just want something of more substance. Not whether or not men or women choose to grow their hair out longer.
A woman can be a fighter pilot, construction foreman, or truck driver while still celebrating her femininity in the way she looks. A man can be a stay-at-home dad, a nurse, or secretary without sacrificing his masculinity. Androgyny only confuses the issue. It is impossible to truly know and be known when the most basic part of a person, his or her gender, is kept hidden. People who choose the androgynous look may not realize the mixed message they are sending. They may believe they are downplaying gender in an attempt to focus on who they truly believe themselves to be. In reality, they are calling undue attention to gender by provoking the question in the mind of every passer-by: “What is it?”
Different face appearance in what way? You can make an argument that certain fashion is designed to highlight the male or female form.
A woman can be a fighter pilot, construction foreman, or truck driver while still celebrating her femininity in the way she looks. A man can be a stay-at-home dad, a nurse, or secretary without sacrificing his masculinity. Androgyny only confuses the issue. It is impossible to truly know and be known when the most basic part of a person, his or her gender, is kept hidden.
Different face appearance in what way? You can make an argument that certain fashion is designed to highlight the male or female form.
Family Guy mentions that the same behaviors have different causes depending on the gender.Different face appearance in what way? You can make an argument that certain fashion is designed to highlight the male or female form.
Different face appearance in what way? You can make an argument that certain fashion is designed to highlight the male or female form.
Your post about neotonous men agrees with what I said about different face appearance.
So you think peoples masculinity or femininity is just about sperm and eggs? Why wold that be the most basic part of a person or define their masculinity or feminity when angels and satan have masculine titles and wisdom is feminine?
People are gendered with also their names. What do certain sounds have to do with having sperm or eggs? Men and women wearing unisex clothing look like men and women because they have a different face appearence, not just different names. Transgender people and cisgender men and women have distinct looking faces.
Why would fashion highlight the male and female form is males and females dont have distinct looking faces?
So gender identity and words like he and she or man/woman/boy/girl/male/female exist just to simplify things? Everything God does has an order and a purpose or a design and a purpose.
I thought Samson had long hair was was punished for it by losing his strength when he cut it off?
Short hair and long hair being gendered is more cultural than biological. Plenty of men sport short hair and do not do it to feel "feminine". Especially glorious Viking hair, lol. Men's hair naturally grows long when not cut, I don't see it as a female thing. The color blue being associated with boys and pink for girls is a social construct. Although the need to separate things from male to female probably comes from biological urges.
Still not sure what you are talking about.
I wonder if you are talking this sperm and eggs too literally. I was simply stating the biological fact that sperm is cheaper than eggs has a profound impact on gender differences inside and out.
Not sure how fruitful a discussion on angels and demons would be. First I'm an atheist, and I have more of a biological perspective. Fine if you believe in such things, but I cannot see how science can address supernatural things.
Some things are just cultural constructs. You could make a far fetched argument that sounds of words have feminine and masculine tones to them. In my mind femininity is often associated more with roundish things, and the masculine angular. Certain words invoke either. With b sounding words often invoking a "roundish" feeling and k "words invoking" a angular feeling. Then again.. names like "Bill" for men and "Karen" for women are common. Most likely it's all pretty much just cultural.
I never really argue that women do not have distinct faces. Although if you want to be honest, if everyone was gender neutral some men and women would be hard to distinguish. I know east Asian men and women have less sexual dimorphism compared to other races.
I am not sure it has to do with simplifying things. Might just have to do with people feeling good and emotionally maximizing the feminine and masculine. Despite what our current culture often teaches men and women do enjoy feeling masculine and feminine. While the color pink for women is a cultural construct, it still adds value. A woman feeling more feminine wearing pink is still having a real reaction.
Yes, Paul's injunction was cultural even then. He was writing to a Graeco-Roman audience for which short hair for men was the norm. But that was not the norm even back in Palestine...and he knew that.
But as you said, there was a need to separate male from female which was rooted in biology, but the greater intellectual capacity of humans enabled development of cultural gender as well, even though that was manifest in different ways by different cultures. But it cultural gender was always manifest. There has been no human culture in which gender differences were not manifest in some way by the culture.
Teaching methods that derive from false religion is paving the way for one of the biggest deceptions in our world today. This is the lie that God is not only male but female. Some people are even re-writing Bibles and replacing the word ‘he’ (when referring to God)with she. This is an abomination! When God created Adam He created him in His (God’s) image. Genesis 1:25: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness… The reason God created woman from Adam’s rib and did not create her exactly the same way as Adam is so there would be no confusion about God and His masculinity. Man was created in the image of God then woman was formed from man. Woman was formed from man’s rib, but was created to be different in gender. Man is a masculine being, and woman a feminine one. When God finished creating man and woman their gender difference became complete. One gender is not both. Note: I understand there are people who have been born with what appeared to be both male and female organs which were not completely developed (hermaphrodites), however, this was not God’s original plan for them. When God originally created man and woman they were not created with only part of their sexual organs, their organs were completely developed. We live in a sinful world and birth defects are the result of that sin. Not all, but many birth defects are due to things such as: incest in generations past; or even medication and illegal drugs taken during pregnancy. Although some people are born with the appearance of both genders upon further examination doctors areable to determine which gender they really are. Woman was created by God but she was formed from man who is created in God’s image. Woman is created in God’s image but not directly. Though God loves men and women both the same, women were created separately to show God’s image is masculine! Genesis 1:27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; [male] and [female] created he them. God is showing us in this verse that yes He is the creator of both male and female but He did not create them the same way or at the same time. Genesis 2:20-22: And Adam gave names to all cattle and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. Scripture shows a definite distinction between male and female. God is not calling man and woman the same gender he is showing us that He created both and that both are unique in their own way. The above scripture (Genesis 1:27) says that God created man in his own image; then the verse is separate to let us know that he is the creator of both man and woman. They are not one in the same but two different genders. Two different genders are what make a family unit. Together they conceive children. Genesis 1:28: And God blessed them, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth… Something that two people who are the same gender cannot do is conceive a child together. The purpose of the family is to replenish the earth and the only way two people in a homosexual relationship can do this is to depend on others to do it for them. This alone should prove to them that they are out of Godly order and that God will not and does not bless a homosexual relationship, or marriage! God has a plan for our life and a homosexual or bi-sexual lifestyle is not part if His plan! Homosexuality or bi-sexuality is not the Godly Biblical order for mankind and family. The true Godly order for the family begins with God, then man (husband), then woman (wife), and then children. Trying to use same gender relationships to build a family; or trying to place a woman over a man in a family unit, or make a woman equal to a man, goes against everything the family is created to be. Removing the Godly order of a family undermines any Biblical principles that the family is built on. Disturbing the Godly order in a family leads to things such as: rebellion against parents or other authority figures, independence, broken homes, gender confusion, insecurity, shame, etc. See my document on gender confusion. Whenever we remove the Godly order from our family we are inviting trouble. Scripture warns that if we do not obey Godly order then children will rule over us, and will be our oppressors. Sadly, this is already happening today! Isaiah 3:1, 4-5: For, behold, the Lord, the Lord of hosts, doth take away from Jerusalem and from Judah the stay and the staff, the whole stay of bread, and the whole stay of water. And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable. Isaiah 3:11-12: Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him. As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. Women and children are not created to be the leaders of the family – the men are. By removing the Godly order in a family unit we create unnatural (but not necessarily sexual) cords in the family. We create unnatural and unhealthy relationships between family members. Instead of the father and mother joining together they put the children in the other’s place. They talk with their children instead of their spouse. They share things with their children that they are supposed to be sharing with their spouse. This is dangerous because it can lead to their sharing other things. In some cases this can include sexual relations (sexual cords). However, even if it is not a sexual cord there is an unnatural cord between child and parent that will cause division between the parents – and also the child’s marital relationship when he or she becomes an adult. By getting out of Godly order we also create spiritual cords with the evil spirits that promote, and entice, this un-Godly order in the first place! Unnatural cords, in many cases, will lead to gender confusion in a child’s life about the role their gender should have. It may also cause the child to turn to homosexuality as a false sense of security. These are some reasons, among many, why it is so dangerous to go against the Godly order.
The greatest danger of going against Godly order is that people try to bring their un-Godly order into the church; even trying to say that God is a ‘she’! Adding to the already blasphemous portraits of Jesus (many of which already look feminine) we now have artists attempting to portray Jesus as a woman. WHAT AN ABOMINATION! Deuteronomy 4:16 says: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, thesimilitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female. New Living Translation reads: So do not corrupt yourselves by making a physical image in any form – whether of a man or a woman. The Hebrew word for ‘similitude’ in Deuteronomy 4:16 (OKJV) is “tem-oo-naw’; …something portioned (i.e. fashioned) out, as a shape…image, likeness”. The church may not like hearing this, but man’s religious tradition of attempting to portray Jesus in the first place is partly to blame for this abomination!
Still not sure what you are talking about.
I wonder if you are talking this sperm and eggs too literally. I was simply stating the biological fact that sperm is cheaper than eggs has a profound impact on gender differences inside and out.
Not sure how fruitful a discussion on angels and demons would be. First I'm an atheist, and I have more of a biological perspective. Fine if you believe in such things, but I cannot see how science can address supernatural things.
Some things are just cultural constructs. You could make a far fetched argument that sounds of words have feminine and masculine tones to them. In my mind femininity is often associated more with roundish things, and the masculine angular. Certain words invoke either. With b sounding words often invoking a "roundish" feeling and k "words invoking" a angular feeling. Then again.. names like "Bill" for men and "Karen" for women are common. Most likely it's all pretty much just cultural.
I never really argue that women do not have distinct faces. Although if you want to be honest, if everyone was gender neutral some men and women would be hard to distinguish. I know east Asian men and women have less sexual dimorphism compared to other races.
I am not sure it has to do with simplifying things. Might just have to do with people feeling good and emotionally maximizing the feminine and masculine. Despite what our current culture often teaches men and women do enjoy feeling masculine and feminine. While the color pink for women is a cultural construct, it still adds value. A woman feeling more feminine wearing pink is still having a real reaction.
Yes, Paul's injunction was cultural even then. He was writing to a Graeco-Roman audience for which short hair for men was the norm. But that was not the norm even back in Palestine...and he knew that.
But as you said, there was a need to separate male from female which was rooted in biology, but the greater intellectual capacity of humans enabled development of cultural gender as well, even though that was manifest in different ways by different cultures. But it cultural gender was always manifest. There has been no human culture in which gender differences were not manifest in some way by the culture.
Answer: Androgyny is the quality of being neither feminine nor masculine. An androgynous, or unisex, style blurs the lines of gender identity or in some way combines masculine and feminine elements or features. For an individual, a lifestyle, or an article of clothing to be considered androgynous, it must have no discernable gender identity. A truly androgynous person is not readily recognizable as either a boy or a girl—and the confusion is intended.
While many things are neither male nor female (education, employment, automobiles, etc.), personal androgyny is rarely accidental. Many people choose the androgynous look to make a political or moral statement. Females who buzz their hair, bind their breasts, and wear baggy, male clothing are attempting to mask their femininity. Likewise, males who style their hair in traditionally feminine ways, wear frilly, feminine clothing, or apply makeup are attempting to challenge the stereotypical masculine appearance. A great number of people who choose to appear androgynous also struggle with gender identity issues, transsexualism, or homosexuality. But, if a person’s outward appearance is a matter of personal choice, are there moral and spiritual factors to consider? Does the Bible say anything about being androgynous?
God specifically created two distinct genders to serve two distinct roles in His creation (Genesis 1:27). God made Adam in a special act of creation (Genesis 2:7). Then He created a woman, Eve, from Adam’s rib to be a helper for him (Genesis 2:20–22). Adam and Eve had distinctly different physical attributes. They were clearly different because God designed them to be different, and He liked them that way (Genesis 1:31). The man and woman were designed to reproduce so that the earth would be filled with beings who bore the image of God (Genesis 1:28). Only a male and a female coming together can create a new human being, and it takes those physical gender differences to make that happen.
When God gave the Law to Israel, He put prohibitions against the blurring of gender. Deuteronomy 22:5 says, “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.” This does not refer to a woman slipping into a pair of Levi’s to muck the stalls or a man putting on an apron to grill steaks. This verse is referencing a trend on the increase today: the intentional masking of male or female characteristics in an attempt to defy one’s God-given gender.
God’s laws always focus on the heart. He is far more concerned with our motivations and heart attitudes than the result of our actions. People who intentionally reject the gender He gave them are rejecting Him and His design. In essence, a woman who dresses to appear androgynous is saying to God, “You made a mistake.” A man who cross-dresses or wears ambiguous clothing is saying to God, “You can’t meet my needs. You don’t know what you’re doing.” Both are ways of defying God’s right to be Lord over our lives. To reject one’s own gender or to hide it is one of the most blasphemous ways we can reject God’s right to rule over us. If He can’t even get our gender right, then how can He get anything else right?
Some may argue that by appearing androgynous they are not rejecting their gender, only the social stereotypes associated with that gender. However, that argument is too weak to stand, since there are dozens of alternate ways to debunk stereotypes while still celebrating the characteristics that make males and females unique. Women need not conform to frilly-silly, sexy, or revealing styles simply because culture has portrayed femininity that way. And men are right to resist the macho, emotionless Marlboro Man mold forced upon them by peers. But masculinity and femininity are embedded far more deeply into our souls than what is reflected externally. Gender is at the root of who we are as individuals. It is the starting place from which we begin our journey toward becoming all God intends us to be (Romans 8:29).
A woman can be a fighter pilot, construction foreman, or truck driver while still celebrating her femininity in the way she looks. A man can be a stay-at-home dad, a nurse, or secretary without sacrificing his masculinity. Androgyny only confuses the issue. It is impossible to truly know and be known when the most basic part of a person, his or her gender, is kept hidden. People who choose the androgynous look may not realize the mixed message they are sending. They may believe they are downplaying gender in an attempt to focus on who they truly believe themselves to be. In reality, they are calling undue attention to gender by provoking the question in the mind of every passer-by: “What is it?”
Pop culture is going gender-insane, throwing common sense and reality out the window in its attempt to be “edgy” and “progressive.” Androgyny is now celebrated, and gender-reality is looked upon with disdain, but celebrating something doesn’t make it right, and despising something doesn’t make it wrong. Slavery was once celebrated; that didn’t make it right. Child labor is acceptable in many parts of the world; that doesn’t make it right. Prostitution and child trafficking are rampant in many countries; that doesn’t make them right. And, even though gender-confusion, transgenderism, and androgyny are riding a wave of popularity today, that doesn’t make them right.
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