Question for evolutionists

[jamie4418]

What the Bible says and what you seem to be implying are two different things. I'd prefer to focus on our responsibility for being the stewards for the Earth, now the power trip of trying to "dominate" anything.

Just to add another reply. We humans don't dominate the earth just because we try hard to do it. We dominate the earth simply by existing and living. Some examples would be: cutting down forests, taking over land for homes, farming, building cities, building roads, etc. These acts aren't meant to dominate anything. People are simply living, and just by doing that, they dominate the earth over other animals.

 

[jamie4418]

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[jamie4418]

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[ranmaonehalf]

I'm talking about atheistic evolution.

you should change the title of your thread or be more specific next time....

 

[USincognito]

Your scenario of a man with those primitive weapons simply doesn't exist. You cannot separate man from his technology. Even if you did, man can develop technology easily.

Here it is for the third time. Please read it this time.

Tell you what, put on a wetsuit,grab a speargun and a knife, fire up a flourescent chemstick and jump into the ocean when it's feeding time for Humbolt squid.

Guinea worm doesn't apply because I'm speaking about animals. There are many viruses or organisms man cannot conquer.

You don't consider worms animals? No wonder you're having such a hard time with all this as you're not even using words the same as everyone else is. You might want to start out with some more basic questions like "what is an animal" and "what is evolution" than some of the more esoteric ones you've been asking.

 

[jamie4418]

You don't consider worms animals? No wonder you're having such a hard time with all this as you're not even using words the same as everyone else is. You might want to start out with some more basic questions like "what is an animal" and "what is evolution" than some of the more esoteric ones you've been asking.

Guinea worm is an infection and a disease. Please read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis

 

[USincognito]

Just to add another reply. We humans don't dominate the earth just because we try hard to do it. We dominate the earth simply by existing and living. Some examples would be: cutting down forests, taking over land for homes, farming, building cities, building roads, etc. These acts aren't meant to dominate anything. People are simply living, and just by doing that, they dominate the earth over other animals.

O.k. Now I know you're not using the same English vocabulary as everyone else is. Cutting down forests, farming and building cities and roads are very time consuming and require a lot of effort. A lot more effort than hunting and gathering does. Only on bizarroworld would such activities not require us "trying hard" in order to make them happen.

 

[jamie4418]

Originally Posted by me... again
Tell you what, put on a wetsuit,grab a speargun and a knife, fire up a flourescent chemstick and jump into the ocean when it's feeding time for Humbolt squid.

The thing about humans is that we are rarely dumb enough to hunt animals on their terms. Physically, in many cases, animals can and will defeat us. Humans are smart enough to know to hunt animals on favorable, not dangerous conditions.

 

[USincognito]

Guinea worm is an infection and a disease. Please read.

Thanks, I know what Guinea worm is without looking it up. It's a disease caused by a worm. Just like dysentery is caused by amoebas. Both amoebas and worms are animals. If you're using animal with some different definition could you do it. Jellyfish can be described as little more than organized seawater, but they're actually animals so we need to establish was you consider an animal to be.

 

[Tenka]

Guinea worm is an infection and a disease. Please read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis

Caused by a parasitic worm.

 

[ranmaonehalf]

But the scenario you evolutionists suggest (putting a single, naked person with nothing into a jungle) simply doesn't happen.
it happens all the time. especially in the wild.

Even if it were to happen, that person (s) would be able to develop technology over time. to bad the lions and bears arent going to wait for you to build a gun..
But even with the most primitive weapons, it can impose its will on whatever animal it comes into contact with.

ok so i will give you a tree branch and lets watch you dominate a lion. or an elephant. you know 1 on 1 even odds...

for some reason i dont see you dominating as much as you think you can.

 

[jamie4418]

We dominate animals right now with what we have.

 

[Tenka]

Jamie your thread is going nowhere, what do you want?

It seems you are trying to get a specific group of people who accept a particular scientific consensus to agree that we have 'dominion' in a certain sense of the word over a small group of living organisms.
Whats the point?

 

[jamie4418]

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[ranmaonehalf]

I never said right and wrong were related to evolution.

But since most of the evolutionists on this thread are atheists, I am inquiring about their feelings, as evolutionists on right and wrong.

as i have stated before you seem to imply that.

I have my own beliefs in right and wwrong and i am sure they are different from yours.

Also since you are now adding atheism to the mix you really should state why. If all you are interested in is studying atheists that are evolutionsist then you should state all this at the very begging so we can help yyou better understand.

 

[jamie4418]

Jamie your thread is going nowhere, what do you want?

It seems you are trying to get a specific group of people who accept a particular scientific consensus to agree that we have 'dominion' in a certain sense of the word over a small group of living organisms.
Whats the point?

I'm simply trying to prove that humans dominate the earth.

A small group of living organisms? I would say countless living organisms.

 

[jamie4418]

Also since you are now adding atheism to the mix you really should state why. If all you are interested in is studying atheists that are evolutionsist then you should state all this at the very begging so we can help yyou better understand.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I have changed my question on the first page.

My questions are for athetistic evolutionists.

 

[ranmaonehalf]

I am also assuming, for the sake of arguement, that most evolutionists are atheists.

as stated by christians, most evos are christian.

 

[jamie4418]

as stated by christians, most evos are christian.

But most of the evos here are atheist.

 

[Tenka]

I'm simply trying to prove that humans dominate the earth.

This doesn't make us more evolved. Were it true.

A small group of living organisms? I would say countless living organisms.

Yes countless,but still only a small percentage of living organisms. You even tried to exclude nematodes (reclassifying the guinea worm as a virus).