Question About Dreams and Visions

[Hidden In Him]

I’ll answer to you later! Im babysitting and the baby just got up!

Doki oki.

 

[Job3315]

Oopsie! I meant Sister, LoL.

No problem!

I'm glad you mentioned discipline. I've had running debates with members here over the question of does the Spirit of God only encourage, and I don't take that view

No, I’ve encountered many occasions when the Soirit disciplines me, through dreams but also through people. He is a Father, friend, teacher...

Ok, now this is an interesting thought... but a little... unnerving to me. I don't want to discourage you here, but wouldn't you want to hear from Him rather than your own soul? But I don't want to sound judgmental, it's just that my own soul could deceive me in matters (Jeremiah 17:9).

I am still learning about the soul, but I really think the soul is more important than what people think.

Did you know God has a soul?
And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you.”... Leviticus 26:11

He created our soul and He loves our soul. I really think the ultimate goal is to get the soul to be as honest as possible, to be vulnerable and open with God. My soul used to be afraid of God and I noticed she was always hiding and prepared to defend herself. I don’t think God minds at all that we get tempted, I think He wants us to go to Him when that happens. Meaning, Adam and Eve sinned, but can you imagine how different would’ve been if Eve would’ve gone to God and said something like “I really wanted to eat from the tree, I need help”. I hear people submit, force and neglect their soul their whole lives, but I learned that God loves my soul, why shouldn't I? I’ve found peace by being open and vulnerable with God, that way I dont hide, and the Holy Spirit teaches me to find out what the soul needs. Actually, one of my favorite Bible verses is Genesis 4:7: If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it." God is talking to Cains soul right there. Which means, He teaches our soul to overcome.

This doesn't mean my soul doesnt try to deceive me, but I got to know myself and my limitations. Everyone struggles with a strongest sin, I just know where not to go/wonder.

There is a great book called Soul Keeping by John Ortberg. He states that the soul (mind, will and emotions) is what lives forever. It’s very interesting and it made me think how bad I was to my soul.

We may have to start a conversation. You sound like you have some experience in the realm of dreams and visions.

Btw, about your theory of them always being dark when they are not of God, I would assent that this could be something specific to you. I don't experience that distinction myself, but that doesn't mean you necessarily wouldn't.

I am still learning, I just have a lot of dreams to be able to have a baseline and notice differences and similarities.

I really don't think the devil can give dreams with light, at least those he is in it. Those spiritual dreams where there are agents are different because just like in the world, the sun shines on both the wicked and the just.

Yes. Such is the pain of operating in prophetic gifts.

Had to learn to have grace; love the person, hate the sin. I don't like warning dreams, many people dislike me thinking it was me when I am just a messenger.

Ok, we'd have to discuss this one. I have encountered numerous times when he uses one person to represent someone else entirely, and the one in the dream is a nonbeliever representing a believer.

I might need an example here.

I'll look her up, certainly. Now that's in keeping with the fact that I trust my own leadings before even considering anyone else's opinions. Sounds terrible, but nobody taught me a thing about interpretation. I've learned it all myself through experience and what the Spirit showed me. In fact, because of this there are a number of things - commonly held assumptions - I see being taught that I don't buy into. But that doesn't mean I don't recognize a few who are authoritative out there.

Is there anyone on Youtube you consider good?

At some point I admitted I needed help and accepted my interpretation and perspective can be wrong. Some are obvious and I don't need help on those, just like I already don't need help 4+4 is 8, but I always keep in mind I am growing. I became obsessed and tried to hold on to the dreams but then I crashed = / Its been a process to trust others and be humble when receiving a different opinion. But, I also keep in mind others might be wrong as well.

I really like Kris Valloton, Bill Johnson and Jennifer Eivaz. Jennifer is a bit hyper for me, but she has a lot of good insights. Bethel Church from Redding, CA has an amazing prophetic anointing. Their worship team is our of this world. Bill is a great Pastor, Kris is...he has been a pillar in my walk with the Lord. I’ve cried many times with his testimonies. Also there are some classes on you tube called Foundations of Freedom by Bob Hamp. He also offers free classes on tuesdays on his FB page called Think Differently, I think they are on YouTube as well. In one of my dreams I called him “Wisdom Walking on Earth” so I definitely recommend him!

Thanks! I appreciate it. I'm enjoying this, actually. I have been wondering when I might meet someone with some genuine experience in this area, so I'd be delighted to make friends and exchange notes.

Keep in mind, however, that I can be a tough act to follow occasionally, LoL (just poking a little fun there)

Same here! Im looking forward on exchanging theories, notes, input and questions!

 

[Hidden In Him]

Did you know God has a soul?
And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you.”... Leviticus 26:11

Interesting insight. And only logical. If the soul is the mind, will and emotions, no one would be caught dead saying God has no mind, LoL.

I am still learning about the soul, but I really think the soul is more important than what people think.

Agreed. I fully believe we should tell our soul (as a type of self-determination) to obey God. I just don't know if I want to hear from him in my dreams. I wanna hear him say, "Yes, sir! Shutting up and obeying God. Without question, Sir!"

He created our soul and He loves our soul. I really think the ultimate goal is to get the soul to be as honest as possible, to be vulnerable and open with God.

Absolutely. Until people are honest with themselves, they will likely not be honest with God either.

My soul used to be afraid of God and I noticed she was always hiding and prepared to defend herself. I don’t think God minds at all that we get tempted, I think He wants us to go to Him when that happens.

Again, absolutely.

I’ve found peace by being open and vulnerable with God, that way I dont hide, and the Holy Spirit teaches me to find out what the soul needs.

This is excellent.

There is a great book called Soul Keeping by John Ortberg. He states that the soul (mind, will and emotions) is what lives forever. It’s very interesting and it made me think how bad I was to my soul.

Most don't even truly know their soul, because their either too busy running from it due to fears of what everyone else will think, or because they are too caught up with earthly responsibilities to be in touch with themselves, or because they are so badly effected by their environment that they can even search themselves.

Had to learn to have grace; love the person, hate the sin. I don't like warning dreams, many people dislike me thinking it was me when I am just a messenger.

I've been completely rejected by those I loved and spent a great deal of time doing my best to serve... but in the end you just have to, as you say, "search your own soul," and know you meant know harm.

I might need an example here.

Too personal, LoL.

At some point I admitted I needed help and accepted my interpretation and perspective can be wrong. Some are obvious and I don't need help on those, just like I already don't need help 4+4 is 8, but I always keep in mind I am growing. I became obsessed and tried to hold on to the dreams but then I crashed = / Its been a process to trust others and be humble when receiving a different opinion. But, I also keep in mind others might be wrong as well.

Oh, regarding interpretations, certainly. I meant teachings on how to do so often come off as lacking and unauthoritative to me. But actual interpretations, yes. A different perspective has a way of sharpening you.

I really like Kris Valloton, Bill Johnson and Jennifer Eivaz. Jennifer is a bit hyper for me, but she has a lot of good insights.... Bob Hamp.

Ok, maybe I'll look into these four. I've watched several, and Barbie Breathitt was about the only one who got my attention as really speaking from a lot of genuine experience. She mentioned some things I didn't fully buy, however, so it was a bit of a mixed bag.

Looking forward to talking to you as well.

 

[JAM2b]

Dreams are customized to the individual because they need to be presented in a way that the person having them can understand the message behind them.

I have had dreams that were dark, at night or dusk, or in a dark place, and they were not demonic but a revelation of my current mental or spiritual state. Truth, whether it is dark or not, is still truth. They were beneficial to me because it allowed me to deal with some things that my subconscious was withholding from my conscious mind.