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Featured Question about academic integrity

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by flipflop2234, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. flipflop2234

    flipflop2234 New Member

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    Hello, this is my first post on this forum so please forgive me if I format poorly. I truly don't know what to do here. To give you context, I am 18 and about to finish highschool. I have cheated plenty of times in the past whether it be a copied assignment here or a formula that was punched in my calculator before a quiz. Upon coming back to my faith (3-4 months ago) I haven't cheated much at all but I can't help feeling overwhelming guilt over cheating as if my diploma I will soon be handed has been tainted. I feel that if I accept this diploma and move onto college I will lie to everyone. I will lie to my highschool that I earned my grades. I will lie to my college that I earned my highschool graduation, and I will lie to my future employer that I was rightfully admitted into college. Seems like the only option is to drop out?? It seems too extreme but at the same time could be what I am called to do. I saw a similar post about this topic about a fellow who was feeling bad about cheating in college and someone responded with
    You are committing willful sin, cheating, lying, stealing, having someone else lie for you and worst of all, praying to God, you are not a doctor or a heart specialist. You should stand up, and you did not earn your degree. You are well aware of it, and you want the Christians to feel sorry for you and sing Kumbaya, you need to not graduate. It is a lie. You have continued in this sin, from high school. I do not feel your sorrow. I hear your excuses and you wanting to get validated, to ease your conscience. When you go for a job interview, the lies will continue. Where does it end. True Repentance, is not only confession of sin, but restoration of the stolen property. In this case, your diploma is a lie and your spouse to be, your parents and yourself is still being manipulated. Just recently, we have had cases, where people have done the same exact thing, and 30 years later, other people have suffered for this seemingly simple, manipulation. I pray for you. it is not the end of the world. But you need to do the right thing. Your mind would be freed, by not accepting that paper. God is present in all these actions, and Christ is being shamed. Free yourself, by speaking the truth. Your whole life will be made much better, and you will have a testimony, for other kids. Be a radical for Christ. The fact that the Holy Spirit is convicting you and you did not remedy the situation, is the reason for your guilty conscience and lack lustre feeling. A Christian always acts on Conviction from the Holy Spirit, or else he will not continue to dwell in a willfull sinning and not repenting fully. Then you would be left up to the error of you ways and the consequences of your actions. What does it profit one, to gain the whole world and their soul is not right with Almighty God. One lie continues from High School then college. I hope you see the pattern here. It is not too late to make things right. Your choice."


    This seems very harsh but I was wondering if it holds truth or not. At first I was sure I had to drop out but I'm sure I was dishonest at times in middle school, by this logic I would have to deny the dact that I was educated up to 8th grade! My parents and peers would be very surprised and upset with me if I gave it all up and even my christian brother who I have confided in says to just keep going and that I have been made clean by the blood of Jesus and not cheat again. I am at a loss guys. Please help a fellow christian brother for I have already cried out to Jesus and prayer and asked for forgiveness and guidance and now I call to all of you
     
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  2. RaymondG

    RaymondG Well-Known Member

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    You don't have to drop out, You can always start back over again from kindergarten and do it right this time. Maybe you'll get skipped a few grades and graduate valedictorian.

    I don't think God is thinking about what you did in school. Only what you do for Christ will last.
     
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  3. flipflop2234

    flipflop2234 New Member

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    Dude it is legit making my ocd ridden head ache and a stupid amount of tears to fall. Thanks for the reply
     
  4. Deadworm

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    Here is a simple but powerful image of the meaning of Jesus' cross. The cross means that God buries your sin in the sea of His forgetfulness and puts up a sign that says, "No fishing!" When you wallow in guilt like his, you are fishing in a No Fishing zone and disrespecting God's grace!!! Unlike sins of personal offense, your sin has not offended others. In any case, we can't undo all our mistakes. So forget that ghastly judgmental post, study hard, get your diploma, and be an honest college student.

    Here's another illustrate I'm fond of. A woman told her priest she has visions in which Jesus speaks to her. The skeptical priest issued her this challenge: "The next time you talk to Jesus, ask Him what sins I recently confessed to Him." The woman agreed to do so. A week later, the priest saw her again and asked her, "Well, did you have another vision of Jesus?" "Yes." "And did you ask Him what sins I recently confessed to Him?" "Yes." Now the priest knew he could expose her; so he asked, "And what did Jesus say?" The woman replied, "Jesus said He couldn't remember."

    Different image to express the same point as my fishing analogy.
     
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  5. nChrist

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    Pray for forgiveness, don't cheat again, and continue with your life.
     
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  6. crossnote

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    Dropping out would be cheating yourself.
    Go to the school dean's office and confess your story and give it into God's hands.
     
  7. Kit Sigmon

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    Read chapter 4 of Ephesians and do what it instructs.

     
  8. flipflop2234

    flipflop2234 New Member

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    I'm not in college, only highschool. They wouldn't care if I told them I cheated in the past because its just a public highschool. Should I still?
     
  9. Kit Sigmon

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    Public school is still school, it isn't of lesser importance... the Lord desires His children to be young ladies and young men who will honor Him...he don't want us setting bad examples whether we be in public school, college, at work, around our friends...we are to have integrity.
    Stop cheating/ stealing/being deceptive-- repent of that and study for tests.

    If you need help, then ask about getting someone to tutor you in the courses that are problematic... also seek someone to mentor you spiritually.

    The cycle of cheating/ stealing/being deceptive needs to be
    nipped in the bud asap!
    Right now is a great time to start, please don't delay, cause this
    will habit of cheating/being deceptive will cause you to stumble.
     
  10. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  11. flipflop2234

    flipflop2234 New Member

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    Wouldn't have changed much at all
     
  12. Near

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    Woah... Just don't do it again. It's wrong.
    Dropping out would be a waste of time. If you didn't really learn the subjects, then you're at a loss there, so you have got to do lots of review. If anyone asks you in real life whether or not you've cheated. Plead the 5th.
    Leave that stuff in the past. No one, probably, is going to hunt you down for it. A warning though, cheating in college is worse than murder in the eyes of the academic establishments. If you're caught, you will be burned badly. Going to college is really a business decision. If you go to college, don't cheat...just study, otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure in the long run. Imagine me getting a math degree without even knowing what a limit in Calculus is...
     
  13. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  14. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  15. flipflop2234

    flipflop2234 New Member

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    I don't know how much it would have changed my ap psych grade though. I used a "test bank" which is basically a collection of alot questions by the publisher in which like a fraction of then will be on the test. So if you studied the whole test bank you would have seen all of the questions
     
  16. flipflop2234

    flipflop2234 New Member

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    So what is your point
     
  17. flipflop2234

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    Every other class was mostly just small stuff such as a copied worksheet or a glance at someone's paper. Psychology was different though because I found a test bank online. Basically a test bank is a collection of about 150 questions and 50 of them will be on the actual test. This is a real grey area but I did have an unfair advantage over others. Should I just go tell my psychology teacher what happened?
     
  18. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  19. flipflop2234

    flipflop2234 New Member

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    All the cheating I did was negligible except for in AP Psychology. I had a test Bank that some of my friends found online. The test Bank is comprised of 150 questions per test Chapter and 50 of them will be in the actual test. This is a very grey area and I really don't know if it's cheating. There's no way to tell if I would have gotten a better grade in the past but the AP test to decide if I get college credit for the class is coming up. An AP test is similar to the act or the sat. It was definitely an unfair advantage that had over people and made the class very easy.
     
  20. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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