• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Status
Not open for further replies.

The Liturgist

Traditional Liturgical Christian
Site Supporter
Nov 26, 2019
15,639
8,247
50
The Wild West
✟765,166.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Generic Orthodox Christian
Marital Status
Celibate

You may say you are delusional


You can’t speak for others

I am not accusing you or any specific person of being delusional. I am saying that as a Christian theological principle, we can say that as a result of our fallen nature, the divine image in us becomes tarnished, and consequently we are mortal, and vulnerable to illnesses, which can include neurological and psychogenic hallucinations and delusional thinking of a psychological origin, as well as spiritual and demonic delusions.
 
Upvote 0

The Liturgist

Traditional Liturgical Christian
Site Supporter
Nov 26, 2019
15,639
8,247
50
The Wild West
✟765,166.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Generic Orthodox Christian
Marital Status
Celibate
I like this! People don't realize the depth of the influence any sin has on themselves and on others. Thank you!

I don't expect that you mean to say that there are not other causes also, for those effects, however.

Well I suppose that would depend on the proposed cause and the specific effect. I have to confess I am not personally convinced in the existence of the Mandela Effect in large measure because I have not experienced any of the strange senses of displacement therein and on those occasions when my memory has proven faulty, the cause has been self-evident.

Quantum immortality itself is unverifiable and highly controversial in the world of quantum mechanics. There is a hypothesis however that if you performed the Schrodinger’s Cat experiment on yourself you would invariably not die, but thus far no one has volunteered to test that hypothesis. I myself think that, since it seems to lead to the most productive results, we should concern ourselves mainly with the Copenhagen Interpretation for the time being, since at present we lack any means of validating an interpretation.
 
Upvote 0

Mark Quayle

Monergist; and by reputation, Reformed Calvinist
Site Supporter
May 28, 2018
14,282
6,366
69
Pennsylvania
✟948,821.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Reformed
Marital Status
Widowed
Well I suppose that would depend on the proposed cause and the specific effect. I have to confess I am not personally convinced in the existence of the Mandela Effect in large measure because I have not experienced any of the strange senses of displacement therein and on those occasions when my memory has proven faulty, the cause has been self-evident.

Quantum immortality itself is unverifiable and highly controversial in the world of quantum mechanics. There is a hypothesis however that if you performed the Schrodinger’s Cat experiment on yourself you would invariably not die, but thus far no one has volunteered to test that hypothesis. I myself think that, since it seems to lead to the most productive results, we should concern ourselves mainly with the Copenhagen Interpretation for the time being, since at present we lack any means of validating an interpretation.
I suppose I should say the whole business is beyond me. The blending of physical science and philosophical speculations to me smacks of self-deception, double-think, excuse and the attempted normalization of the notion that science alone explains (or should/could explain) everything we don't currently quite understand. But I don't even know enough to say that, so... oh well. I just don't get it.

There are many instances in my life where the Deja Vu experience, or related-feeling things happen, usually the idea of, "I dreamed (or remember, or such) about this!" as I watch a situation unfold, though unable to predict the next item in a sequence, as it unfolds I recognize it as if I had actually seen it before. But why I actually experience this is so out of my control that the speculations, to me, should honestly only be assessed with a "who knows", and none of this mixed bag of chance (with the more mathematically rigorous sound of "probability") with "all possibles are fact" as if there truly is more than one thing that always happens, with clean scientific logic.

At present, to me, this sounds like just another attempt to make the unfalsifiable sound scientifically defined, with no regard for and no responsibility toward Deity. I hope I am wrong.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: The Liturgist
Upvote 0

Bungle_Bear

Whoot!
Mar 6, 2011
9,084
3,513
✟262,040.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Married

Good because we’re not delusional


South America has moved east
Lol. The South American plate is moving west, away from the mid-Atlantic Ridge but reality must be wrong because you "remember" it moving east.

With such a sensible argument I'm convinced.
 
Upvote 0

The Liturgist

Traditional Liturgical Christian
Site Supporter
Nov 26, 2019
15,639
8,247
50
The Wild West
✟765,166.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Generic Orthodox Christian
Marital Status
Celibate

Good because we’re not delusional


South America has moved east

Not during my lifetime it hasn’t. And I remember the celebrations surrounding the end of Apartheid when Nelson Mandela and F.W. de Klerk shared the Nobel Peace Prize.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.