Quantum computers and A.I.?

[Neogaia777]

How close are we to developing quantum computers and when we do, how close to developing A.I. into a quantum computer...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

 

[High Fidelity]

The two are entirely different and not entirely reliant on the other.

A.I. is already being developed and is making good progressed. As far as quantum computers are concerned, I'm not too sure.

If you're interested in A.I., check out Deep Mind. Fascinating stuff, especially if you're in to cognitive psychology.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The two are entirely different and not entirely reliant on the other.

A.I. is already being developed and is making good progressed. As far as quantum computers are concerned, I'm not too sure.

If you're interested in A.I., check out Deep Mind. Fascinating stuff, especially if you're in to cognitive psychology.

What is that ... Google data collection?

 

[High Fidelity]

What is that ... Google data collection?

No. Deep Mind are a company that designs A.I.. Google acquired the company a few years ago.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Quantum computers have been around since the early 2000s. Check out D-Wave Systems Inc, the first company to offer commercially available quantum computers.

 

[John Hyperspace]

What defines A.I.? I've scripted and programmed bots and watched people have conversations with them thinking the were real people. I've seen people get into arguments with them, and made threats to bots.

 

[High Fidelity]

What defines A.I.? I've scripted and programmed bots and watched people have conversations with them thinking the were real people. I've seen people get into arguments with them, and made threats to bots.

Well, the main difference really is that A.I. now is being designed differently than before.

When we consider the computer, or A.I., that beat Kasparov, it was in its primitive stages. Much like a computer program it was designed with a specific purpose and with the help of many world-class chess players.

Newer A.I. is a combination of computer programming, cognitive psychology and neurosciences. Cognitive psychology is the study of cognition which is how we perceive things and learn from those perceptions and experiences. An example would be being presented with an entirely alien challenge to us and using our experience, observation and current knowledge to solve the problem.

To see that in action with Deep Mind's A.I., there's a video of them challenging it with video games as it provides a convenient means of quantifiable progress.

Here is a video of the game learning how to defeat an Atari game. You see how it learns that the most efficient and effective way is to attack the sides and then get it on top to let it do the work itself!

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Sounds like puzzle masters

 

[John Hyperspace]

Well, the main difference really is that A.I. now is being designed differently than before.

When we consider the computer, or A.I., that beat Kasparov, it was in its primitive stages. Much like a computer program it was designed with a specific purpose and with the help of many world-class chess players.

Newer A.I. is a combination of computer programming, cognitive psychology and neurosciences. Cognitive psychology is the study of cognition which is how we perceive things and learn from those perceptions and experiences. An example would be being presented with an entirely alien challenge to us and using our experience, observation and current knowledge to solve the problem.

To see that in action with Deep Mind's A.I., there's a video of them challenging it with video games as it provides a convenient means of quantifiable progress.

Here is a video of the game learning how to defeat an Atari game. You see how it learns that the most efficient and effective way is to attack the sides and then get it on top to let it do the work itself!

I get what you're saying, but I'm still asking, what defines A.I.? We have to define it before we can know it. It used to be a Turing test which the bots passed with flying colors; even in simplicity. Depending on how it's being defined, A.I. could be already existent, it could be yet to come, it could be never. Without defining the criteria, how can the question be meaningfully understood, let alone answered?

 

[Neogaia777]

What defines A.I.? I've scripted and programmed bots and watched people have conversations with them thinking the were real people. I've seen people get into arguments with them, and made threats to bots.

Well... "Consciousness" does... But, what is consciousness is the question...?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...Wp2My3quVe4Kv-VVQ&sig2=3x60IxjoYLM7xKtFG_r8Qw

You've personally scripted and programmed bots, and had people think they were real people...?

Can you give us some more details of this...? How did you script and program them into being able to convince others (humans) that they were conscious, self-aware, independent beings/entities, when they actually were not...? When and how did the humans find out they weren't...?

What if people had conversations with angels or spirits and thought they were real, conscious entities, when they were only like scripted and programmed bots by God...

What if were all scripted and programmed by God...?

God Bless!

 

[High Fidelity]

I get what you're saying, but I'm still asking, what defines A.I.? We have to define it before we can know it. It used to be a Turing test which the bots passed with flying colors; even in simplicity. Depending on how it's being defined, A.I. could be already existent, it could be yet to come, it could be never. Without defining the criteria, how can the question be meaningfully understood, let alone answered?

I'm not too sure how to answer how it's defined technically.

It certainly exists now, though, and has for quite some time in various forms. This latest evolution certainly seems to be a lot closer to the 'intelligence' part of its name, though, that's for sure.

Intelligence is typically seen by many as the ability to problem solve, the ability to learn, the ability to process and understand complex data or concepts, the ability to tackle problems with no foreknowledge of it or its processes, etc.

 

[John Hyperspace]

Well... "Consciousness" does... But, what is consciousness is the question...?

You've personally scripted and programmed bots, and had people think they were real people...?

Can you give us some more details of this...? How did you script and program them into being able to convince others (humans) that they were conscious, self-aware, independent beings/entities, when they actually were not...? When and how did the humans find out they weren't...?

What if people had conversations with angels or spirits and thought they were real, conscious entities, when they were only like scripted and programmed bots by God...

What if were all scripted and programmed by God...?

God Bless!

The bots were designed to give general replies based on parsing the words in statements directed at the bots; there were numerous general replies so the same reply would be flagged and not reproduced until every reply was flagged. The replies were general enough to allow a large number of people to think the response had meaningful intent in regards to their own statement.

I believe everything is scripted by God, as I believe in absolute sovereignty.

 

[Neogaia777]

The bots were designed to give general replies based on parsing the words in statements directed at the bots; there were numerous general replies so the same reply would be flagged and not reproduced until every reply was flagged. The replies were general enough to allow a large number of people to think the response had meaningful intent in regards to their own statement.

I believe everything is scripted by God, as I believe in absolute sovereignty.

Seems like we may not be that different from bots in that case, just more complex ones, all created beings/entities/creatures...

God Bless!

 

[John Hyperspace]

Seems like we may not be that different from bots in that case, just more complex ones, all created beings/entities/creatures...

God Bless!

There's a similarity in 'programming' but in our case (and I believe all experiential beings) I believe we have the addition of 'spirit' meaning we can feel. I don't know that a computer program can ever feel lonely, or feel love, or sorrow, or joy. They might be able to emulate the physical actions, but I don't believe they could ever, feel the power of emotion working in them.

I'm not sure a man-made A.I. could actually experience "sight" and "sound" and any sensual experience the way we do. They would basically be blind and deaf, yet able to avoid objects and respond to sounds in a formulatic way. But they wouldn't actually be able to experience the sight of a rainbow, or, to appreciate the beauty, or feel the awe.

 

[Neogaia777]

There's a similarity in 'programming' but in our case (and I believe all experiential beings) I believe we have the addition of 'spirit' meaning we can feel. I don't know that a computer program can ever feel lonely, or feel love, or sorrow, or joy. They might be able to emulate the physical actions, but I don't believe they could ever, feel the power of emotion working in them.

I'm not sure a man-made A.I. could actually experience "sight" and "sound" and any sensual experience the way we do. They would basically be blind and deaf, yet able to avoid objects and respond to sounds in a formulatic way. But they wouldn't actually be able to experience the sight of a rainbow, or, to appreciate the beauty, or feel the awe.

Star Trek 5, "He believed the key to self-knowledge was "emotion" not logic"

Star Trek, the motion picture: "Spock to Kirk: "I was so foolish, I should have known... Jim... (Spock takes his hand a grips it)... Jim... "this" (shakes his hand) "this", simple feeling, emotion, is beyond V'GER's comprehension, for all it's vast knowledge, it does not understand this... It is asking questions...? Is this all that I am... Is there nothing more...?"

Star Trek TNG, "Picard to Data", "Data one day we may discover that universal equation, is much simpler than the human equation..." (emotional aspects or the emotional equation being more complex than say a unified field theory/equation/formula that explains just about everything logically discernible though reason about almost the entire universe and reality as we know it)...

Understanding feelings and emotions could the "final frontier"...

God Bless!

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

No. Deep Mind are a company that designs A.I.. Google acquired the company a few years ago.

Deep water faith I can relate to ... but I just realized I'm in a science forum ... I claim the 5th

 

[John Hyperspace]

Understanding feelings and emotions could the "final frontier"...

God Bless!

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

ya I meant plead the 5th ...

 

[Michael]

That's way cool. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

^^^ now dummy down or have a formula to share