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Prove to me God exists

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I can understand why it's so hard for many people to believe in Jesus Christ and God without any proof. Even if I can convince anyone that God worked through Elijah and that the false prophets of Baal were shown to be frauds in front of the people the question still remains... Why does God not offer similar proof today?
I find it interesting that this is the one thing that people insist needs to be proven over, and over, and over, in different ways and with new evidence. No one requires that of anything else. If something's proven, then it's proven.

But as it happens, he does provide proof of it. There are miracles happening in every age. The Catholic Church requires one before someone is beatified, and two before he is declared a Saint. The problem is not a lack of evidence, the problem is that people don't bother to look for it.
 
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I do not think it is simple .

Miracles should point to His existence , but even Jesus could not convince everyone with miracles.
The complexities of creation should prove it but again it depends on how you see it .

Even if God stood in front of someone , they could say it was a demon or some other spiritual being.

Believing is by faith, all I can do is tell them what I have experienced.
Pray for them and let the Holy Spirit do the work.

The Bible is very complex, if you could show all the prophecies that have come to pass, the coding throughout the Bible, the historical facts, the way it talks to you, the way the story unfolds, and how it could not be written by one mortal person.
But then again someone who was not ready to believe would not get it anyway.

All we could do is keep trying and praying.
 
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Hey everyone!

I am new to this forum but after reading several threads I am shocked at how many members have very extreme views and will shoot anyone down that does not agree with them (just read a very weird thread on aliens) regardless of whether they can support their views based on the Bible.

And, even then, many members will use the Bible to support their opposing views and beliefs, often by taking texts completely out of context or by really stretching the interpretation of some verses.

I am curious... How would you handle the following situation...

Let's assume my neighbor does not believe in Jesus Christ or God and one day over a cup of coffee he says the following:

"I don't believe in God. Prove to me that God exists."

and

"I don't believe the Bible is relevant anymore. It was written a long time ago, translated and there are I don't know how many different interpretations among many different denominations."

"Why should I believe?"

How would you answer my neighbor? Just curious. ;)

I want to read the topic which you read on aliens and what makes you think that Jesus is not god just by proving the existence of aliens ?

Aliens do exist,I know that.It doesn't mean that Jesus is not the god.
It was pretty clear that the existence of aliens was mentioned in the bible.

But why god values the earth a lot because,humans were made in god's image.

I saw aliens in my vision and I do agree with a very strong voice that aliens exist and they are powerful than humans.

But what even makes you think that point could make a solid statement to prove that Jesus is not the GOD,it shows immaturity not only in christ but also in human conscience and science.

And concerning your question see,

You know puppet show right ? like how the puppeteer controls each and every one in the show and does along with the play.

Now imagine earth as a puppet show and we are puppets,and God as puppeteer.

bottom line is,no one can come into christ on their own,it is only by christ we come into him,it is only by him we live and it is only by him we reach him.

that is how the glory to god is formed by not diverting upon to human choice of seeking christ.

If god wants your friend or neighbor to know about him,then he would himself create a feeling inside the person to know about christ or else even though u try hard it's a waste of time.
 
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I think that in order to prove God to someone you must first establish the relational bond to do so. I work in a secular environment and everyone at my work is not a christian. I have had countless opportunities to revel my faith and defend it within that context (also being a college bible student helps). in our postmodern society we are faced with differnt avenues of beliefs and people that hold these beliefs will have ways to defend it (anyone can defend anything if they believe it hard enough). a true testimony of Gods power and the power of his word is relieved the strongest in our lives. when a non-believer asks me why i am abstaining from sex until marriage that is an opportunity to profess Christ and his power. I say this and have seen its fruit. since working at my job i have been able to get one employee to come to church with me and i am working on the others i think relationships and our lives is the best proof of God
 
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At the beginning of the 20th century the belief of many scientists was that the universe had always been as it is now, and would continue to be so into the infinite future. Albert Einstein was one of those scientists.

Then the big bang theory was first introduced. Many of these same scientists fought against accepting this theory due to its advancing that there was a beginning, before which the universe did not exist.

But evidence built up over the years in support of the big bang theory. The speed at which entire galaxies were moving, the clumping of galaxies together like material that had been fired from a certain area, as well as observations through extremely powerful telescopes which showed the light given off by events which occurred very shortly after the big bang eventually caused them to accept that there had been a definite beginning rather than an infinite constancy to the universe.

But this posed another problem which Albert Einstein recognized, and which changed his belief system. Prior to this he had claimed to be an atheist. God wasn't necessary in order for anything to happen, because what was happening now in the universe was nothing more than what had happened going back into the infinite past. But his own theory that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction countered this belief. He saw the beginning of the universe not only as an action, but also as a reaction to something, or someone, that existed before that beginning of the universe, and whose action had set the whole thing in motion.

Also the acceptance that there had been a finite length of time in which all that was created came into being presented problems to those who didn't want a divine intelligence involved in the universe's creation. Some argued that the universe had previously contracted to the point where the big bang happened, and this was due to a previous big bang that became a big crunch after billions of years. But the math didn't support this. The universe had begun at a certain time, and prior to that time had not existed in any form. That was the decision of mathematicians, not theologians (Stephen Hawking came up with a mathematical formula which enabled the universe to expand and contract, but it was merely an exercise on his part in which he had used the number 'square root of -1', which number is irrational, in order to get it to work).

Others who didn't want to permit a divine being to have credit for a universe where life can live and thrive came up with the idea of parallel universes. Alongside this universe, visible to us, were other universes which we could not perceive. Because so many universes were being 'cranked out' by this 'universe machine', there was bound to be one that could support life as we know it. Quite frankly, it would take more faith to accept an infinite number of universes all huddled together than it would for me to accept the direction of a divine being in this universe's beginning and continuation.

We may not be able to prove that there is a divine being we call 'God' so clearly that scientists can no longer fight against it, but certain scientists have gone to great lengths in order to come up with their own theories that could exclude him from the ongoing process of the universe's continuation. This tells me that it is more than merely a belief that science has proven that he doesn't exist. It tells me that the people themselves are attempting to rationalize their own nonbelief by using science as a smokescreen.

As for the Bible's no longer being relevant, that statement could only come from someone who either has never read it, or who wants us to accept his own 'pet' philosophy rather than accepting Scripture.

Even those who have chosen not to accept the divinity of Christ can see the relevance of Scripture to the world around us. For example, the Bible tells us that the emotions which we need to rein in are those which lead to destruction. Hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; these are all emotions which we are to see as contrary to Christian belief and not to be tolerated. They are also the emotions which, 2000 years later, are all classified as 'negative emotions', causing strife and discord in families and societies, as well as actual illness in some cases.

Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control; these are all emotions which Scripture tells us we are to welcome and nurture in our lives. They are also the emotions which, 2000 years later, doctors tell us are examples of 'positive emotions' promoting a healthy lifestyle for us and all those around us. (You can find these lists of negative and positive emotions in Galatians 5:16-26).

And how does Scripture tell us that we are to show our faith? We are to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, welcome the stranger, comfort the sick, and visit those imprisoned. Scripture gives clrear evidence that Christianity is not to be seen as a pietistic religion promoting elitism and judgementalism. Instead, it's to be seen as a religion which teaches that we are to show our compassion for others through giving practical aid to those who are suffering. (Matthew 25:31-46 tells us that Jesus Christ himself expects those who would follow him to perform these acts of kindness to others).

Not only is Scripture not irrelevant, but it is as relevant today as it was when it was written 2,000 years ago. Just as there was suffering then, there is suffering now, and Scripture tells us quite plainly that when we see that suffering we are expected to alleviate it. There are to be no excuses or rationalizations given in order to 'dance around' our responsibility; the task is there for us to perform, and if we choose not to do it, then it is not the Bible that is irrelevant, but we ourselves as Christians.
 
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The simplest method is to use the Gospels. That is the reason Jesus (God ) had witnesses to everything he did. Each one of the Gospels gives an account of the Life of Jesus from each persons point of view as they witnessed everything that he did.

Look at his resurrection there were witnesses who can account for that and he was on earth 40 days as proof that he was resurrected and the witnesses were human beings and his followers also.


Look at Thomas as we know him as doubting Thomas what did Jesus do to prove who he was and everybody in the room could testify to that.

The miracles and wonders that he did was witnessed by someone. Basically the only thing that he did alone was pray.

The Romans could testify about his death. The innkeeper and the magi could testify about his birth.

When they chose a replacement for Judas their were witnesses.


One of the qualifications for a disciple/Apostle was they needed to have been with Jesus from the beginning of His Ministry.

When he was baptized by John the Baptist and the Dove ascended on his shoulder there were witnesses.

So just like going to court everything that concerned Jesus here on earth is from a first hand source and not word of mouth.


Some one mentioned atheist but what people don't seem to realize is that man has divided everything when God only sees two types of Human beings and they are those who believe or believers and the other group is those who don't believe or unbelievers.

The other religions believe in some type of God but they are unbelievers in the one and only true living God so what is the difference. There is none because None of them believe in the God that we believe.
 
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