Protestors Try to Topple Andrew Jackson Statue

[bèlla]

WASHINGTON — Protesters defaced a statue of Andrew Jackson in Lafayette Square outside the White House on Monday night as they tried to topple it, according to the Interior Department and media reports.

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The Jackson statue remained on its pedestal, according to The Associated Press. Videos posted on social media showed that the protesters had climbed on the statue and tied ropes around it, then tried to pull it off its pedestal, the AP said.

When asked about reports of pepper spray being used in Lafayette Park, a National Park Service spokesperson told NBC News: "I am still gathering information, but it is accurate that pepper spray was used to disengage the protesters from the statue and clear the area."

Interior Secretary David L. Bernhardt said in a statement that he had just left the scene at Lafayette Square "where another so called 'peaceful protest' led to destruction tonight. Let me be clear: we will not bow to anarchists. Law and order will prevail, and justice will be served."

He added that the Jackson statue has been "defaced by criminals who sought to topple the statue recognizing the seventh President of the United States. Law enforcement officers ensured that this would not happen."

The U.S. Park Police with assistance from Washington, D.C.'s Metropolitan Police Department and the Secret Service tried to prevent destruction of the statue, a spokesperson for the Park Police told NBC News.

Interior Department spokesperson Nicholas Goodwin said arrests were made in Lafayette Square, but didn't provide any further details.

 

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WASHINGTON — Protesters defaced a statue of Andrew Jackson in Lafayette Square outside the White House on Monday night as they tried to topple it, according to the Interior Department and media reports.

One thing I disagree with is calling them "protesters". They are not protestors. Tearing down statues is a deliberate act aimed at destroying the history of the USA. They are trying to humiliate Americans...and destroy the government.

It is no longer about George Floyd....The George Floyd protest has been hi-jacked by anarchist...and in many instances supported by blue state Governors and mayors.

 

[98cwitr]

What we are watching right now is the unfolding and execution of a marxist revolution. It happened in Vietnam, in China, in Venezuela, and it's happening here...right now.

 

[Dave G.]

One thing I disagree with is calling them "protesters". They are not protestors. Tearing down statues is a deliberate act aimed at destroying the history of the USA. They are trying to humiliate Americans...and destroy the government.

It is no longer about George Floyd....The George Floyd protest has been hi-jacked by anarchist...and in many instances supported by blue state Governors and mayors.

Oh I agree but I believe it goes well above Governors and Mayors. It's organized and it's obvious. And it's treasonous. IMO. It begs to ask the question who is the dictator in this ? Someone knows that answer.

 

[Silmarien]

I mostly think this statue craze is ridiculous, but toppling Andrew Jackson is something I can get behind. The Cherokee took him to the Supreme Court, won, and then he ignored the ruling, illegally took their land and forced them to relocate to the other side of the country, killing several thousand of them along the way. The Trail of Tears is a really big deal.

Should probably also be mentioned that the Cherokee had formerly been his allies--if I recall correctly, one had even saved his life at one point, and he'd basically promised them eternal friendship and then did that instead. This man is no hero.

 

[bèlla]

There is a right way and wrong way to go about it. I don't have the right to deface anyone's property. Let alone remove it. Once you permit the precedent you open Pandora's box. Then your neighbor will dictate what's acceptable. If you don't abide with his demands you're subject to mob action. Someone make take offense at the flag in your yard or holiday decorations and require their removal. That's where this leads.

~Bella

 

[Silmarien]

Sure, it'd be better to do it legally, but I think this is one of the situations where the statues really ought to come down. Andrew Jackson has never not been controversial.

 

[Dave G.]

I mostly think this statue craze is ridiculous, but toppling Andrew Jackson is something I can get behind. The Cherokee took him to the Supreme Court, won, and then he ignored the ruling, illegally took their land and forced them to relocate to the other side of the country, killing several thousand of them along the way. The Trail of Tears is a really big deal.

Should probably also be mentioned that the Cherokee had formerly been his allies--if I recall correctly, one had even saved his life at one point, and he'd basically promised them eternal friendship and then did that instead. This man is no hero.

Silmarien, to me take any statue down they are just that, statues. It's not the taking down but the legality and riot mentality. Heck when the edict comes down to take the statue down bring in the Cherokee to do it. Fine with me if it's done legally. But it seems we have mobs going around doing as they please and certain politicians who are fine with that. And guess what ? It's not fine !!

And think about it, you're fine with this statue, someone else is fine with the next. Pretty soon anyone gets to take down someone else's what ever.

 

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What we are watching right now is the unfolding and execution of a marxist revolution. It happened in Vietnam, in China, in Venezuela, and it's happening here...right now.

I agree...the war is multi-pronged. Tearing down history is only one of the prongs.

Seattle and Chad is another.
Antifa is another.
BLM is another.
Fauci and his lockdown was another.

 

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Oh I agree but I believe it goes well above Governors and Mayors. It's organized and it's obvious. And it's treasonous. IMO. It begs to ask the question who is the dictator in this ? Someone knows that answer.

On the spiritual level....the spirit of antichrist and one world order.

On the fleshly level....George Soros may be the top funder.

 

[bèlla]

The mentality behind this behavior is uncivilized. @OldWiseGuy shared a recent incident in Wisconsin regarding the Lincoln statue.

A black protestor wielding a baseball bat entered a sidewalk café and issued a threatening edict to the patrons. Either take down the Lincoln Memorial statue (on Bascom Hill on the campus of the University of Wisconsin, Madison) within one week or he would see to it himself.

Should patrons be subjected to barbaric behavior because someone is offended? When I sit down to a meal I don't expect to see a bat wielding lunatic ranting in the facility. Maybe that's too much to ask in today's society. But I'm not sanctioning uncouth responses for any cause.

~Bella

 

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Sure, it'd be better to do it legally, but I think this is one of the situations where the statues really ought to come down. Andrew Jackson has never not been controversial.

People need to wake up...tearing down statues is not about what a person did or didn't do...that has been proven where statues of Abolitionist have been defaced or removed.

The goal is for the marxist to demonize American history...and demoralize you.

 

[Silmarien]

People need to wake up...tearing down statues is not about what a person did or didn't do...that has been proven where statues of Abolitionist have been defaced or removed.

The goal is for the marxist to demonize American history...and demoralize you.

Eh, there's no need to demonize American history. It's pretty ugly as it is. I'm okay with honoring foundational figures who were problematic in some way, like the Founding Fathers, but with Andrew Jackson, you've got both a genocide and abuse of constitutional power in that he refused to adhere to a Supreme Court decision.

 

[Arc F1]

Sure, it'd be better to do it legally, but I think this is one of the situations where the statues really ought to come down. Andrew Jackson has never not been controversial.

Where do we stop in history? Every race at one point in time has wronged someone. When all the statues and symbols are gone people will turn on the individuals they deem to be unworthy. Those individuals are myself and the other believers right here on the forum. Everyday we hear more and more about Christians being the problem.

 

[Silmarien]

Where do we stop in history? Every race at one point in time has wronged someone. When all the statues and symbols are gone people will turn on the individuals they deem to be unworthy. Those individuals are myself and the other believers right here on the forum. Everyday we hear more and more about Christians being the problem.

Personally, I would stop with national heroes who committed atrocities that were considered controversial at the time. There is no need to honor someone who quite literally stole people's land (since he was actually denied the authority to do so by another branch of the government) and then got a significant fraction of them killed during a forced march across the country. This was one of the objectively darkest moments in American history, and it is very much attached to a specific individual: Andrew Jackson.

 

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Eh, there's no need to demonize American history. It's pretty ugly as it is. I'm okay with honoring foundational figures who were problematic in some way, like the Founding Fathers, but with Andrew Jackson, you've got both a genocide and abuse of constitutional power in that he refused to adhere to a Supreme Court decision.

Then use the statue as a teaching point...I'm sure you can find a skeleton in every statues closet.
Can you name a person you would like to see memorialized in a statue?

 

[bèlla]

Take the statues, books, relics, etc. We can whitewash it all. It reminds me of Anthem. If you ever wondered why God responded to the Tower of Babel as He did. Reflect on the last few weeks and you'll understand.

Dumb momentum is dangerous.

~Bella

 

[Dave G.]

The mentality behind this behavior is uncivilized. @OldWiseGuy shared a recent incident in Wisconsin regarding the Lincoln statue.

A black protestor wielding a baseball bat entered a sidewalk café and issued a threatening edict to the patrons. Either take down the Lincoln Memorial statue (on Bascom Hill on the campus of the University of Wisconsin, Madison) within one week or he would see to it himself.

Should patrons be subjected to barbaric behavior because someone is offended? When I sit down to a meal I don't expect to see a bat wielding lunatic ranting in the facility. Maybe that's too much to ask in today's society. But I'm not sanctioning uncouth responses for any cause.

~Bella

I saw that yesterday. I decided not to respond and instead go into the spirit. It's tiring around here, all we see is news. It seems people focus on the temporal when they need Christ, so I went that route at least for that point in time. But ya, uncivilized is a good term, actually it kind of made me chuckle a bit when I read that because that is just so you to say something like that in the midst of anarchy lol !!

 

[Silmarien]

Then use the statue as a teaching point...I'm sure you can find a skeleton in every statues closet.
Can you name a person you would like to see memorialized in a statue?

Martin Luther King Jr.? Dorothy Day? Abraham Lincoln? I don't mind the Founding Fathers.

Everyone has skeletons, but not everyone's skeletons are of equal size. This is "everyone sins, so who cares if someone's setting up internment camps?" logic. If "genocide" is in someone's closet, and it's recent enough memory that the victims are still around, we should consider not memorializing them.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Eh, there's no need to demonize American history. It's pretty ugly as it is. I'm okay with honoring foundational figures who were problematic in some way, like the Founding Fathers, but with Andrew Jackson, you've got both a genocide and abuse of constitutional power in that he refused to adhere to a Supreme Court decision.

Regardless, most had redeeming qualities.