Proposition 8 in California must pass!

[Andreusz]

You know and I know that gay dudes and dudettes were born that way, and that most people--whether religious or not--know that.
Still, there's that tiny minority that's giving us Jews and Christians a bad rap with this misinformation. The misinformation that gay dudes choose this lifestyle.

It's really not clear to me what you are trying to say here. Could you explain some more?

 

[Brennin]

I will be voting for it. Of course, the governor should have told Ronald George and his three stooges to shove their ruling, since it is not rooted in the state or federal constitution, but that's what you get from a RINO.

 

[KCKID]

It's really not clear to me what you are trying to say here. Could you explain some more?

I guess Holy Roller will speak for himself when he comes back online; however, it seems as though he's saying that HE believes that homosexuality is not a choice but innate. He's also saying that he believes people - whether they be Christian or not - really know that to be true. In other words he believes - it appears - that homosexuals are getting a bad rap from people who, deep down, really DO know better.

Did I do good, Holy Roller?

 

[pgp_protector]

I guess Holy Roller will speak for himself when he comes back online; however, it seems as though he's saying that HE believes that homosexuality is not a choice but innate. He's also saying that he believes people - whether they be Christian or not - really know that to be true. In other words he believes - it appears - that homosexuals are getting a bad rap from people who, deep down, really DO know better.

Did I do good, Holy Roller?

But if that was the case, then why would they want to pass Prop 8 that would prevent people that have no choice (I.E. They are born that way) from getting married ?

 

[BigBadWlf]

I will be voting for it. Of course, the governor should have told Ronald George and his three stooges to shove their ruling, since it is not rooted in the state or federal constitution, but that's what you get from a RINO.

Yeah that 14th amendment isn’t part of the constitution…oh…wait…never mind

 

[Brennin]

Yeah that 14th amendment isn’t part of the constitution…oh…wait…never mind

It is but it has nothing to do with gay "marriage." So sorry.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I will be voting for it. Of course, the governor should have told Ronald George and his three stooges to shove their ruling, since it is not rooted in the state or federal constitution, but that's what you get from a RINO.

In what possible way does secular recognition of homosexual marriage effect you?

 

[BigBadWlf]

It is but it has nothing to do with gay "marriage." So sorry.

Your knowledge of the constitution is just as good as your knowledge of Greek.

The 14th amendment says:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Equal protection includes minorities. And as the Supreme court ruled in Romer vs. Evans it covers all minorities even the unpopular ones.


The amendment has been applied to various issues of civil rights including interracial marriage. It was also used to end segregation, it was used ot overturn laws baring minorities from serving on juries.
The Supreme Court also used the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause as providing substantive protection to private contracts…such as marraige

 

[Brennin]

Your knowledge of the constitution is just as good as your knowledge of Greek.

The 14th amendment says: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Equal protection includes minorities. And as the Supreme court ruled in Romer vs. Evans it covers all minorities even the unpopular ones.


The amendment has been applied to various issues of civil rights including interracial marriage. It was also used to end segregation, it was used ot overturn laws baring minorities from serving on juries.
The Supreme Court also used the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause as providing substantive protection to private contracts…such as marraige

Like I said, there is nothing about gay "marriage" there. Your assertion to the contrary is especially ridiculous considering that sodomy laws were on the books before, during, and after the 14th amendment was ratified.

I suggest reading for comprehension next time.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Brennin Bump...

In what possible way does secular recognition of homosexual marriage effect you?

 

[Brennin]

Brennin Bump...

Having to acknowledge the "unions" is how it affects me.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Having to acknowledge the "unions" is how it affects me.

Ah, so you'd rather be able to pretend that homosexual unions don't exist? Gotcha

 

[pgp_protector]

Having to acknowledge the "unions" is how it affects me.

Sounds like a personal issue to me.
Do you have a problem with my "unblibical" marriage ?

 

[Brennin]

Ah, so you'd rather be able to pretend that homosexual unions don't exist? Gotcha

Homosexuals can play house all they want; it is official recognition I object to.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Homosexuals can play house all they want; it is official recognition I object to.

Why? In what way does official recognition effect you in ANYway?

 

[pgp_protector]

Homosexuals can play house all they want; it is official recognition I object to.

How will Governmental recognition effect your marrage ?

 

[KCKID]

Homosexuals can play house all they want; it is official recognition I object to.

Not so. I believe it's a personal thing. You would still object whether homosexual unions were officially recognized or not.

 

[Brennin]

Why? In what way does official recognition effect you in ANYway?

If I own a business, say, then idiot judges like the four who forced gay "marriage" on us would rule (actually, have ruled) that I have to treat gay "marriages" the same as real marriages. They have no business forcing that nonsense on me or anyone else who disagrees with it.

 

[Brennin]

Not so. I believe it's a personal thing. You would still object whether homosexual unions were officially recognized or not.

I would object but I would ignore their pseudo-marriages.

 

[pgp_protector]

I would object but I would ignore their pseudo-marriages.

I'll ask it again then.
Do you have a problem with my "unblibical" marriage ?