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Let me know if this is confirmation to you John14, what keeps coming to me concerning you is the gift of miracles, also evangelism, preaching and teaching the Word, also flowing in the word of wisdom and counsel, study to show yourself approved unto God, rightly dividing the truth.

You are a man of God that will move in power and the miraculous, touching many :amen: Glory to Jesus!!

The only part of the Holy Spirit I have felt is when God revealed himself to me last summer and I put my trust in Him and believed he was my Lord and Saviour and decided that is the path I wanted to follow rather than be someone who considered himself a "semi-christian."

Then the part of the Holy Spirit that I have felt is the dividing between flesh and Spirit and being edified through the word of God that out of nowhere speaks to me on a personal level.

No one has layed hands at me before and I have not been through a second baptism or a Confirmation.

I have been given an impression that the laying of hands is important. It can be used for people who have already received the Spirit to bring out the full working of the Spirit within someone or strengthen them in the Spirit. No one told me this, this is something I interpretted. I don't know if its true or not. From what I read in Scripture, Timothy was given a prophecy and received the Spirit from the laying of on hands.
 
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Study your namesake, John 14, until every word quickens the very marrow of your bones, then do the same with John 15. Go deeper into Him, you are chosen.

Actually, John15 stood out to me recently, especially those who are cut off that don't bear fruit and that Jesus is the true vine and the father prunes those that bear fruit.
 
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Don't be discouraged by what I'm about to say, but this didn't "leap off the page to me" like one might expect. There were a couple things about it though that were right on, and the overall message is definately correct. I think that the "first person singular" nature of the way this was written put me off right from the start. If that's the case, then it's my problem, not yours. Be greatly blessed today.

I am not discouraged, rather I have grown to love my brothers and sisters in Christ and for them, I die daily. I've had this wonderful relationship with the Holy Spirit for the las few months and as I learned to listen to Him, He began to treach Me His truth as He promised in the form of a man, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Early in the giving of the delivery of these prophetic messages, I had to learn a very specific message that I am happily enjoying today and that is we're commanded to be transformed by the renewing of our mind. How can this possibly occur except that we learn to apply our thougts to His word? With that said, the Holy Spirit asked me one day if I could restrain myself by witholding my own opinions.

Today, I am happily witholding my own opinions for I now know that they are thoughts that might originate from a source that comes from the enemy. I now know too today that anything that may come to mind is not always of God. When these thoughts do come, I refuse to accept them but encounter them with His word.

I think that the "first person singular" nature of the way this was written put me off right from the start. If that's the case, then it's my problem, not yours. Be greatly blessed today.[/

With the above said, would you prefer to hear me speak or would you prefer if He speaks for Himself? I have one real difficulty with the prophetic messages. Either I can choose to speak for myself or I can let Him do the talking Himself in the way He expresses Himself through an underserving vessel.

Thank you for your kind words of love. They really ministered to me in a wonderful way and thank you for giving me that opportunity to continue to learn and grow. You are truly blessed. God bless you too.
 
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I am not discouraged, rather I have grown to love my brothers and sisters in Christ and for them, I die daily. I've had this wonderful relationship with the Holy Spirit for the las few months and as I learned to listen to Him, He began to treach Me His truth as He promised in the form of a man, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Early in the giving of the delivery of these prophetic messages, I had to learn a very specific message that I am happily enjoying today and that is we're commanded to be transformed by the renewing of our mind. How can this possibly occur except that we learn to apply our thougts to His word? With that said, the Holy Spirit asked me one day if I could restrain myself by witholding my own opinions.

Today, I am happily witholding my own opinions for I now know that they are thoughts that might originate from a source that comes from the enemy. I now know too today that anything that may come to mind is not always of God. When these thoughts do come, I refuse to accept them but encounter them with His word.

I think that the "first person singular" nature of the way this was written put me off right from the start. If that's the case, then it's my problem, not yours. Be greatly blessed today.[/

With the above said, would you prefer to hear me speak or would you prefer if He speaks for Himself? I have one real difficulty with the prophetic messages. Either I can choose to speak for myself or I can let Him do the talking Himself in the way He expresses Himself through an underserving vessel.

Thank you for your kind words of love. They really ministered to me in a wonderful way and thank you for giving me that opportunity to continue to learn and grow. You are truly blessed. God bless you too.

Actually, this may sound a bit foreign to you, but I really would prefer to hear you speaking out of the prophetic gift. I bet that sounds frightening and dangerous doesn't it? As you gain more and more experience operating in the prophetic gifting you will learn more and more to trust that what you are saying is truely coming from God, and you will no longer need the "perceived" safty net of speaking in first person singular. Keep practicing and I promise you that you will come to understand what I mean. Be bold!
 
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Actually, this may sound a bit foreign to you, but I really would prefer to hear you speaking out of the prophetic gift. I bet that sounds frightening and dangerous doesn't it? As you gain more and more experience operating in the prophetic gifting you will learn more and more to trust that what you are saying is truely coming from God, and you will no longer need the "perceived" safty net of speaking in first person singular. Keep practicing and I promise you that you will come to understand what I mean. Be bold!

I've grown out of the shell where I was frightened and thought that speaking His word would be dangerous. It doesn't sound foreign now but at first it did give me a scare. What really helped me was to meditate quietly on His word and allow the anointing that resides in me to teach me.

I'm in a prophetic ministry now where it was absent at one time where I come from. I had a night vision where I saw two brilliant flashed of light atop a high hill and when I gestured to let them know I was aware of their presence, I was instantly in their presence. I knew they were Angels and I spoke with them.

To make a long story short they instructed me that I was needed to make an impartation of the prophetic ministry as the people in the region where I originally came from were not prepared for it. What really caught my attention was that they spoke perfect Inuktitut (Inuit language) in my dialect. I told the Angel that I was speaking with that if it was for the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ Who rose from the dead that I was willing to take the mission.

Before this ever ocurred, an old man who is now with the Lord spoke with me one day. He told me about the vision he had and told me that he had been given a name of a person who'd 'prophesy' and so on and so forth. Prior to speaking with him we had not known each other nor had ever heard of one another. He went on to explain that the name he was given was Taami Patiq which my Inuktitut name.

I've been giving out prohetic messages at more of a coporate level where He speaks to His own where more than one individual is involved. Some of these people were the hardest of the hard who doubted and would have gladly left the prophetic alone. Now they are my best encouragers and really support me in their prayer life as well. One of these individuals rebuked a growth that was abnormally growing in my body and within two days it was gone even though it was originally the size of a ping-pong ball.

Another experience I had was of a brother in Christ whom the Lord spoke and gave him his full name that I never knew. This brother is now serving the Lord with all of his heart. Regarding the "perceived" safety net, as you put it, in speaking first person singular, it's another area that the Holy Spirit taught me if I was goign to continue to be used as a vessel for Him to pour forth of His oil. I gladly obliged to Him.

I'm still practicing. Allowing his word to flow to individuals is one I am not always comfortable unless it's in an open area where others can judge the message to see or hear if it is in fact the testimony of Jesus. Times like that I am always open to correction. I believe this is what this thread is open for and I for one am open to continue in His word. May the God and Fathe of our Lord Jesus Christ continue to use you for the glory of His kingdom! Shalom!
 
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That Which Never Fails.
We watch as the winds blow.
As the earth shakes.
And the waves roar.
As the people are scattered yet once more.
The glass breaks.
Buildings are blown away.
Cars swept away.
Water rises.
All that can be moved.
Is moved.
All that can be destroyed.
Is destroyed.
Money cannot stop it.
The most powerful nations on earth.
Cannot stop it.
All falls to his strength.
Why??
Why? so many ask.
Why so many scattered.
Why so much destroyed.
Those scattered know the answer.
They could have spent a life time.
Blind to the truth.
But now they have seen the truth.
They have seen the hands of Love.
The hands that gave them food.
The hands that gave them water.
The hands that reached to them in their time of need.
Was the hands of Love.
Love of others.
Love of neighbors.
Love of Churches.
The Love of the unseen.
Unseen armies of Love, Compassion,Kindness
Ask those who are scattered.
What is most important to them?
Now that their world has been shaken.
Before it was their homes.
Before it was their jobs.
Before it was their cars.
Now ask
What is important to them?
A tear will come to their eyes.
Their hand will reach out.
To their wives.
To their husbands.
To their sons.
To their daughters.
To their fathers.
To their mothers.
To their friends.
And to their neighbors.
They have seen.
They have been touched.
Touched by the hand of Love.
Life for them will never be as it was.
All can
And will be shaken.
All can
And will be removed.
Love is all that will always remain.
Reach for that which will never fail you.
The hand of Love.
God is Love
Love is Gods Way.
Thank you so much for this!! I have been going through an "undoing" of religion. That is to say, God has been removing all the traditions that had been taught to me by man that didn't align with the scriptures. This really spoke to me, in this area of my life. Praise God for His revelations of truth versus traditions.
 
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I've grown out of the shell where I was frightened and thought that speaking His word would be dangerous. It doesn't sound foreign now but at first it did give me a scare. What really helped me was to meditate quietly on His word and allow the anointing that resides in me to teach me.

I'm in a prophetic ministry now where it was absent at one time where I come from. I had a night vision where I saw two brilliant flashed of light atop a high hill and when I gestured to let them know I was aware of their presence, I was instantly in their presence. I knew they were Angels and I spoke with them.

To make a long story short they instructed me that I was needed to make an impartation of the prophetic ministry as the people in the region where I originally came from were not prepared for it. What really caught my attention was that they spoke perfect Inuktitut (Inuit language) in my dialect. I told the Angel that I was speaking with that if it was for the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ Who rose from the dead that I was willing to take the mission.

Before this ever ocurred, an old man who is now with the Lord spoke with me one day. He told me about the vision he had and told me that he had been given a name of a person who'd 'prophesy' and so on and so forth. Prior to speaking with him we had not known each other nor had ever heard of one another. He went on to explain that the name he was given was Taami Patiq which my Inuktitut name.

I've been giving out prohetic messages at more of a coporate level where He speaks to His own where more than one individual is involved. Some of these people were the hardest of the hard who doubted and would have gladly left the prophetic alone. Now they are my best encouragers and really support me in their prayer life as well. One of these individuals rebuked a growth that was abnormally growing in my body and within two days it was gone even though it was originally the size of a ping-pong ball.

Another experience I had was of a brother in Christ whom the Lord spoke and gave him his full name that I never knew. This brother is now serving the Lord with all of his heart. Regarding the "perceived" safety net, as you put it, in speaking first person singular, it's another area that the Holy Spirit taught me if I was goign to continue to be used as a vessel for Him to pour forth of His oil. I gladly obliged to Him.

I'm still practicing. Allowing his word to flow to individuals is one I am not always comfortable unless it's in an open area where others can judge the message to see or hear if it is in fact the testimony of Jesus. Times like that I am always open to correction. I believe this is what this thread is open for and I for one am open to continue in His word. May the God and Fathe of our Lord Jesus Christ continue to use you for the glory of His kingdom! Shalom!

Please pray and prophesy to me brother, if you feel led
 
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to get the information through the phone line it needs to go through a modem so that the signal can be converted to sound tones that can go through a phone line. Another modem at the other end converts the sound tones back into digital so that the computer at that end can understand it.

So it is with us. God speaks to our spirit, and our mind then has to interpret what has been received.
Taking this further to wireless puts quite a reality to the concept of God informing us through our minds.

Prayer is wireless. God's messages are wireless. This is not just an analogy, but I believe it's a scientific reality, that if information can travel through space and land in perfect format, then what is the difference between a digital reciever and our brains?

Studies have been done since the early days of computers, comparing brain cell activity with computer actions. Scientists were even able to get the BIOS ons and offs using DNA to control actions.

So to hear from God without our ears, and see without our eyes.... those are just simple processes for God, and our tech era has allowed us to see how easily the communication can be explained.

There is a subtle difference between hearing our daily nudges from God, and hearing something prophetic. I consider it much more seamless than some others do. But I don't hear "thus saith" messages from God... just impressions and words and visual concepts.

(Like the one this afternoon when God hinted that I needed to be on this thread now, and I countered His hint...)

Vini, (hee hee, sorry) I understand what you are saying, and agree with some of your points. We do need to be careful. I have watched some errors happen with prophecy, and some people harmed.

This usually happens when people are too dependent on the prophet for communication with their Lord (as someone brought up a few pages ago), when people use it to overpower others or in spiritual competition, and when the prophetic word gives directives like "go sell your house" and the hearer believes they should immediately act.

We all hear from God. Some of us have different giftings in how we hear, and how we are meant to help each other, but that does not make one person better than another.

Often we don't understand each other's gifts. I would say in this case that your concerns are intended to purify the gifts that already exist. It seems that you are not trying to stop all prophesy, but to bring people to analyze each stage in what they are doing.

I'm not convinced that a prophetic practice thread is the place to confront it, but it's a direct and immediate response to something that you feel is off center, and we need the freedom to express that in a forum.

We all need to guard ourselves in how we spend our time with each other. Assuming that God has different purposes for each of us, we are not going to agree with everything going on. But if we spend the majority of our energies destroying the feeble or imperfect work of others, then no one will get anything done, and we will all be paranoid wrecks... afraid to try anything.

Some of the verses that bring me around to recognizing this form of prophesy, are the Old Testament uses of the word "prophesying."
Nu 11:27
1Sa 10
1Sa 19:20 -23
He proceeded there to Naioth in Ramah; and the Spirit of God came upon him also, so that he went along prophesying continually until he came to Naioth in Ramah.

...and on.

There are certainly words of God against false prophets, but each of will be held accountable for what we teach and say to others.
Jer 23:16


When people say "do you have a word for me," it makes me uneasy too, but on a forum with so many people, the structure of prophecy needs to be different, unless we were to welcome it in every thread. There is no subtle way to say "I think God is telling me something for you," or "I really need some encouragement and discernment, because I have hit a brick wall." So, "do you have a word"... I guess it has to suffice.
 
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Does anyone have a prayer for me? I would ask for a word but I am not sure I want God to spank me publicly but if you all would pray in the Spirit I trust he will let you know how to pray. If He then decides to send a word to anyone I will receive it in love. In the meantime I am going to go listen for myself.
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When I have given words, I have always been reluctant to use the first person. To use the first person to represent the voice of God in a prophecy is to put an authority on it that is hard to ignore, and if the person receiving the word does not witness to it, it can cause conflict ("what if I am disobeying God?") and guilt. This is also why I never use "Thus says the Lord".

My view is that the prophecy comes from me (in the first instance). If it turns out to be the voice of God to a person, then it is that person who determines that. Putting the prophecy into a format that it appears that I am saying the words makes it easy for a person to come back to me and say "I don't understand such and such, would you please explain that to me." without the idea that the person is questioning God about His Word.

I can understand people being put off by receiving a prophecy with the first person voice of God. I find it hard to accept them too.

I always refer to the Lord in the third person, and then I know that everyone knows that I am giving the word through my faith and leaving things wide open for people to either accept or reject the prophecy as they see fit.

I think the harm has come to people when a prophecy has been given in the first person voice of God, and they haven't had the experience or knowledge to know that the word can be taken or left. They have gone and obeyed what they have believed is the direct word of God and got themselves into hot water as a result.

Actually, putting a prophecy in the first person voice of God actually cuts across the Holy Spirit when He wants to apply the word to a person's heart. Only the Holy Spirit Himself can speak to a person's heart and say "this is for you." It is not the prophet's place. The prophet's place is to give the word in faith and leave it to the Holy Spirit to apply it to whosoever He will.

This is why I will not prophesy guidance fortell the future, deal with hatches, matches, or despatches, or reveal sin in people. The Lord has not included those in my brief.

You will also notice that even when I give a personal prophecy, it is generic enough for others to accept the word for themselves also. Many have been blessed by a prophecy on the forum directed to a specific person and have taken the word into their hearts also. This shows the dynamic nature of the word of God when applied to people's hearts by the Holy Spirit.
 
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When I have given words, I have always been reluctant to use the first person. To use the first person to represent the voice of God in a prophecy is to put an authority on it that is hard to ignore, and if the person receiving the word does not witness to it, it can cause conflict ("what if I am disobeying God?") and guilt. This is also why I never use "Thus says the Lord".

My view is that the prophecy comes from me (in the first instance). If it turns out to be the voice of God to a person, then it is that person who determines that. Putting the prophecy into a format that it appears that I am saying the words makes it easy for a person to come back to me and say "I don't understand such and such, would you please explain that to me." without the idea that the person is questioning God about His Word.

I can understand people being put off by receiving a prophecy with the first person voice of God. I find it hard to accept them too.

I always refer to the Lord in the third person, and then I know that everyone knows that I am giving the word through my faith and leaving things wide open for people to either accept or reject the prophecy as they see fit.

I think the harm has come to people when a prophecy has been given in the first person voice of God, and they haven't had the experience or knowledge to know that the word can be taken or left. They have gone and obeyed what they have believed is the direct word of God and got themselves into hot water as a result.

Actually, putting a prophecy in the first person voice of God actually cuts across the Holy Spirit when He wants to apply the word to a person's heart. Only the Holy Spirit Himself can speak to a person's heart and say "this is for you." It is not the prophet's place. The prophet's place is to give the word in faith and leave it to the Holy Spirit to apply it to whosoever He will.

This is why I will not prophesy guidance fortell the future, deal with hatches, matches, or despatches, or reveal sin in people. The Lord has not included those in my brief.

You will also notice that even when I give a personal prophecy, it is generic enough for others to accept the word for themselves also. Many have been blessed by a prophecy on the forum directed to a specific person and have taken the word into their hearts also. This shows the dynamic nature of the word of God when applied to people's hearts by the Holy Spirit.

Amen O, edify, exhort, comfort :prayer:
 
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The Lord sees you in your distress. You are not hidden from Him. If you were to count His thoughts toward you, they would number as the sands of the sea. Therefore, be not overcome with worry. Set aside your inward turmoil and rest in the Lord's love for you. Be strong, fear not, behold the Lord Jesus has heard your prayer and He is delivering you.

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