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Thanks jimmie i can usually put up with your crapa little better than i did to day LOL From the words of my teenage daughter [ My Bad ] which is only one step away from the worst of all words spoken from a teenagers lips [ What Ever ]
There's that name againDon't let Vicente get you down Rod,
The anointing as an Apostle for the poster I have been referring to, which by the way isn't Rod, is exactly what's in question. So my "attack", as you call it, is not proof of someones anointing.there is always attack on the true anointing,
I was kinda down today, but when i went to get nonfat yogurts for me and tami i spoke in tongues all the way there and back and the Holy Spirit broke off the doldrums, i preached last night and the anointing poured on the young adults and Tami and usually the next day your real tired, lets stay built up in HIM!!Oh and by the way, i brought tami her yogurt on the couch, and we're watching Dr. Phil, who has T.D. Jakes on his show, thanks for the Word earlier today, oh mighty prophet of God
Jimmie
Maybe it is a bad example. I used it because it was the first thing that came to mind. Still though, maybe the reason Thomas was reproved is because being one of Jesus’ closest followers who Jesus had already established Himself and His claims with, Thomas should have recognized Him. Even after reprimanding him though, Jesus still showed the scars. It might not be the best example I could have given though, but it came to mind first and was a quick response.I have noticed that several times you have used the example of "Doubting Thomas" as how we should test things I find this a poor example as Thomas was indulged and Jesus even made him touch the wounds to be sure he truely believed. But Jesus also reproved him for his unbelief did he not? I'm sure you can find a better example.
I will give both because as there were false prophets in the OT times, so there are in the NT times, so the test for the validity of a prophet has changed though the consequences of being a false one have (ex. We dont stone them any more).Cory533 said:I know there are specific examples of testing prophets in the OT are there any in the new?
We are not to just accept anything that the wind blows our way.
Again, dont just accept anything that someone claims is from the Lord.Titus 1:9-11:
9(A)holding fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, so that he will be able both to exhort in (B)sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict.
10(C)For there are many (D)rebellious men, (E)empty talkers and deceivers, especially (F)those of the circumcision,
11who must be silenced because they are upsetting (G)whole families, teaching (H)things they should not teach (I)for the sake of sordid gain.
Again, same point as the above ones.
Examine every prophetic utterance carefully. Pretty straight forward.
Just a couple of the ways to determine if a prophet is false. Sound doctrine is a requirement. Last verse says investigate, search out, and inquire thoroughly.Deuteronomy 13:
1"(A)If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder,
2and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, '(B)Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,'
3you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is (C)testing you to find out if (D)you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4"(E)You shall follow the LORD your God and fear Him; and you shall keep His commandments, listen to His voice, serve Him, and (F)cling to Him.
6"(J)If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, '(K)Let us go and serve other gods' (whom neither you nor your fathers have known,
7of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end),
8(L)you shall not yield to him or listen to him; (M)and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him.
12"If you hear in one of your cities, which the LORD your God is giving you to live in, anyone saying that
13some worthless men have gone out from among you and have seduced the inhabitants of their city, saying, '(R)Let us go and serve other gods' (whom you have not known),
14then you shall investigate and search out and inquire thoroughly.
Dont speak presumptuously in the name of God. According to the bible He takes this offence very serious. Serious enough to place it as commandment number 3:Deuteronomy 18:
20'But the prophet who speaks a word (V)presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or (W)which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'
21"You may say in your heart, 'How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'
22"(X)When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken The prophet has spoken it (Y)presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
Exodus 20:7:
7"(A)You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain.
There is a really good reason you have not heard me speak directly from God. I recognize that speaking directly from God is a gift I don’t have. So I’m not exactly due or overdue….I wasn’t on the schedule to begin with. And I won’t presumptuously speak directly from God because I think doing so is equal to taking His name in vain along with being misleading to others. If you wish, you can consider what I said a word of warning. But it’s not from God through me because I’m no prophet; I just happened to find it in scripture and decided to take it seriously.Have you shared in prophesey here yet? by the rules I would say you are due. I realize that the Spirit does not perform on command, However Jesus was clear on obeying rules.
Jeremiah 23:
25 "I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, 'I had a dream! I had a dream!'
26 How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds?
27 They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their fathers forgot my name through Baal worship.
28 Let the prophet who has a dream tell his dream, but let the one who has my word speak it faithfully. For what has straw to do with grain?" declares the LORD.
29 "Is not my word like fire," declares the LORD, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?
30 "Therefore," declares the LORD, "I am against the prophets who steal from one another words supposedly from me. 31 Yes," declares the LORD, "I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, 'The LORD declares.'
32 Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams," declares the LORD. "They tell them and lead my people astray with their reckless lies, yet I did not send or appoint them. They do not benefit these people in the least," declares the LORD.
33 "When these people, or a prophet or a priest, ask you, 'What is the oracle [d] of the LORD ?' say to them, 'What oracle? [e] I will forsake you, declares the LORD.'
34 If a prophet or a priest or anyone else claims, 'This is the oracle of the LORD,' I will punish that man and his household.
35 This is what each of you keeps on saying to his friend or relative: 'What is the LORD's answer?' or 'What has the LORD spoken?'
36 But you must not mention 'the oracle of the LORD ' again, because every man's own word becomes his oracle and so you distort the words of the living God, the LORD Almighty, our God.
37 This is what you keep saying to a prophet: 'What is the LORD's answer to you?' or 'What has the LORD spoken?'
38 Although you claim, 'This is the oracle of the LORD,' this is what the LORD says: You used the words, 'This is the oracle of the LORD,' even though I told you that you must not claim, 'This is the oracle of the LORD.'
39 Therefore, I will surely forget you and cast you out of my presence along with the city I gave to you and your fathers. 40 I will bring upon you everlasting disgrace—everlasting shame that will not be forgotten."
when God dives me a word, I am not going to change it, add to it, or take away from it whether a certain poster here likes it or not~!
The one the word is for will know. Not everyone. There will always be critics like yourself . All I have seen you do is tear down and bring disruption to a thread that was meant to uplift and encourage. I have spoke this way in church and it always blesses people including the pastor. And those pastors never once rebuked me or ask for a sign. You know a word is valid because it lines up with the Word.OK. And if you claim it's from God directly or your post is written as if God Himslef typed it, I will ask how I or anyone is to know it's really from God. It's not unreasonable.
A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales. The teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a human because even though its a very large mammal its throat is very small. the little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale.
Irritated the teacher reiterated that it was physically impossible. The little girl said; When i get to heaven i will ask Jonah. The teacher asked; What if Jonah went to hell?? The little girl replied; Then you ask him !!
Peace and Love !! Rod
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