Propaganda Machine

[Nathan Poe]

Clirus is unfortunately, all to real.

Nothing unfortunate about it -- it serves to make it funnier.

I am, however, morbidly curious how he'll answer my question: what would he do regarding thses subversive networks if he were in charge?

 

[NCStein]

The media in the US is ridiculously right-wing.

TO DARN FUNNY.

From Zoot's position as a New Zealander, he is absolutely correct. It may seem ridiculous to you, but the entire American political system is shifted to the right of the rest of the world, and that includes the media.

 

[Ahazmat]

Bush an oil man and a member of scull and bones
Kerry an oil man and a member of scull and bones.
Some Choice!

 

[clirus]

Nathan Poe quote
Say what you will about Clinton (and I know you will) but at least he knew how to put good people in charge. Under his presidency, FEMA actually had an ounce of competence, and was able to handle disasters quickly and efficiently -- Their respones to the OKlahoma city bombing is an example of what an agency like FEMA can do if properly managed.

Alone comes Bush II, and we see more cronyism, first in the abysmal response to 9/11, and again to Katrina.

As for the war, well, at this point it's a nigh-hopeless quagmire, which will suck US money, men, and resorces for at least the next decade, regardless of who's in charge.

Would democrats do better? I personally think yes because I can't imagine for the life of me how they could do worse.

Response
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Heat_Wave_of_ ... In July 1995, a Heat wave in Chicago, Illinois led to approximately 739 heat-related deaths over a period of five days. It is now considered to be one of the worst weather-related disasters in Illinois history. This occurred during the Clinton Administration.

Also, let us not forget the great handling of Waco and Ruby Ridge by the Clinton administration. Republicans kill terrorist, democrats kill Americans.

 

[clirus]

Nathan Poe quote
I am, however, morbidly curious how he'll answer my question: what would he do regarding thses subversive networks if he were in charge?

Response
The key problem with the Atheistic liberal news media is that they do not have a Code of Ethics and no accountability.

Congress should demand that the news media establish a Code of Ethics and a method of accountability.

The first item on the Code of Ethics should be that Anonymous Sources will not be used and that every news story should be confirmed by at least two sources. I will not go further unless you are interested.

Accountability should take the form of a review board of news media and government officials that evaluate violations of the Code of Ethics and establishes monetary awards, to be paid by the news organization, to those proving a violation of the Code of Ethics.

The person that found the superscript error in the Dan Rather forged documents should have been given at least a $10,000 award.

 

[tulc]

In July 1995, a Heat wave in Chicago, Illinois led to approximately 739 heat-related deaths over a period of five days. It is now considered to be one of the worst weather-related disasters in Illinois history. This occurred during the Clinton Administration.

Hmmm I remember that heat wave. They were pulling bodies out for weeks after wards. Here's an interesting interview with an author of a book about that disaster: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/443213in.html
I don't see what Clinton had to do with it, but everyone could have done more. What does that have to do with...oh wait "DRINK!"... the fact that FEMA was gutted under Bush?
and this little gem here:

Republicans kill terrorist, democrats kill Americans.

is just vintage clirus!
tulc(thinking of starting a file of "clirusisms")

 

[Nathan Poe]

Response
The key problem with the Atheistic liberal news media is that they do not have a Code of Ethics and no accountability.

Congress should demand that the news media establish a Code of Ethics and a method of accountability.

And who would enforce such a "code of ethics" and demand "Accountability"? Our current administration?

I didn't know you did comedy, cirus.

The first item on the Code of Ethics should be that Anonymous Sources will not be used and that every news story should be confirmed by at least two sources. I will not go further unless you are interested.

I am interested, and while no "official" code of conduct exists, most respectable news sources already follow these guidlines to a point: Confirmation is required, and anonymous sources are taken with a grain of salt -- until they are confirmed.

There is the occasional exception, but one should not mistake carelessness for malice. One might think you're paranoid.

Accountability should take the form of a review board of news media and government officials that evaluate violations of the Code of Ethics and establishes monetary awards, to be paid by the news organization, to those proving a violation of the Code of Ethics.

An interesting idea, but I'm not so sure about the government officials being a part of such a board -- it reeks of government control over media, and it raises the same question of who watches the watchdogs?

The person that found the superscript error in the Dan Rather forged documents should have been given at least a $10,000 award.

I'd reserve the reward until the person was able to determine who forged the documents in the first place.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Response
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Heat_Wave_of_ ... In July 1995, a Heat wave in Chicago, Illinois led to approximately 739 heat-related deaths over a period of five days. It is now considered to be one of the worst weather-related disasters in Illinois history. This occurred during the Clinton Administration.

I've got a novel idea: Let's actually read the Wikipedia article:

Most of the heat wave victims were the elderly poor living in the heart of the city, who either had no working air conditioning or could not afford to turn it on. Many older citizens were also hesitant to open windows and doors at night for fear of crime. Elderly women, who may have been more socially engaged, were less vulnerable than elderly men. By contrast, during the heat waves of the 1930s, many residents slept outside in the parks or along the shore of Lake Michigan.

Sounds to me like most of the victims of the '95 heat wave died privately in their own homes. I'm not sure what you'd expect Clinton or FEMA to have done about that, seeing as how at the time, Federal agents certainly had no authority to enter people's houses without any suspicion -- an oversight you'll be happy to note that the Bush regime is correcting.