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But the best part of the only type of medicine that should be used that is called alrenative is there are never negative side effects.EVER

Wrong. It often has serious financial side effects. It can be dangerous and lethal too, if you forgo real treatment due to believing in claims by random conmen that you're better off practically taking placebos.

Peter :)
 
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Wrong. It often has serious financial side effects. It can be dangerous and lethal too, if you forgo real treatment due to believing in claims by random conmen that you're better off practically taking placebos.

Peter :)
Practically? Homeopathic "medicine" is ultradiluted water. The only benefit that can be had is the placebo effect. It's a pointless endeavor.
 
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Practically? Homeopathic "medicine" is ultradiluted water. The only benefit that can be had is the placebo effect. It's a pointless endeavor.

"Practically" because there is a big difference between placebos and homeopathic medicine; The price.

Peter :)
 
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:sigh:

And we wonder why disease is rampant :doh: :doh:
Carey, you do realize that homeopathic "medicine" is so dilute that it doesn't even contain anything other than water. It violates common sense and even a small bit of reason. I'm not saying this because I want you to get sick, I'm saying this because I don't want you to spend money on something that comes out of the tap.

About the best thing you can do for your overall health is to exercise daily, eat in moderation, and wash your hands with warm, soapy water after using the bathroom and before handling food. I've ran experiments with bacteria cultures and soap kills them better than most anything.
 
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Infectious diseases spreading faster thanever: U.N. ...
GENEVA (Reuters) - Infectious diseases are emerging more quickly and spreading faster around the globe than ever and becoming increasingly difficult to ...
www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL227320420... - 68k

Didn't you read the article? The emergence and spread of disease is due to travel:

"With billions of people moving around the planet every year, the U.N. agency said in its annual World Health Report: "An outbreak or epidemic in one part of the world is only a few hours away from becoming an imminent threat somewhere else.""

Hmmm . . .
 
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Carey, you do realize that homeopathic "medicine" is so dilute that it doesn't even contain anything other than water. It violates common sense and even a small bit of reason. I'm not saying this because I want you to get sick, I'm saying this because I don't want you to spend money on something that comes out of the tap.

About the best thing you can do for your overall health is to exercise daily, eat in moderation, and wash your hands with warm, soapy water after using the bathroom and before handling food. I've ran experiments with bacteria cultures and soap kills them better than most anything.

LOl I have cured my allergies with unprocessed Cocao,acai berry, blueberry, cinnamon, agave, adn almonds in healthy snack/suplement.

It has also cured my sisters fybromayalgia.

Neither of us expected it to do anything it jsut tasted good.

The antioxdant levels are off the charts is why.
 
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Infectious diseases spreading faster thanever: U.N. ...
GENEVA (Reuters) - Infectious diseases are emerging more quickly and spreading faster around the globe than ever and becoming increasingly difficult to ...
www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL227320420... - 68k
Hmm, it's almost like that article is suggesting that the cause for this isn't a failure of medicine, but an increase in the population and ease of travel. I guess that it's a good thing that these diseases can be treated better today than in the past.

Oh, and hypothetical scenario Casey:
You have cancer, do you go with homeopathy or chemotherapy? No, you can't do a combination for this exercise. Which do you pick?
 
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LOl I have cured my allergies with unprocessed Cocao,acai berry, blueberry, cinnamon, agave, adn almonds in healthy snack/suplement.

It has also cured my sisters fybromayalgia.

Neither of us expected it to do anything it jsut tasted good.

The antioxdant levels are off the charts is why.
I never claimed that antioxidants are bad for you. Go ahead and eat them all you want. I'm talking about super-dilute 'drugs' that supposedly work better than an actual prescription.

Edit: By the way, my allergies don't bother me anymore either. I used to take medicine for it, but it's no longer an issue. Can I claim that this is from modern medicine? I sure didn't change my diet because of it.
 
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Hmm, it's almost like that article is suggesting that the cause for this isn't a failure of medicine, but an increase in the population and ease of travel. I guess that it's a good thing that these diseases can be treated better today than in the past.

Oh, and hypothetical scenario Casey:
You have cancer, do you go with homeopathy or chemotherapy? No, you can't do a combination for this exercise. Which do you pick?


Lets see my best friend Bob had throat cancer.

The first time he had surgery and Chemo it went into remission he had terrible side effects.

He came back years later and he said he wouold rather die than go through it again so he went to an alterantive medicine place in Mexico.
All he did was colonics, drink Juice and water and exercise for months.
It went into remission and has stayed in remission for twice as many years as the first time from the western medicine quackery and he has had no side effects except he feels better than he did before he got cancer.

So guess which I will pick??
 
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I never claimed that antioxidants are bad for you. Go ahead and eat them all you want. I'm talking about super-dilute 'drugs' that supposedly work better than an actual prescription.

Edit: By the way, my allergies don't bother me anymore either. I used to take medicine for it, but it's no longer an issue. Can I claim that this is from modern medicine? I sure didn't change my diet because of it.


Mine went away within 10 days of daily consumption of this healthy Chocolate.

I took shots for years when I was a kid and they eventually went away but cane back.
 
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Lets see my best friend Bob had throat cancer.

The first time he had surgery and Chemo it went into remission he had terrible side effects.

He came back years later and he said he wouold rather die than go through it again so he went to an alterantive medicine place in Mexico.
All he did was colonics, drink Juice and water and exercise for months.
It went into remission and has stayed in remission for twice as many years as the first time from the western medicine quackery and he has had no side effects except he feels better than he did before he got cancer.

So guess which I will pick??
Both of my grandparents had a cancer scare in the last couple of years. They found competent doctors and both are cancer free. Is my anecdote worth more because it's two people?

As for allergies, if they come back, I'll worry about it then. I just provided a counter-example to show that there may be other causes than homeopathy. But chocolate does sound good.
 
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Both of my grandparents had a cancer scare in the last couple of years. They found competent doctors and both are cancer free. Is my anecdote worth more because it's two people?

As for allergies, if they come back, I'll worry about it then. I just provided a counter-example to show that there may be other causes than homeopathy. But chocolate does sound good.

It all is common sense really.

If bad stuff goes in we have to get it out.

Free radicals from what we consume and what we are exposed too.

Must be offset in the same way.

If we alter nature we will have to pay back nature with a side effect.

Cause and effect. The Natural alws Yahweh layed down.

He created the human body to run on certain fuels and alternative fuels will break down the machine that carries our soul around for a short time.

And yes nasty bitter cocao is yummy if mixed with berries , nuts and agave :clap:
 
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It all is common sense really.

If bad stuff goes in we have to get it out.

Free radicals from what we consume and what we are exposed too.

Must be offset in the same way.

I agree that anti-oxidants are important in the prevention of cancer. What I really doubt is that homeopathic methods can CURE cancer. Using anti-oxidants to cure cancer is like closing the barn door after the cows have left.

What is the mechanism of action for the homeopathic cancer treatments?
 
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It all is common sense really.

If bad stuff goes in we have to get it out.

Free radicals from what we consume and what we are exposed too.

Must be offset in the same way.

If we alter nature we will have to pay back nature with a side effect.

Cause and effect. The Natural alws Yahweh layed down.

He created the human body to run on certain fuels and alternative fuels will break down the machine that carries our soul around for a short time.

And yes nasty bitter cocao is yummy if mixed with berries , nuts and agave :clap:
I've really got to go with Loudmouth on this one. Can you even think of a way that these could do anything within the body other than provide some marginal anti-oxidants and sugar? Are there some "special" compounds that only exist when they are all combined together in some sort of mockery of chocolate? Is there a synergy of the different "energies" within the berries, agave, and ground cacao beans?

I've known people that used homeopathic remedies too. I've attended those funerals.
 
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Part of the problem here is differing definitions of homeopathic.
Antioxidents are not homeopathic, they are nutrients found in food. Homeopathic was the concept that "like cures like", by putting in some sort of substance (often poisoness), and then diluting it out to a very small amount. Of course, the idea preceded the advent of modern chemistry and the understanding of molecules. When you dilute a solution, by removing 1/100 of it, and replacing the rest with water, and do so 30 times (as often the procedure), you reduce the molecules of the original substance by 1 times 10 to the minus 60! In other words, much much less then the number of molecules you began with . . .in other words, all of them.

Homepathic practiciners (sp) ignored this fact for nearly a hundred years. It is only recently that they have owned up to it and started creating some silly theories to get around it, such as that the water molecules themselves remember what substance used to be in it.

Antioxidents are found in food. They can be and are heavily studied through modern medical practice which means controlled studies. They certainly provide many benefits.

 
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