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So you believe Zeus and Yahweh are both equally valid options? You can't deduce any important differences in the nature of their being or in the nature of the faiths they give? People don't even believe in Zeus anymore, so why would you choose some lightning god over a God who people have believed in for more than 4,000 years?Allah, Vishnu, Krishna, Zeus, Bondye, etc...
Prove that the God of Abraham does not exist.
- No anecdotes (personal events)
- No long commentaries.
- Use scientific evidence.
- Preaching is not evidence, but simply restating your claim.
- No circular logic. (Bible is true because it says so.)
Yeah, ain't it cool?These threads will continue till the end of the age.
"Face it, you wouldn't believe in Allah, or Buddha, or Kali, or Krishna unless they appeared right in front of you. That's the only evidence you would accept: Obviously a complex universe fine tuned for our extraordinary existence isn't enough for you. No one convinced me they existed with argumentation or empirical evidence, but I simply read His word and followed Him as a sheep follows his shepherd."
- How do you know what I'll believe?
- Same can be said for other religions.
- Yes, if he did reveal himself, that would be evidence. But that is not necessary for me. All I need is scientic evidence, nothing more, nothing less.
Not in mine... Feelings are subjective: Truth is objective. You either have your mind enlightened to believe it or you're kept in darkness.is having a feeling, presence come over you when in prayer, a sermon, or just stopping and thanking him or having appreciation for what you see...is that proof in your eyes?
Not in mine... Feelings are subjective: Truth is objective. You either have your mind enlightened to believe it or you're kept in darkness.
- No anecdotes (personal events)
- No long commentaries.
- Use scientific evidence.
- Preaching is not evidence, but simply restating your claim.
- No circular logic. (Bible is true because it says so.)
These threads will continue till the end of the age.
He said he was going to come back tomorrow.I think the captain has abandoned the ship.....
Then offer your evidence....within your own constraints of course....Allah, Vishnu, Krishna, Zeus, Bondye, etc...
"Face it, you wouldn't believe in Allah, or Buddha, or Kali, or Krishna unless they appeared right in front of you. That's the only evidence you would accept: Obviously a complex universe fine tuned for our extraordinary existence isn't enough for you. No one convinced me they existed with argumentation or empirical evidence, but I simply read His word and followed Him as a sheep follows his shepherd."
- How do you know what I'll believe?
- Same can be said for other religions.
- Yes, if he did reveal himself, that would be evidence. But that is not necessary for me. All I need is scientic evidence, nothing more, nothing less.
"Face it, you wouldn't believe in Allah, or Buddha, or Kali, or Krishna unless they appeared right in front of you. That's the only evidence you would accept: Obviously a complex universe fine tuned for our extraordinary existence isn't enough for you. No one convinced me they existed with argumentation or empirical evidence, but I simply read His word and followed Him as a sheep follows his shepherd."
- How do you know what I'll believe?
- Same can be said for other religions.
- Yes, if he did reveal himself, that would be evidence. But that is not necessary for me. All I need is scientic evidence, nothing more, nothing less.
If scientific only evidence you seek, which is materialism, perhaps take a visit to Turin and examine the shroud for yourself.
We have a CF member who like you wanted physical evidence of the divine. @Vicomte13 will dialogue with you if you are willing to be receptive.
Let me ask you this, if I was a Muslim and I told you that my god was true and I did not present any evidence, what would you say?
Another one of these? Good grief.
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