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Those appear to be the effects of religion.Churches, holidays, organizations, bumper stickers, decals, iconography, hymns, carols, martyrs, and time depicted as BC/AD.
If you don't accept that as evidence/proof, consider this:
We know gravity exists, not because we can see it, but because we can see its effects.
The effects of "the Abrahamic god" are everywhere.
and according to a basic law of logic, anything that has a beginning is an effect.
Cause and Effect?Back at it again? Mind telling us which law of logic you're referring to?
Cause and Effect?
Okay.He said logical law, not physical law. Also if he had used "physical law" he'd still be wrong, as I've shown in the past.
Causality.
Yes, it is an extension of the law of non-contradiction, look it up in a book on logic.
The law of causality is analytically true. IOW true by definition or analysis. It is a logical extension of the law of non-contradiction. Self creation or causation is formally falsified. It fails the test of logical analysis. For something to create itself it must defy the law of non-contradiction. It must both be and not at the same time and in the same relationship.You are given the following:
Not (X and not X).
Now please define how causality is represented in the language of logic, and use the assumption given to deduce the causality that you have yet to define.
The law of causality is analytically true.
IOW true by definition
or analysis.
It is a logical extension of the law of non-contradiction.
Self creation or causation is formally falsified. It fails the test of logical analysis. For something to create itself it must defy the law of non-contradiction. It must both be and not at the same time and in the same relationship.
Yes, but a true tautology.ed: IOW true by definition
nv: So you mean it's a tautology?
ed: or analysis.
nv: Please share the analysis.
ed: It is a logical extension of the law of non-contradiction.
nv: Can you show this logical extension?[/qutoe]
It is an axiomatic corollary of the law of non-contradiction.
Yes, it does, it shows that it is an axiomatic corollary of the law of non-contradiction.ed: Self creation or causation is formally falsified. It fails the test of logical analysis. For something to create itself it must defy the law of non-contradiction. It must both be and not at the same time and in the same relationship.
nv: You are now talking about something different. You have abandoned the issue at hand. Just because something logically cannot cause itself to exist doesn't make causality a logical law. That's like saying that nothing can logically preceed the Big Bang, therefore time is a logical law.
Because every effect requires a cause.
Has science prove God exists?
- No anecdotes (personal events)
- No long commentaries.
- Use scientific evidence.
- Preaching is not evidence, but simply restating your claim.
- No circular logic. (Bible is true because it says so.)
There is a great ignorance here. Allah is the God of Abraham and the earth and the sky and everything in between. The other ones you name were either Allah's names in other languages and religions or completely fabricated false "gods"..Allah, Vishnu, Krishna, Zeus, Bondye, etc...
There is a great ignorance here. Allah is the God of Abraham and the earth and the sky and everything in between. The other ones you name were either Allah's names in other languages and religions or completely fabricated false "gods"..
They certainly can. And are. What they are telling you is that they can never be a Muslim.How can you be even a Christian then?
There is indeed a great ignorance here.
Christians are not to take the name of God in vein. <Snip>
God is not a man that he should lie.God is to potent to mainline.
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