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Perhaps you would do better to not take my statement out of context and therefore misrepresent me:Whenever a person says they never do anything it automatically makes that statement false.
I am not and am never deliberately disrespectful towards theists in a serious discussion or debate.
I notice you keep speaking of honesty.
Tell us, how do you account for this immaterial idea of honesty?
I notice you keep speaking of honesty.
Tell us, how do you account for this immaterial idea of honesty?
The posts are there on the thread. Read them.
Is this your "everything in your view is subject to interpretation" that you think my view entails? Newsflash - it doesn't.
How have I disrespected you or anyone else?
If by disrespect, you mean me telling you that your views are wrong, then how is this disrespect? Do you not maintain that Christian views are wrong?
No, I take a dim view of anyone who does it.I assure you if I agreed with what you said, you would not charge me with disrespect.
Because even if it happens to be true, you've done a crap job demonstrating that it is. That's been our point all along, "apologist".It is a stupid bit of evidence because that is your opinion Gadarene.
If what I say is true, then why do you not accept it as true?
Good job I talked about ridiculing your attitudes and not you, then isn't it?If it is disrespect, then what does ridiculing accomplish?
How is ridiculing someone help your position?
This is what Richard Dawkins called for in his march for reason in Washington and many secular thinkers took issue with him because of this.
If you ridicule anything, then ridicule the idea, don't attack the person supporting the idea. And when you ridicule the idea, be sure to have a good reason for doing so or it becomes an exercise in futility for you and is diminished to an emotive reaction.
Just tell me how you account for your idea of honesty, that is all I am asking.
You keep talking about honesty, I would expect for you to be able to give an account for it.
Is honesty and truth synonymous? Truth has an objective sense to its usage, honesty is much more subjective and depends upon the integrity and intention of the speaker. Truth is debatable, honesty is not debatable, it relies upon the intention of the individual.
No, I am not afraid of Darth Vader.
Why not?
Because I do not fear man whose breath is in his nostrils, and who, after killing the body, can do no more; but God who has the ability to cast both body and soul into hell.
That is very gracious of youOriginally Posted by SkavauIt isn't "my" behaviour and yet Elioenai is treating me (amongst others) with it. I am not and am never deliberately disrespectful towards theists in a serious discussion or debate. I say somewhat harsh things about what they believe but it is not done to antagonise or mock but to make specific points in favour of what I am arguing.
Elioenai however prefers to misrepresent what atheists say to him time and time again. He does this indiscriminately whether or not an atheist has actually wronged him or not.
I am not and am never deliberately disrespectful
I see you are angry and your words are evidence of this.Stop with the fake attitude. You know precisely what the problem is.
It isn't that you claim my views are wrong.
It is that you have repeatedly and intentionally lied about what my views actually are.
No, I take a dim view of anyone who does it.
And apparently you still haven't learned that putting words in the mouths of others isn't a good idea.
Because even if it happens to be true, you've done a crap job demonstrating that it is. That's been our point all along, "apologist".
Good job I talked about ridiculing your attitudes and not you, then isn't it?
As for good reasons, your repeated lies about atheists are a great example.
(Cue the same fake-innocent "but Mr Gadarene, where have I told lies" crap)
I see you are angry and your words are evidence of this.
But tell me, how have I intentionally lied about you. If you are unable to bear witness of the lies then you in fact are lying in saying that I have, and therefore prove yourself to be the very thing you accuse me of.
I know I have not lied in anything I have said in these posts, so your emotional outcries of dishonesty are simply untrue.
I don't want to see any more accusations that we aren't interested in truth,
God is truth.
All on this website are free to worship God. God is good.
What about the cornerstone of the foundation built upon the Lord JesusFine, I retract that it's lying. You're obviously well-inured with this foolish idea that you know the truth about us better than we ourselves do, so you at least believe it to be true, however shaky a foundation it is based on.
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And as soon as you lot have proven that and we concede their validity, your accusations of disinterest in truth will hold.
What about the cornerstone of the foundation built upon the Lord Jesus
Gods word is eternal truth.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Try science on it, you have the claim. Believe. Whole heartedly. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.
Fine, I retract that it's lying. You're obviously well-inured with this foolish idea that you know the truth about us better than we ourselves do, so you at least believe it to be true, however shaky a foundation it is based on.
Your actions are still bad form though, and not conducive to good debate, so I still want you to cut it the heck out and an apology. I don't want to see any more accusations that we aren't interested in truth, or claims that atheism is what it isn't.
I already did, and I was.
Cue next platitude.
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