Proof science is inspired

[dad]

It is well known that science is not about the spiritual. It is about the physical only. It uses principles like 'the present is the key to the past'. It works with laws that exist now only. These sort of things form the basis of all that science is and is all about.


The chief instigator of such ideas is and always has been Satan. Here is Jesus speaking...


Mr 8:33 -... Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.




In trying to get man to look to himself and the present realities only, and laws, God is ignored and all things spiritual. This is the heart of science.


1Co 3:19 -For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.


Present state science then is foolishness to God, who knows the big picture.


Science then is a tool to keep men and children from God. It is a focus only on this present world, and any 'looking' at the world to come or the world that was is solely based on this world!



2Co 4:4 -In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Knowing this, then, science needs to severely be put in it's place!

 

[AV1611VET]

In trying to get man to look to himself and the present realities only, and laws, God is ignored and all things spiritual. This is the heart of science.

I agree and disagree with this, dad.

I believe God gives us scientists for two reasons:

1. To make our lives easier and healthier until He returns.
2. To assist Israel in becoming and persevering as a nation.

But today, instead of doing this in the name of God, people have jettisoned God out of the picture and actually use science against Him and His Word.

Science started out as pure wheat; but the tares are now outgrowing the wheat as this dispensation comes to a close.

 

[The Engineer]

I don't see any proof in this thread. Just some bible verses.

 

[jayem]

Of course science deals with the here and now. It won't and can't explain the hereafter. What proof is there of any kind of hereafter?

 

[dad]

I agree and disagree with this, dad.

I believe God gives us scientists for two reasons:

1. To make our lives easier and healthier until He returns.
2. To assist Israel in becoming and persevering as a nation.

But today, instead of doing this in the name of God, people have jettisoned God out of the picture and actually use science against Him and His Word.

Science started out as pure wheat; but the tares are now outgrowing the wheat as this dispensation comes to a close.

Ha. Well as I said in some thread lately, we ought to differentiate between science and the stuff that claims to be science falsely that claims to tell us of the deep past. I think man's wisdom is a good term for actual knowledge and wisdom that is real and works in this present world. THAT is what does ANYTHING anywhere! Yes, I agree that God inspires some men and that we can get the good with the bad in wisdom available to man!

Of course God guides history and events and sets the limits and the rules.

 

[HitchSlap]

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but satan and boogeymen don't really exist.



But you already knew that.

 

[dad]

I don't see any proof in this thread. Just some bible verses.

You admit the syuff about science in the OP...where is basically is coming from?

 

[dad]

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but satan and boogeymen don't really exist.



But you already knew that.

You know this....how???

 

[serge546]

Cool story. Still don't care what the bible thinks about science.

 

[dad]

Of course science deals with the here and now.

Thank you for admitting that!!!!!!!!!! That is what Satan is all about.

It won't and can't explain the hereafter. What proof is there of any kind of hereafter?

Of course not....not when it only deals with the now!

 

[AV1611VET]

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but satan and boogeymen don't really exist.

You mean since none show up in your test tubes, telescopes or microscopes, they don't exist?

Until you can build a machine that can do this ...

2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

... I'll take your point with a grain of salt.

 

[driewerf]

It is well known that science is not about the spiritual.

correct

It is about the physical only.

correct

It uses principles like 'the present is the key to the past'.

correct

It works with laws that exist now only.

False. You have been shown so many times that your diffenrent state past is nonsense, that this statement can be qaulified as "deliberatly and knowingly spreading untruths."

The chief instigator of such ideas is and always has been Satan.

If that is the case (but ist isn't) then all hail to Satan.

 

[HitchSlap]

You know this....how???

Zero evidence.

 

[Elendur]

You mean since none show up in your test tubes, telescopes or microscopes, they don't exist?

Until you can build a machine that can do this ...

2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

... I'll take your point with a grain of salt.

Until you can demonstrate that anything can do that ...

... I'll take your point with a grain of salt.

 

[AV1611VET]

Until you can demonstrate that anything can do that ...

... I'll take your point with a grain of salt.

Fair enough ... just don't call what HitchSlap believes (that Satan doesn't exist) 'science' and what I believe (that Satan does exist) 'religion' and expect me to agree.

 

[serge546]

You mean since none show up in your test tubes, telescopes or microscopes, they don't exist?

Until you can build a machine that can do this ...

2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

... I'll take your point with a grain of salt.

Considering science restores vision to thousands of people on a daily basis, instead of a few people in some obscure region in the world two thousand years ago (if it even happened, by the way).... Yeah I'll listen to scientists over your bible any day.

 

[AV1611VET]

Considering science restores vision to thousands of people on a daily basis, instead of a few people in some obscure region in the world two thousand years ago (if it even happened, by the way).... Yeah I'll listen to scientists over your bible any day.

Just because science restores vision to thousands of people on a daily basis, it doesn't give anyone a right to tell us Satan doesn't exist.

 

[Elendur]

Fair enough ... just don't call what HitchSlap believes (that Satan doesn't exist) 'science' and what I believe (that Satan does exist) 'religion' and expect me to agree.

Since when has science dabbled in the supernatural?

I'll settle for nr 2, to call what you believe (that satan does exist) religion.

 

[AV1611VET]

Since when has science dabbled in the supernatural?

Mainly through the '70s, when the New Age movement made a big splash.

Science tested many things, from ESP to clairvoyance.

 

[Elendur]

Mainly through the '70s, when the New Age movement made a big splash.

Science tested many things, from ESP to clairvoyance.

Tested them, yes. The results were rather natural if I recall correctly.