Professing to be wise, they became fools

[versastyle]

John do you know who the frequent poster Neo is? You remind me of the way he acts. I do not see the glory of God in anything that he says (because he is an atheist), and I am having a very hard time in finding it in you. Perhaps, we might want to soften our tone and irritation a bit, perhaps take a walk in the park or read a good ole-fashioned Mary Poppins books..or maybe something to help calm those nerves?

 

[Mistermystery]

Still waiting for what?

A post of +1500 words quotemined to 3 words.

 

[Ishmael Borg]

I have the time and I can get the knowledge to defend my claim. I do not have time for people who want to waste my time with nonsense. I am not going to do free research for people, let them learn how to do their own research. If you want someone to spoon feed you, then go to the university and pay someone to do just that. I am not going to spoon feed people for free.

Nice cop-out. I don't use ignore lists, so I'm not making a threat here, but you beg to be ignored. You really don't appear to have the cognitive skills necessary to productively participate in a discussion forum. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, I wish you would just go away.

My wife and I are very giving people. But there is a limit to what we can do for others. God has blessed us and we want to share those blessings with others. But it reaches a point where your hindering people, when you are doing for them what they really need to be doing for themselves.

Who cares, John. Your pomposity is sickening.

 

[Larry]

Still waiting for what? For me to teach you about wisdom? I think you need to study it and learn it on your own. A good place to start would be with solomon, he teaches a lot on wisdom and what it is. Just run a search using the key word wisdom in your Bible and read the passages that come up.

No, John. Still waiting for your reply to the below post.

BTW, you are not my teacher. You are quite egotistical and pompous to even think you are. And, from everything I've seen in your posts, you're the one who needs to get off the lecturn, sit your butt down, and learn something yourself.

Your original theme was that scientific knowledge equates to the 'wisdom' in your OP.

My claim, backed by the below re-posted statements, says you are flat wrong.

Answer the below remarks, Mr High & Mighty.



"Professing to be wise....". What kind of wisdom are we talking about? Could it be the wisdom of math? No. Could it be the wisdom of linguistics? No. Could it be the wisdom of science? No. Could it be the wisdom of auto mechanics? No. Could it be the wisdom of indoor plumbing? No. Could it be the wisdom of aerodynamics? No.

So, what kind of 'wisdom' are we talking about? Let's not assume things, and go right to scripture, specifically those parts you overlooked and ommitted.

Here's the set-up.

"16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "The just shall live by faith." 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened."

Apparently, they were not glorifying God, their thoughts became futile, and their hearts became darkened, (turned away from God). They became more reliant on their own moral and spiritual standards...basically living by their own philosophy, instead of living by God's standards, and trying to justify their lifestyle by trying to make God fit their views and moral standards.


Thus......

"22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."

Moral and spiritual decay, plain and simple.



And, here's the defining moment for exactly what 'wisdom' scripture is talking about.....

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

So, like I've been saying all along, the 'wisdom' which is spoken of, is all about spirituality, morality and living the way God wants us to. It has nothing to do with non-spiritual or non-moral issues such as science, auto mechanics, indoor plumbing, math, linguistics, cooking, or any other knowledge along these lines.

 

[Obertray]

http://www.gennet.org/facts/metro21.html

Oh man, that was hilarious. I mean, it was extremely stupid, but hilarious nonetheless.

 

[JohnR7]

Matthew 12:38-42
Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." [39] But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. [40] For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [41] The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. [42] The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.

 

[Gracchus]

Matthew 12:38-42
Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." [39] But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. [40] For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [41] The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. [42] The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.

Greater than Solomon, aren't you, JohnR7? What I really like most about you is your humility. It is your most notable Christian virtue. Of course your non-reply also saves you all the trouble of actually trying to support your falsehoods. That would really cramp your style.

 

[JohnR7]

Greater than Solomon, aren't you, JohnR7?

The very least in the Kingdom of God is greater than Solomon, because we have the mind of Christ.

Luke 7:28
For I say to you, among those born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."

Luke 11:31
The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them,
for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.

If you were alive in the days of Jesus, would you have accepted or rejected Him?

 

[Gracchus]

The very least in the Kingdom of God is greater than Solomon, because we have the mind of Christ.

But you have never demonstrated any mind at all worth the name, and certainly not that you are in the "Kingdom of God". Or have you emigrated?

If you were alive in the days of Jesus, would you have accepted or rejected Him?

I would probably never have heard of him. He never got really popular until professing Christianity could get you a government job.

 

[JohnR7]

certainly not that you are in the "Kingdom of God".

To be a part of the Kingdom of God means that you make God "King" in your life. As Jesus said, not my will, but Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven. You see, God's will is already being done in Heaven, but here on Earth we still have a choice if we are going to follow His will for us and our lives.

The main thing is to live right before God and to seek to live the life that God is calling us to live. Then we will be a part of the Kingdom.

 

[P4g4nite]

Whoops I seem to have stumbled into the being preached at section, either that or this thread is in the wrong place.
Suggested relocation to : rubbish bin