Problems with Heliocentrism

[Armoured]

So the Sun doesn't undergo nuclear fusion. So what?

So it wouldn't produce heat nor light.

 

[JohnMartin]

Hi Brother, Why did the roman church accept Copernicus' model?

Officially the Papal condemnations against Galileos moving earth theory still stand. John Paul II's statements about the incident are merely his own personal opinions on the matter made to the PAS. The RC remains officially tied to the stationary earth as a truth revealed in scripture and the church fathers.

JM

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Officially the Papal condemnations against Galileos moving earth theory still stand. John Paul II's statements about the incident are merely his own personal opinions on the matter made to the PAS. The RC remains officially tied to the stationary earth as a truth revealed in scripture and the church fathers.

JM

Do they teach Copernicus' model in catholic schools?

 

[JohnMartin]

Do they teach Copernicus' model in catholic schools?

Yes, but Catholic schools are notoriously unfaithful to the official Catholic line on many matters on faith and morals.

JM

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Yes, but Catholic schools are notoriously unfaithful to the official Catholic line on many matters on faith and morals.

JM

Ok thanks JM.

 

[lesliedellow]

Newtonian mechanics is only a model. Nobody has even proven gravity acts the way Newtonian mechanics assumes it acts.

You are joking. I just know you are joking. How do we get satellites in orbit, how do we send probes to Mars, how do we send probes to Jupiter, how did we get men to the Moon, if all our calculations were done on the basis of an erroneous theory of gravity?

 

[lesliedellow]

Yes, but Catholic schools are notoriously unfaithful to the official Catholic line on many matters on faith and morals.

JM

Oh, I see. So the Vatican Observatory is fully signed up to geocentrism, is it? I bet that comes as news to George Coyne.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

You are joking. I just know you are joking. How do we get satellites in orbit, how do we send probes to Mars, how do we send probes to Jupiter, how did we get men to the Moon, if all our calculations were done on the basis of an erroneous theory of gravity?

NASA lies and Photoshop skills and Stanley Kubrick lunar models and light filming skills.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Oh, I see. So the Vatican Observatory is fully signed up to geocentrism, is it? I bet that comes as news to George Coyne.

Their jesuit telescope is called lucifer.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

http://freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/famous/masonic-astronauts/

Freemasons fooled you.

 

[lesliedellow]

NASA lies and Photoshop skills and Stanley Kubrick models and light filming skills.

If NASA is lying, I suppose there are no GPS satellites in orbit, which your cars satnav relies on. I suppose their are no communication satellites in orbit, so you can't have live news coverage from Europe and elsewhere. Besides which, the Americans aren't the only ones who put things into space. The European Space Agency, the Russians and the Chinese would have to be in on the big bad conspiracy, as well.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

If NASA is lying, I suppose there are no GPS satellites in orbit, which your cars satnav relies on. I suppose their are no communication satellites in orbit, so you can't have live news coverage from Europe and elsewhere. Besides which, the Americans aren't the only ones who put things into space. The European Space Agency, the Russians and the Chinese would have to be in on the big bad conspiracy, as well.

Brother, no point arguing with you. You have done no flat earth research.

Come back when you're educated.

 

[lesliedellow]

Brother, no point arguing with you. You have done no flat earth research.

Come back when you're educated.

So it's bury your head in the sand time. If I didn't know better, I would say that you and the ostrich must have a common evolutionary ancestor.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

So it's bury your head in the sand time. If I didn't know better, I would say that you and the ostrich must have a common evolutionary ancestor.

I've heard all your arguments.

All the best, comeback when you get your head out of satan's lies.

We just had a massive debate.

And you refuse to look at anything FE related. So all the best.

 

[PsychoSarah]

NASA lies and Photoshop skills and Stanley Kubrick lunar models and light filming skills.

-_- sir, you can see satellites when it is dark enough outside on a clear night. Furthermore, just NASA? You do understand that dozens of countries have put up satellites, right? Not to mention the various businesses that use them for broadcasting purposes. I not only ask why all these different governments, some of which are enemies, would all be in on some cover-up that no satellite has ever been put into orbit, but these private businesses as well?

Satellites predate photoshop by decades, sir. DECADES. Do you even understand how many resources would have to be wasted to keep up this ruse for more than 50 years? It's not only ridiculous, but it isn't even feasible to accomplish it. Do you understand that so many people would have to be involved as to make keeping this secret entirely impossible? They made not one error to give themselves away to the masses in this long? I'm sorry, but you overestimate the competence of your own species and the scope of our capabilities.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

-_- sir, you can see satellites when it is dark enough outside on a clear night. Furthermore, just NASA? You do understand that dozens of countries have put up satellites, right? Not to mention the various businesses that use them for broadcasting purposes. I not only ask why all these different governments, some of which are enemies, would all be in on some cover-up that no satellite has ever been put into orbit, but these private businesses as well?

Satellites predate photoshop by decades, sir. DECADES. Do you even understand how many resources would have to be wasted to keep up this ruse for more than 50 years? It's not only ridiculous, but it isn't even feasible to accomplish it. Do you understand that so many people would have to be involved as to make keeping this secret entirely impossible? They made not one error to give themselves away to the masses in this long? I'm sorry, but you overestimate the competence of your own species and the scope of our capabilities.

Have you done FE research?

Yes or No?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Brother, no point arguing with you. You have done no flat earth research.

Come back when you're educated.

For personal interest, I have invested time into looking into various flat Earth proposals. Points for creativity on some of them, but most rely on misunderstanding aspects of the round Earth model, and don't explain many observed phenomena.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

For personal interest, I have invested time into looking into various flat Earth proposals. Points for creativity on some of them, but most rely on misunderstanding aspects of the round Earth model, and don't explain many observed phenomena.

Do you believe that people and governments lie? If so keep researching.

 

[pitabread]

If any of you are interested in seeing John Martin's body of work, I'd suggest checking out his posts to Theology Web. He's got a long history of geocentrism there.

Seriously? An honest-for-real geocentrist? Wild.

 

[JohnMartin]

You are joking. I just know you are joking. How do we get satellites in orbit, how do we send probes to Mars, how do we send probes to Jupiter, how did we get men to the Moon, if all our calculations were done on the basis of an erroneous theory of gravity?

All of the above can be done with more than one notion of gravity. The success of sending probes to other planets does not prove gravity is either the attraction of the masses or a bending of the space time continuum.

JM