problems from my church

jameshjr said:

Hello there Christ servant, thank you for the message. we are all sinners and disobey God, but there is a gay couple whom have been attending the church since i have been there (two years) and no one has said anything to them about it or mentioned it to them. that to me is irresponsible, and is a red flag to me.

I agree with your points about people loving the world whilst loving God. however, we did have a sermon about the body of christ on sunday and i wonder if it is a natural order for some people to be more obewdient of Gods word than others. for example: i a read my bible (wityh exceptions) every day and am reading it more and more as time passes. now i would not be even slightly suprised that many of the people at my church read it once or month or even at all.

Now i am not going to say that this is evidence that they are unsaved or anything like that. and like i say some body parts have more glory than others and some of us in heaven will have more glory than others and i wonder to what degree this differing levels in faith is intentional.

I also wonder if people whom are called to be more 'in' the word of God, by the fact of them being in the word of God and that itself being evidence that they should take more of a leadership role or speak up more on issues at their church and with other more worldly christians.

I have also heard a lot recently about sin and how over time there will be more and more sin and therefore this in itself could explain the seemingly ever increasing insanity and wickedness in the world, which, of course, will penetrate the church (as it is, at the moment, in the world). we are after all always moving towards the end time ( though i am not saying it is soon)

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jameshjr said:

Amen, sister.

He has been attending the church longer than me and i guess i caved into his 'seniority' and i do tend to avoid conflict. i wonder if it is something i should ignore or if i should 'argue' over.

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Hazelelponi said:

@Albion can correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the church of England teach the same thing pretty much as English law?

This may be why nothing is said to them about homosexuality being a sin, because it's legal in England for homosexual couples to marry etc - therefore the official church isn't going to teach it to be sin.

This is why finding a church who has split from the church of England will be more likely to be more conservative on such topics.

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Hazelelponi said:

@Albion can correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the church of England teach the same thing pretty much as English law?

This may be why nothing is said to them about homosexuality being a sin, because it's legal in England for homosexual couples to marry etc - therefore the official church isn't going to teach it to be sin.

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jameshjr said:

Hello all, its been a while, i hope that you are well.

At my church there is a man whom i have gotten close to. I was out walking with him the other day and we got around to talking about God and i asked him if he believed that Jesus is the son of God and he replied that he thought He was "of the spirit". He then went on to say, basically, that if Jesus were the son of God then muslims would be wrong and that would be mean i.e. we all worship the same God. he also rejected pauls writing as having any authority, as he got kicked by a horse and went stupid.

Additionally, my church (it is a church of England church) announced that it is LGBTetc.etc.etc.etc.etc. week or month next month and that we are going to be 'celebrating it', which i have a problem with. i mean as a christian i dont see how you can view homosexuality as anything other than (at best) a delusion. of course i do not want to exclude them from coming to church and view them with compassion, but to not say it is a sin and why it is a sin is irresponsible.

Finally, though there are other things i have noticed, my church is completely in line with the green agenda and wants to become an 'eco-church'. regardless of whether global warming etc is correct or not, are we not supposed to be apart from the culture, so why then is my church getting involved in this when we could be spending that time, money and energy on reaching out to other people.

I guess i wanted to get these things off my chest. let me know if you guys have similar experiences to this and what your opinion is.

God bless,

James.

P.s. is this a C of E problem, or just a church problem. ought i to look for another church?

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