Hi,
I have been thinking a lot about the calvinism vs. arminian debate lately and I must confess I would rather go with total sovereignty.
Now, onto the question.
I find it problematic with the Calvinist view to interpret this passage :
Exodus 32:17 "And the Lord said to Moses, “I will do the very thing you have asked"
How does that fit into the general idea that God set the world into motion according to his divine secret will AND not by taking into account how human will respond or what humans will do ?
Maybe I am mistaken with the Hyper Calvinist point of you.
Is it consistent with regular Calvinism to think that, even though God did not take into account how one would respond to his call, God still took into account that we would ask for this and he would grant it, or we would pray for this and he would grant it.
Surely if I had not prayed for something God might have done differently, correct ?
So God would have foreordained things included my prayers and he would have decided that He would answer this prayer or not at a particular point in time.
The underlying question is : how effective are my prayers ?
Or, is my free will illusory or did God really care in infinity past about what I would ask for ?
Surely the Bible seems to say He loved the Elect from infinity past.
Also, God foreordained his actions with us from eternity past, right ?
I'm sorry if the post seems weird, for I am very confused with tough questions.
I have been thinking a lot about the calvinism vs. arminian debate lately and I must confess I would rather go with total sovereignty.
Now, onto the question.
I find it problematic with the Calvinist view to interpret this passage :
Exodus 32:17 "And the Lord said to Moses, “I will do the very thing you have asked"
How does that fit into the general idea that God set the world into motion according to his divine secret will AND not by taking into account how human will respond or what humans will do ?
Maybe I am mistaken with the Hyper Calvinist point of you.
Is it consistent with regular Calvinism to think that, even though God did not take into account how one would respond to his call, God still took into account that we would ask for this and he would grant it, or we would pray for this and he would grant it.
Surely if I had not prayed for something God might have done differently, correct ?
So God would have foreordained things included my prayers and he would have decided that He would answer this prayer or not at a particular point in time.
The underlying question is : how effective are my prayers ?
Or, is my free will illusory or did God really care in infinity past about what I would ask for ?
Surely the Bible seems to say He loved the Elect from infinity past.
Also, God foreordained his actions with us from eternity past, right ?
I'm sorry if the post seems weird, for I am very confused with tough questions.
