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[Jet_A_Jockey]

Its plain as day...

A person who doesn't believe abortion to be wrong will choose to get one or consider getting one.

A person who believes it compromises the tenets of their faith will choose not to get one.

Um, no, thats not what you said. You said

And if one worships God, they don't get an abortion.

One who isn't a member of a faith or what have you, they don't get an abortion.

Thats why I was kindly telling you that your post did not make sense, possibly due to typographical errors.

So, I doubt you're really reading what I've responded with. As its pretty obvious.

Please don't doubt my ability to read your posts, when its your ability to write them that is in question, my friend.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

sorry, duplicate.

 

[sidnee]

Again, you consider these reasons to be superficial.

I highly doubt if you were a 22 year old female, in the precarious position of weighing abortion as a decision, you'd blow all these reasons off as "superficial".

I'm under 22, female, and pregnant. Getting yourself in a precarious situation does not justify the killing of an unborn child.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Its plain as day...

A person who doesn't believe abortion to be wrong will choose to get one or consider getting one.

A person who believes it compromises the tenets of their faith will choose not to get one.

Um, no, thats not what you said. You said

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quirk
And if one worships God, they don't get an abortion.

One who isn't a member of a faith or what have you, they don't get an abortion.

Thats why I was kindly telling you that your post did not make sense, possibly due to typographical errors.

So, I doubt you're really reading what I've responded with. Please don't doubt my ability to read your posts, when its your ability to write them that is in question, my friend.As its pretty obvious.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Its plain as day...

A person who doesn't believe abortion to be wrong will choose to get one or consider getting one.

A person who believes it compromises the tenets of their faith will choose not to get one.

Um, no, thats not what you said. You said

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quirk
And if one worships God, they don't get an abortion.

One who isn't a member of a faith or what have you, they don't get an abortion.

Thats why I was kindly telling you that your post did not make sense, possibly due to typographical errors.

So, I doubt you're really reading what I've responded with. Please don't doubt my ability to read your posts, when its your ability to write them that is in question, my friend.As its pretty obvious.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Its plain as day...

A person who doesn't believe abortion to be wrong will choose to get one or consider getting one.

A person who believes it compromises the tenets of their faith will choose not to get one.

Um, no, thats not what you said. You said

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quirk
And if one worships God, they don't get an abortion.

One who isn't a member of a faith or what have you, they don't get an abortion.

Thats why I was kindly telling you that your post did not make sense, possibly due to typographical errors.

So, I doubt you're really reading what I've responded with. As its pretty obvious.

Please don't doubt my ability to read your posts, when its your ability to write them that is in question, my friend.

 

[Trashionista]

I'm under 22, female, and pregnant. Getting yourself in a precarious situation does not justify the killing of an unborn child.

Then you choose not to.

Not everyone makes the same choice as you. Not everyone believes the same things you believe - therefore, why should they be held to the same choices after the fact as you? Just because you fall into a very narrow admittedly bracket, doesn't make your case a paradigm for all pregnancy cases, sorry to say.

 

[Trashionista]

Um, no, thats not what you said. You said

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quirk
And if one worships God, they don't get an abortion.

One who isn't a member of a faith or what have you, they don't get an abortion.

Thats why I was kindly telling you that your post did not make sense, possibly due to typographical errors.


Please don't doubt my ability to read your posts, when its your ability to write them that is in question, my friend.

Well, given that's been my entire argument thus far, why you would be arguing over semantics and contracted words, I don't know.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Well, given that's been my entire argument thus far, why you would be arguing over semantics and contracted words, I don't know.

I'm not arguing. I was trying to understand what you were saying, so that I did not perceive it differently than what you had intended. In that particular post, I had no idea what point you were trying to make, thats why I said I didn't understand it.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Then you choose not to.

Not everyone makes the same choice as you. Not everyone believes the same things you believe - therefore, why should they be held to the same choices after the fact as you? Just because you fall into a very narrow admittedly bracket, doesn't make your case a paradigm for all pregnancy cases, sorry to say.

Because killing a human life is wrong, no matter your beliefs. At least against the moral standard. satanists sacrifice house pets, they probably believe it is good, so why shouldn't we make it legal? Because it is wrong, of course. Most pro-choice humanists tend to go at the 'well the fetus isn't a human life' angle at this point, just to give you a heads-up.

 

[sidnee]

Then you choose not to.

Not everyone makes the same choice as you. Not everyone believes the same things you believe - therefore, why should they be held to the same choices after the fact as you? Just because you fall into a very narrow admittedly bracket, doesn't make your case a paradigm for all pregnancy cases, sorry to say.

how can you so obviously ignore the point?
Age doesnt matter, and franly when a women invites a pregnancy then nothing does. She more or less asked for it and killing the child because it isnt what she wants is wrong. Period.

 

[sidnee]

Because killing a human life is wrong, no matter your beliefs. At least against the moral standard. satanists sacrifice house pets, they probably believe it is good, so why shouldn't we make it legal? Because it is wrong, of course. Most pro-choice humanists tend to go at the 'well the fetus isn't a human life' angle at this point, just to give you a heads-up.

um, yeah. I'm going to stick with that.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Quirk,
Then you follow the secular and I will follow God. As I said on the other thread if one believes Jesus Christ and His testimony is the truth it is exactly what one should base one’s opinion on because it is God’s opinion. Sorry but as a Christian I have ultimate faith in Jesus Christ according to His Biblical testimony, not a human secular opinion.

Pride in being biased is rather warped to me, but fine.

That’s interesting, what do you mean by ‘pride’ and ‘bias’ ? I agree I am biased towards the Bible and abortion being wrong, but how then are you not biased against the Bible and abortion being wrong?
Also if I trust in the Bible, which is the testimony of Jesus Christ by others, its not pride in my thinking, I would ask is your pride in, your own ideas?

Or are you trying to suggest any view that doesn’t match your own is biased and proud?

 

[Trashionista]

Because killing a human life is wrong, no matter your beliefs. At least against the moral standard. satanists sacrifice house pets, they probably believe it is good, so why shouldn't we make it legal? Because it is wrong, of course. Most pro-choice humanists tend to go at the 'well the fetus isn't a human life' angle at this point, just to give you a heads-up.

The Satanists Kill House Pets thing is not true in all Satanic sects or so-called Satanic philosophies though. I'm sure there are also plenty of church goers who butcher cats and dogs, or people. [Ted Bundy anyone?] Therefore, you can't really make a correlation between religion and animal sacrifice.

However, there is a reason animal cruelty gets so much buzz. Its something like a third of many people who go on to commit murder started out on house pets and torturing animals. The chances of a kid who blows up a cat one day killing a fellow human is a very real risk. It presents a real danger to society.

Yet I've never heard of a direct correlation between women getting abortions and then engaging in shooting fests in a local park. An abortion is between a woman and her doctor - there really isn't a direct negative affect upon outside society.

 

[Trashionista]

Dear Quirk,
Then you follow the secular and I will follow God. As I said on the other thread if one believes Jesus Christ and His testimony is the truth it is exactly what one should base one’s opinion on because it is God’s opinion. Sorry but as a Christian I have ultimate faith in Jesus Christ according to His Biblical testimony, not a human secular opinion.

That’s interesting, what do you mean by ‘pride’ and ‘bias’ ? I agree I am biased towards the Bible and abortion being wrong, but how then are you not biased against the Bible and abortion being wrong?
Also if I trust in the Bible, which is the testimony of Jesus Christ by others, its not pride in my thinking, I would ask is your pride in, your own ideas?

Or are you trying to suggest any view that doesn’t match your own is biased and proud?

Yours is biased because it only relies upon one source - the Bible.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

The Satanists Kill House Pets thing is not true in all Satanic sects or so-called Satanic philosophies though. I'm sure there are also plenty of church goers who butcher cats and dogs, or people. [Ted Bundy anyone?] Therefore, you can't really make a correlation between religion and animal sacrifice.

You missed my point. Just because someone thinks that its morally correct to do something, does not make it so.

However, there is a reason animal cruelty gets so much buzz. Its something like a third of many people who go on to commit murder started out on house pets and torturing animals. The chances of a kid who blows up a cat one day killing a fellow human is a very real risk. It presents a real danger to society.

But every time a fetus is chopped up and tossed, it doesn't make the evening news.

Yet I've never heard of a direct correlation between women getting abortions and then engaging in shooting fests in a local park. An abortion is between a woman and her doctor - there really isn't a direct negative affect upon outside society.

No, but you are totally missing the point that there is a human life that is killed off during the process. Is that life not even worth a mention? Who ultimately has the right to determine who lives and dies?

Hope you are doing well, God bless.

 

[Trashionista]

You missed my point. Just because someone thinks that its morally correct to do something, does not make it so.

But every time a fetus is chopped up and tossed, it doesn't make the evening news.

No, but you are totally missing the point that there is a human life that is killed off during the process. Is that life not even worth a mention? Who ultimately has the right to determine who lives and dies?

Hope you are doing well, God bless.

I didn't miss the point... I just didn't give you the "My goodness. Can't believe I didn't realize it before. Abortion has to be wrong in all cases" BS answer.

The question was essentially, "Should Satanists be allowed to torture animals, because they think its ok." At which point, I did note that you're judging Satanists based on a common, though incorrect in many cases, stereotype. However, there is a reason why I wouldn't support animal cruelty or the "right" to - it can have disastrous effects upon society.

However, there isn't the same correlation between mass murder or serial killing and abortion, the way there is one between torturing of animals and becoming a serial killer, as a for instance.

So, it isn't that I missed your point. I just didn't give a standard BS answer.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

I didn't miss the point... I just didn't give you the "My goodness. Can't believe I didn't realize it before. Abortion has to be wrong in all cases" BS answer.

It grieves me to know that you think that abortion being wrong is a "BS answer". That kind of response gives an effect that makes me assume you do not take this subject as serious as it really is. I hope you do take it very seriously, however, there are human lives being destroyed on a whim.

The question was essentially, "Should Satanists be allowed to torture animals, because they think its ok." At which point, I did note that you're judging Satanists based on a common, though incorrect in many cases, stereotype. However, there is a reason why I wouldn't support animal cruelty or the "right" to - it can have disastrous effects upon society.

And abortion has no disastrous effects? The human life that is lost, as well as the psychological effects on the women (and families) involved, are those effects not as disastrous as the mutilation of a house cat? One of the greatest commandments is to love our neighbor, not his cat. Where are the priorities? (I'm asking you that as a Christian)

However, there isn't the same correlation between mass murder or serial killing and abortion, the way there is one between torturing of animals and becoming a serial killer, as a for instance.

And, as best I recall, I never stated that mass murder and abortion were one in the same. mass murders are often done by sadistic motives, while abortion is done (for the most part) as a method to "fix" a problem. And society has done a great job in making it out to be some simple 'procedure' rather than the atrocity that it truly is.

So, it isn't that I missed your point. I just didn't give a standard BS answer.

I just want the truth. Give me your reason, as a professing Christian, one who knows God, why you think abortion is o.k.

God bless.

 

[lincolngreen50]

We are in the scientific age where we are seeing an increasing knowledge that is accelerating with every day and year that passes.
There are pro abortionists that say that a pre born infant are just a collection of cells that have no pattern.
I would like to remind everyone that we are all a collection of cells.
It is by Gods own work that those collection of cells make up the human body,man made in Gods own image.
That is our physical and earthly bodies that was created by God.
We are all unique.
Each and every person from conception are known to God and have a Heavenly body a soul.
All those souls have a place with our Lord in Heaven.
There are man's laws and their are Gods Laws.
Every person has the right to make their own decisions in their lives but God has told us that on the last day we will all be judged by Jesus Christ by our works.
I believe that abortion is wrong and goes against the Word of God.
For those who disagree I respect their views but I pray that the Lord will turn their hearts toward the right for life for all life both mother and infant.

 

[Trashionista]

We are in the scientific age where we are seeing an increasing knowledge that is accelerating with every day and year that passes.
There are pro abortionists that say that a pre born infant are just a collection of cells that have no pattern.
I would like to remind everyone that we are all a collection of cells.
It is by Gods own work that those collection of cells make up the human body,man made in Gods own image.
That is our physical and earthly bodies that was created by God.
We are all unique.
Each and every person from conception are known to God and have a Heavenly body a soul.
All those souls have a place with our Lord in Heaven.
There are man's laws and their are Gods Laws.
Every person has the right to make their own decisions in their lives but God has told us that on the last day we will all be judged by Jesus Christ by our works.
I believe that abortion is wrong and goes against the Word of God.
For those who disagree I respect their views but I pray that the Lord will turn their hearts toward the right for life for all life both mother and infant.

Again, pro-abortionist is not the same as pro-choice.

Thank you.