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Don't give up here.

You never know, some day your posts in here could save someone's life.

Maybe in another life in a better place someone will approach you and thank you for giving them a life.

And pro-choicers, just remember that your support in here could get someone killed in the womb.
 

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Don't give up here.

You never know, some day your posts in here could save someone's life.

Maybe in another life in a better place someone will approach you and thank you for giving them a life.

And pro-choicers, just remember that your support in here could get someone killed in the womb.

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If some idiot is inspired by a random person on a message board to get an abortion or to choose not to, they don't have a healthy decision making process.
So, don't hold the pro-Lifers on a pedestal, and bash the pro-choice side. Pity the person who is so lost that they have to rely on a forum to choose what is best for their body.
 
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Don't give up here.

You never know, some day your posts in here could save someone's life.

Maybe in another life in a better place someone will approach you and thank you for giving them a life.

And pro-choicers, just remember that your support in here could get someone killed in the womb.
On the question of where life begins, your determination and sincerity have always shone through.

As decadence set in, it is not a question of gaining new ground. But there are many Christians that come here too faced with a serious decision, and contradictory answers as to when life really does begin.
Sincere answers from other Christians such as themselves may help give perspective.

And the internet does give the whole range of perspective. Some of us are smart, some dumb, some sweet as honey, and others hard as nails, but in the end that makes us not too much different than the one that is going to be faced with carrying a baby to term in often less than optimal circumstances.

If even one person is reached, and one chooses life, that in itself is miracle enough to give infinte reason for our deciding to wpeak our minds here.

So many young Christian girls choose to believe in what the experts of society teach, and end up violating their own Christian values in the process. They leave themselves open to a life time of guilt and grief.

given the social pressures and the yearnings of youth, forgiving oneself for the sexual indiscretions typical of all youth becomes easier with the passage of time.
But as the truth of the Christian values reinstate themselves into ones's heart over time, it is much, much nore difficult for the Christian girl to be able to forgive herself when the choice was to abort.

The shame of sexual indscretion will pass. Few of us will be in a position to not forgive the similar behavior that we need to have forgiven in our own lives.

But when the girl chooses life though, she may be surprised to find just how many of us really do look up to her as one of life's true heroes! Truly providing the world with the gift of precious life transcends any missteps that happened along the road to that life.
 
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If some idiot is inspired by a random person on a message board to get an abortion or to choose not to, they don't have a healthy decision making process.
So, don't hold the pro-Lifers on a pedestal, and bash the pro-choice side. Pity the person who is so lost that they have to rely on a forum to choose what is best for their body.


This pretty much sums it up. Most people who are pregnant and may or may not be considering an abortion aren;t going to go to some abortion debate forum to decide what they should do. And those that do have issues.
 
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Don't give up here.

You never know, some day your posts in here could save someone's life.

Maybe in another life in a better place someone will approach you and thank you for giving them a life.

And pro-choicers, just remember that your support in here could get someone killed in the womb.

I don't actually agree.

I think that the more we oppose abortion here, the more ammunition we give the loudest promoters of "choice".

What do people see when they look here, anyway?

A bunch of men opposing abortion and maybe one or two post-menopausal women. What is the point. (In my case I am not post-menopausal. Far from it. A pregnancy would kill me. But that is not what people see. They automatically think that anyone over 40 is past it and "out of touch".)

If people stop posting here, the pro-choicers will have no-one to discuss this with, except themselves and there is no quicker way to turn a forum into a ghost town than if everyone agrees with each other. (Just look at the Liberal Catholic Forum.)
 
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I don't actually agree.

I think that the more we oppose abortion here, the more ammunition we give the loudest promoters of "choice".

What do people see when they look here, anyway?

A bunch of men opposing abortion and maybe one or two post-menopausal women. What is the point. (In my case I am not post-menopausal. Far from it. A pregnancy would kill me. But that is not what people see. They automatically think that anyone over 40 is past it and "out of touch".)

If people stop posting here, the pro-choicers will have no-one to discuss this with, except themselves and there is no quicker way to turn a forum into a ghost town than if everyone agrees with each other. (Just look at the Liberal Catholic Forum.)
I have been involved actively against abortion for over two decades. Most pro-lifers are women, not men. Do the research, that is a fact.
 
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If some idiot is inspired by a random person on a message board to get an abortion or to choose not to, they don't have a healthy decision making process.
So, don't hold the pro-Lifers on a pedestal, and bash the pro-choice side. Pity the person who is so lost that they have to rely on a forum to choose what is best for their body.
An idiot ?

You mean like some 15 year old seeking adult support and social acceptance to kill their baby ?
 
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An idiot ?

You mean like some 15 year old seeking adult support and social acceptance to kill their baby ?
15 year olds don't have the decision making process of a 30 year old, let alone a 20 year old.

Heck, I look back at myself 5 years ago and will admit I did some stupid things. I was an idiot as much as the next 15 year old girl. Maybe mine didn't involve abortion, but goodness, take some responsibility for one's actions. Don't rely on some weirdo to sanction abortion or pro-life sentiment for you. Make a choice, and stand by it.

And the highest percentage of women who undergo abortion are college-aged. So, unless this is Stephen Hawking we're trying to convince, the likelihood is that this Anonymous Woman you're trying to save is 22.

And I will pity her.
I pity people who aren't strong enough to make their own opinion that they have to rely on a FORUM such as this one.
If they have to rely on a forum like this, they obviously aren't mature enough to be having sex, let alone to raise a baby.
 
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If some idiot is inspired by a random person on a message board to get an abortion or to choose not to, they don't have a healthy decision making process.
So, don't hold the pro-Lifers on a pedestal, and bash the pro-choice side. Pity the person who is so lost that they have to rely on a forum to choose what is best for their body.

It is interesting though just how many "idiots" are influenced in their every-day decisions because of mass media (television in particular).
 
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Maybe mine didn't involve abortion, but goodness, take some responsibility for one's actions.

If that were the case then there wouldn't be as many abortions now would there?:wave:
 
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It is interesting though just how many "idiots" are influenced in their every-day decisions because of mass media (television in particular).
Blaming the media is taking the easy way out.

If parents actually did their jobs instead of relying on other people to raise these kids, the media would be a non-issue.
 
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If that were the case then there wouldn't be as many abortions now would there?:wave:
Having an abortion is taking responsibility.

Especially with the obnoxious loudmouths who stand outside screaming an calling women "Abominations!" That doesn't help in the situation.
 
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by killing the problem?

It is one way. You see once a woman gets pregnant short of a spontaneous miscarriage she has no choice but to deal with it. Also before you say what about adoption..you have to remember there is still 9 monthes she has to deal with. 9 monthes in which she may be on her own supporting herself. Which could easily mean losing her job especially later in the pregnancy. or not being able to get one because almost no one wants to hire a pregnant woman. This is especially true if she lives in an area where jobs are hard to find.
Now I am not saying adoption is never an option either..but sometimes a woman may have gone through all her options available to her personally and came out realizing that maybe it would just be a bit too much for her to afford and so on.
 
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Blaming the media is taking the easy way out.

If parents actually did their jobs instead of relying on other people to raise these kids, the media would be a non-issue.
Do you have kids? Do you realize how hard it is to keep parental influence over children with all of the bombardment from outside the family circle? I wasn't naming off kids, but trying to speak in general terms. The media influence affects everyone, prada bag anyone?
 
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Having an abortion is taking responsibility.
removing responsibility. In most cases, the abortion is needed because of the lack of responsibility by those having sexual intercourse. What better than to scratch out (or in this case, crush and then suck out) the problem (result) after the fact?

Especially with the obnoxious loudmouths who stand outside screaming an calling women "Abominations!" That doesn't help in the situation.
Not that I agree with the approach, but it could be good to hear someone give a voice to those who cannot scream for help themselves yet.
 
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It is one way. You see once a woman gets pregnant short of a spontaneous miscarriage she has no choice but to deal with it. Also before you say what about adoption..you have to remember there is still 9 monthes she has to deal with. 9 monthes in which she may be on her own supporting herself. Which could easily mean losing her job especially later in the pregnancy. or not being able to get one because almost no one wants to hire a pregnant woman. This is especially true if she lives in an area where jobs are hard to find.
Think about this reasoning. Woman speaking to unborn child: You must die because I cannot risk losing my job. Unborn child: .... Woman: No comment? Okay now that we have an understanding.

Don't want the chance of accidentally getting pregnant? Don't do what causes it. That eliminates nearly all chance, of course assuming there is not rape.
Now I am not saying adoption is never an option either..but sometimes a woman may have gone through all her options available to her personally and came out realizing that maybe it would just be a bit too much for her to afford and so on.
Once again. Woman: Hey, I'd rather eliminate you than get a second job, since my problems are the most important.

Where is the humility in all this? Love your neighbor as yourself, but only when it doesn't conflict with your schedule?
 
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