How about "it doesn't matter whether the stats are right because nobody here is actually arguing that having an abortion necessarily turns you into a murderer".
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How about "it doesn't matter whether the stats are right because nobody here is actually arguing that having an abortion necessarily turns you into a murderer".....that's really not how it works, but I'll throw this out there. Ready for it?
Your facts are wrong.
Now its up to you to prove me wrong.
Considering that a fetus living inside a fetus is extremely rare and virtually impossible, your comment is of no effect.
Go back, read what you said, and then put my response in context and stop this.Then why did you say tha Anyone living inside that baby is at it's mercy? Seems like you brought it up to me.
....that's really not how it works, but I'll throw this out there. Ready for it?
Your facts are wrong.
Now its up to you to prove me wrong.
Go back, read what you said, and then put my response in context and stop this.
That's not how it works either. I, the OP, declare that this thread is not about whether the facts are right or wrong but is about abortion violence and the discussion will be strictly related to abortion violence and that only.
How about "it doesn't matter whether the stats are right because nobody here is actually arguing that having an abortion necessarily turns you into a murderer".
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How about "it doesn't matter whether the stats are right because nobody here is actually arguing that having an abortion necessarily turns you into a murderer".
Trickster
So, truthful facts are not necessary. Got it.
Ah. Well, humans do violent things when their passions are up. Was that in question? That's like pointing out that to maintain health humans eat.I will not read it but I will apologise if I accidentally took your comments out of context. This thread is strictly about abortion violence and not abortion general.
I have to agree, I'd prefer actual data to see where these deaths are actually being caused. I understand that anti-abortion activists can target doctors and women, but who can pro-abortion advocates target? Are these supposedly acts of murder, etc. against other activists?So, truthful facts are not necessary. Got it.
Exactly! The thread is strictly about abortion violence and nothing else!
Ah. Well, humans do violent things when their passions are up. Was that in question? That's like pointing out that to maintain health humans eat.
Ah. Well, humans do violent things when their passions are up. Was that in question? That's like pointing out that to maintain health humans eat.
Okay, and I claim that your OP which claims that 1,798 "sex crimes" have been committed in the name of pro-choice ideology is false.
All you'd likely have to do is show us where you got these numbers.
I will not read it but I will apologise if I accidentally took your comments out of context. This thread is strictly about abortion violence and not abortion general.
We can agree that abortion is legal and necessary in a society that values liberty, even if many find it reprehensible, and to get along we have to defer to the priincipals that our country was founded on.No that wasn't really the question. Here's a starter. What can we do to stop or prevent abortion violence and resolve our differences in peaceful manners?
We can agree that abortion is legal and necessary in a society that values liberty, even if many find it reprehensible, and to get along we have to defer to the priincipals that our country was founded on.
Then we are enemies on this issue. I value liberty more than any other national concern and will not bend.How about ways other than that because I personally do not wish for abortion to be legal even though it is.
No that wasn't really the question. Here's a starter. What can we do to stop or prevent abortion violence and resolve our differences in peaceful manners?
We can agree that abortion is legal and necessary in a society that values liberty, even if many find it reprehensible, and to get along we have to defer to the priincipals that our country was founded on.
Then we are enemies on this issue. I value liberty more than any other national concern and will not bend.
Okay, to put this into context:
These are acts reported since 1965, and only refer to people who are pro-choice, not acts done in the name of choice.
For instance:
"In 1998, in Jackson, Mississippi, Abortionist, Malachi Delwams, primary abortionist at the New Wiseman's Clinic abortion mill, molested his wife, Nyesha who worked with him"
or
"In 1989, a Judge sentenced Los Angeles abortionist to 53 years in prison after a jury found him guilty of killing 8 newborn babies."
In other words, these were not acts on pro-lifers, nor are they acts committed to benefit the cause of abortion. These are simply examples provided to create the case that pro-choicers are horrible people.
http://abortionviolence.com/more.html
It is more of a concern that this information is coming from a rather biased source, playing on a political agenda.
Okay, to put this into context:
These are acts reported since 1965, and only refer to people who are pro-choice, not acts done in the name of choice.
For instance:
"In 1998, in Jackson, Mississippi, Abortionist, Malachi Delwams, primary abortionist at the New Wiseman's Clinic abortion mill, molested his wife, Nyesha who worked with him"
or
"In 1989, a Judge sentenced Los Angeles abortionist to 53 years in prison after a jury found him guilty of killing 8 newborn babies."
In other words, these were not acts on pro-lifers, nor are they acts committed to benefit the cause of abortion. These are simply examples provided to create the case that pro-choicers are horrible people.
http://abortionviolence.com/more.html
It is more of a concern that this information is coming from a rather biased source, playing on a political agenda.
You could start by trying to understand the "other sides" viewpoint and then avoid name-calling. You start off on the wrong foot right away.
How about ways other than that because I personally do not wish for abortion to be legal even though it is.
I would not consider you to be an enemy but an opponent.
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