Prince Charles, Antichrist?

[NumberOneSon]

hehehe....sausage man.

 

[Bible2]

heavensblade23 posted in message #1:

Prince Charles was born 6 months to the day after the
formation of Israel.

The Bible doesn't say that the Antichrist would be
born 6 months to the day after the formation of
Israel.

heavensblade23 posted in message #1:

He claims the bloodline of King David, Muhammed, and
possibly Jesus.

That sounds like something the Antichrist could do,
in order to bolster his claim to be the rightful
ruler of the world (Revelation 13:7b).

But the Antichrist could also not claim the bloodline
of King David, or Muhammad, or Jesus. Instead, he
could simply say that he is the Son of Lucifer, the
ruler of the world (Luke 4:5-6; 2 Corinthians 4:4a),
and that Lucifer (the dragon) has given to him all of
his (Lucifer's) power: "and the dragon gave him his
power, and his seat [throne], and great authority"
(Revelation 13:2).

heavensblade23 posted in message #1:

His coat of arms has a red dragon on it, and his name
'Charles, Prince Of Wales' equals 666 in the gematria
in Hebrew.

Lucifer is the red dragon (Revelation 12:3a,9), but
he has seven heads and ten horns (Revelation 12:3b).
Does Charles' coat of arms have such a dragon on it?
It's possible that even if it doesn't, it could still
be intended to represent Lucifer the dragon.

The Antichrist will bring the whole world into the
worship of Lucifer the dragon (Revelation 13:4a).

The "number of the name" of the Antichrist equalling
666 (Revelation 13:17b-18) does refer to the ancient
system of gematria which was connected to the Hebrew
and Greek alphabets, whereby the letters could be
converted into numbers as follows: the first nine
letters were converted into 1 through 9, the second
9 letters were converted into 10 through 90 (counting
by tens), and the rest of the letters were converted
into 100, 200, 300, etc., until the end of the
alphabet. Applying this gematria to the English
alphabet, we would get the following numerical values
for each letter:

A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4, E=5, F=6, G=7, H=8, I=9,
J=10, K=20, L=30, M=40, N=50, O=60, P=70, Q=80, R=90,
S=100, T=200, U=300, V=400, W=500, X=600, Y=700, Z=800

Under this system, the number of the name "Charles,
Prince Of Wales" would be calculated by adding up the
numerical values for each letter in the name:

C=3 + H=8 + A=1 + R=90 + L=30 + E=5 + S=100 +
P=70 + R=90 + I=9 + N=50 + C=3 + E=5 +
O=60 + F=6 +
W=500 + A=1 + L=30 + E=5 + S=100

One can see right away that it adds up to more than
666, just because of the letter "W" and the two
letter "S's", so "Charles, Prince Of Wales" isn't
the name of the Antichrist.

Charles is of the house of Windsor; even "Charles
Windsor" adds up to more than 666, again because
of the letter "W" and the two letter "S's".

This doesn't mean that Charles, Prince Of Wales
definitely isn't the Antichrist, for he could go
by a different title in the future.

heavensblade23 posted in message #1:

A lot of the heraldic imagery sets to fit in with the
stuff in revelation.

What else of his heraldic imagery fits in with
Revelation besides the red dragon?

Also, is it true that a huge statue of Charles has
been set up in the Amazon somewhere, and that this
statue looks Antichrist-y, and/or the inscription
below it sounds Antichrist-y?

heavensblade23 posted in message #1:

Isn't there also something in Daniel about a prince
without a kingdom? Fits Prince Charles perfectly.

The Bible does say that the Antichrist is someone
"to whom they shall not give the honour of the
kingdom" (Daniel 11:21). This does fit Prince Charles
perfectly in that his mother refuses to abdicate so
that he can become King.

But the Biblical context of "to whom they shall not
give the honour of the kingdom" (Daniel 11:21) doesn't
fit Prince Charles at all, for the context is all
about future events in the Middle East, not events
in England. Daniel 11:15-17 refers to a leader who in
the future will attack and defeat Israel and Egypt.
This leader could be a Baathist Iraqi General placed
in charge of a huge Iraqi Army built up by the U.S.
with the intent that it would attack and defeat Iran
instead. After this leader disappears from the scene
(Daniel 11:19b), he will be replaced by someone who
will die after only a few days (Daniel 11:20), and
then be replaced by the Antichrist (Daniel 11:21).

So the context of Daniel 11:21 would be in line with
some Arab, say from Lebanon, being given control of
a Baathist confederation of Iraq, Syria (including
"Palestine", i.e. a defeated Israel), and Egypt. His
not being given the "honor of the kingdom" could
simply mean that he will be given only pro tempore
control, until, say "proper elections can be held".

Also, while the Antichrist is called a "Prince", he
isn't called the Prince of Wales, but of Tyre
(Ezekiel 28:2, cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:4), which is in
Lebanon. His father Lucifer is called the King of
Tyre (Ezekiel 28:12-15).

 

[ArmyMatt]

The Antichrist will try to imitate Christ so that the Jews and others will accept him as the Messiah. he will try to imitate the Virgin Birth (although it will be a lie) and we all know that Philip in Charles' biological father. he will also come to power in his early 30's to imitate Christ, and Charles is 60. he will also be insanely deceptive, so I highly doubt that a thread debate on a Christian forum will figure it out.

I am gonna say no

 

[icedtea]

The antichrist (Beast) is a human.
He must be Jewish as they accept him as their messiah.
This rules out Charles.
hee

Also.
No christians will know who he is! I plan to be gone before he comes into power.
So all speculation is ruled out.

 

[AirForceTeacher]

I think that the most obvious reason to discount Prince Charles is that he has heretofore not been considered a remarkable and well respected man, in fact quite to the contrary. He is simply an average man in a lofty position.

 

[tulc]

The Antichrist will try to imitate Christ so that the Jews and others will accept him as the Messiah. he will try to imitate the Virgin Birth (although it will be a lie) and we all know that Philip in Charles' biological father. he will also come to power in his early 30's to imitate Christ, and Charles is 60. he will also be insanely deceptive, so I highly doubt that a thread debate on a Christian forum will figure it out.
I am gonna say no (emph. added)

That highlighted part, wouldn't it matter more who his mother was then his father?
tulc(just a thought)

 

[icedtea]

tulc, you are so smart.

 

[zeke37]

The antichrist (Beast) is a human.

he will be an angelic man...a very physical fallen angel with supernatural abilities....Satan cast from heaven for a short season...Rev12-13...not a human being...

He must be Jewish as they accept him as their messiah.

not even close...

This rules out Charles.
hee

Also.
No christians will know who he is! I plan to be gone before he comes into power.

Are you sick/dying???

So all speculation is ruled out.

there is no speculation...

Satan will claim to be Jesus come here to rapture you away...called the hour of temptation...

in His service
c

 

[icedtea]

Well, you believe that. I will not.

 

[garry2]

And nobody would, not Bibical, but sectarian, from man.

 

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[ArmyMatt]

That highlighted part, wouldn't it matter more who his mother was then his father?
tulc(just a thought)

no because he needs a Divine Father to make the Messianic claim. sorry for not being more clear.

 

[tulc]

no because he needs a Divine Father to make the Messianic claim. sorry for not being more clear.

But wouldn't he need a Jewish mother in order to be considered Jewish?
tulc(just a thought)

 

[icedtea]

Did Jesus?

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

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[garry2]

cf is only a forum, nothing special about it, not serious cf.

 

[zspeedyrabit]

Don't know if Prince Charles is in Christ (confess Christ, baptized, repentant) but he is definately not the Antichrist. The Antichrist currently resides in the United States of America, was actually in Nevada last God told me.

 

[Catherineanne]

Just curious whether anyone has read "The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea", which purports that Charles is the man everyone is looking for.

According to some of the amazon reviews, it almost seems to obvious. Prince Charles was born 6 months to the day after the formation of Israel. He claims the bloodline of King David, Muhammed, and possibly Jesus. His coat of arms has a red dragon on it, and his name 'Charles, Prince Of Wales' equals 666 in the gematria in Hebrew. A lot of the heraldic imagery sets to fit in with the stuff in revelation. Isn't there also something in Daniel about a prince without a kingdom? Fits Prince Charles perfectly.

I don't really believe in all this, but the theory is fascinating. It almost seems unlikely enough to be true.

I am sorry, but since when was the UK Royal family supposed to be descended from King David, or Mohammed, or Jesus? Queen Victoria, yes, even Wiliam the Conquerer, but not King David.

This is complete twaddle.

His title is not 'Charles, Prince of Wales', but HRH the Prince of Wales. And I bet that adds up to something other than 666.

Prince Charles is not a Prince without a Kingdom. He has a Kingdom, but until his mother dies, he remains Heir Apparent, rather than King.

Etc. I can't imagine anyone wasting money on this nonsense.

 

[NumberOneSon]

I can't imagine anyone wasting money on this nonsense.

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