Priesthood of the Third Temple

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Anything that's not in the Bible is just a man-made theory. That certainly is simple.

Did you get out of bed this morning?

Is that in the Bible?

It's just your man-made theory.

Couldn't be simpler, eh?
 
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Anything that's not in the Bible is just a man-made theory. That certainly is simple.

Did you get out of bed this morning?

Is that in the Bible?

It's just your man-made theory.

Couldn't be simpler, eh?

I have a theory that Abraham Lincoln was the 16th president of the United States....

I can't find one scintilla of evidence in scripture to support it, however, so it's still just a theory....
 
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The following comes from your source.
These people are lost, without Christ.

I've asked you this before. Where's the link? Why do you copy and paste from outside sources and never post a link? Do you have something to hide? Afraid I might find flaws in your sources?

Your posts means nothing to me without evidence: a link.


Your Two Peoples of God doctrine is part of the problem, instead of the solution.

Your Replacement theology is the problem. You can't accept what the bible teaches and accuse others for not embracing your doctrine over the bible.

The view that Israel and the church are different is clearly taught in the New Testament. Biblically speaking, the church is distinct from Israel, and the terms church and Israel are never to be confused or used interchangeably. We are taught from Scripture that the church is an entirely new creation that came into being on the day of Pentecost and will continue until it is taken to heaven at the rapture (Ephesians 1:9–11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13–17). The church has no relationship to the curses and blessings for Israel. The covenants, promises, and warnings of the Mosaic Covenant were valid only for Israel. Israel has been temporarily set aside in God’s program during these past 2,000 years of dispersion (see Romans 11).

What is replacement theology / supersessionism?


Here's my link, where's yours?
 
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Again no link! How do I know you didn't alter any of the wordings BAB? Am I suppose to just take your word and accept what you wrote?

And John Darby is only "one" individual. On person does not mean majority of scholars out there.
 
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Did you get out of bed this morning?

Is that in the Bible?

It's just your man-made theory.

Couldn't be simpler, eh?

Why all the fuss jgr?

Were you unable to find any verse(s) to quote in any of your prior posts?

As I said, I'll be happy to provide an explanation as soon as you provide a verse from any of your post. Still waiting.


Anything that's not in the Bible is just a man-made theory. That certainly is simple.

That's pretty much it. No compromise. If it's not supported by the bible, it means nothing to me.
 
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Again no link! How do I know you didn't alter any of the wordings BAB? Am I suppose to just take your word and accept what you wrote?


The source is "e-Sword", which is a free downloadable Bible program found in the link below.
Feel free to download this powerful tool into your computer.

Please check it to see if I am making things up.
Compare it to "Judaism 101", which seems to be one of your sources of truth.


e-Sword: Free Bible Study for the PC

John Nelson Darby is the person who brought your Two Peoples of God doctrine to America about the time of the Civil War. It was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread like a virus through the evangelical Church.


Darby's attempts to keep the Church separated from Israel falls apart in the passage below.
When James addressed his letter to "the twelve tribes", who were his "brethren" in the "faith", who was James talking to?



Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

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I checked the entire Bible again today for any record of any of your activities.

Unsurprisingly, I found nothing.

Do you know what that means?

By your own definition, it means that your own entire existence is a man-made theory.

Sorry for the bad news, but you should have been expecting it.

The shoe fits...even on a man-made theory.
 
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Your Replacement theology is the problem. You can't accept what the bible teaches and accuse others for not embracing your doctrine over the bible.
Here's what the Bible teaches:

The Israelite apostles of the Jewish Messiah say I am a Jew (Romans 2:27-29), say I am "Abraham's seed" (Romans 4:16/Galatians 3:29), say I am "the peculiar people, royal priesthood, holy nation" (1 Peter 2:9-10), say I am the circumcision-less Israel of God (Galatians 6:15-16), say I am "no longer a stranger but a fellow citizen of the commonwealth" (Ephesians 2:19), say I was once not a people but now am the people of God (1 Peter 2:10) and say I am the circumcision (Philippians 3:2-3). Each and every one of these statements takes a key identifier/distinctive of Israel and labels me with it. Meanwhile, Christ calls the disobedient genetic sons of Abraham the "sons of satan" and the "synagogue of satan" (Revelation 2:9/John 8:39-47), and St. John says that those who deny the Son have no claim whatsoever to the Father (1 John 2:23)
 
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Calm down now paro. That all happened in 70ad.




I have a theory that Abraham Lincoln was the 16th president of the United States....

I can't find one scintilla of evidence in scripture to support it, however, so it's still just a theory....
Why would you try to dig up information about Lincoln from the bible? That's like trying to find evidence apples are red or green by digging through oranges. It's simply not there! Is this how preterists approach prophecy?

You only need evidence in Scriptures when debating about biblical issues such as salvation or the Second Coming.
 
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This does me no good. What if I download your source today and tomorrow you copy and past an article from another source?

What's so hard about posting a link whenever you copy and paste something? It only takes 10 seconds to do. Is that too hard to do or are you afraid I might find something you don't want anyone to see from your source?





Please check it to see if I am making things up.
I don't see how more information about John Darby proves most scholars believes Luke 21 was already fulfilled in 70 ad. The only thing I've gotten out of this so far is you seem to follow John Darby.....a lot!

Are you unable to find any support to your claim? Or were you just making things up?





This doesn't prove most scholars believes Luke 21 was fulfilled in 70 ad either.

Seems like you're grasping at straws. I'm not buying it, you haven't convinced me yet.
 
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Do you not understand that when a source such as eSword is used, it is not possible to put an internet link directly to that article?
The only way you can access it is by downloading eSword. What part of this fact do you not understand?

I did not say all of Luke 21 was fulfilled in 70 AD.
I said everything up to the middle of Luke 21:24 was fulfilled during 70 AD.

Before you accuse others of making up things remember that you have accused others of not being real Christians when they do not agree with you, and then you turn around and post "Judaism 101" as a source of truth, even those who produce it directly deny Christ.


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Seville90210 said:
Most scholars on this forum does not mean most scholars around the world. Only the preterists on this forum agrees with you.
Seville90210 said:
Again no link! How do I know you didn't alter any of the wordings BAB? Am I suppose to just take your word and accept what you wrote?
BABerean2 said:
Please check it to see if I am making things up.
Seville90210 said:
Your Replacement theology is the problem. You can't accept what the bible teaches and accuse others for not embracing your doctrine over the bible.
parousia70 said:
Here's what the Bible teaches:.......................
Calm down now paro. That all happened in 70ad.

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Hello Seville. That is a great video series. [still waiting on part 4]

Please see my thread on the harmonization of the 70ad Olivet Disourse..........

Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread

Along with this thread concerning the 7 yrs Jewish wars in the 1st century, ending with the taking of Masada in 73ad.

WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS 1ST CENTURY ISRAEL, JUDEA AND JERUSALEM


Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized
Matt 24:6


Matthew 24:6
Ye shall be being about yet to be hearing battles and tidings of battles<4171>.
Be seeing no! be being frightened<2360> for is binding to be becoming,
but not yet is the end<5056>.


Mark 13:7
Whenever yet ye should be hearing battles and tidings of battles<4171>,
be seeing no! to be being frightened<2360>, for is binding to be becoming,
but not yet
the end.

Luke 21:9
Whenever yet ye should be hearing battles and tumults<181>,
no be being dismayed<4422> for is binding these to be becoming first,
but not immediately<2112> the end.

===========================
https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html


TRACKING THE FIRST JEWISH REVOLT FROM A MILITARY POINT OF VIEW
POV: Administrative | Factional | Military | Theological


CAST OF CHARACTERS: Roman: Emperor Nero | General Vespasian | General Titus | The Roman Army || Jewish: General / Historian Josephus | Factional Leaders in Jerusalem || Administrators of Roman Judea Targets: Jerusalem | Herod's Temple // Maps of the Roman Invasion // Theological Timeline


CHRONOLOGY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE WAR

Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62
Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66

Stage 3: The Campaign of Cestius Gallus and the Defeat of the Twelfth Legion: October-November 66
Stage 4: End of Collaborative Government, Priesthood ; General Flight: November 66 - March 67

Part 6: Vespasian Subdues Northern and Western Palestine: December 66 - December 68
Part 7: Three-way Power Struggle within Jerusalem After Roman Retreat: January 68 - May 70
Part 8: Romans Breach City Walls and Leave Jerusalem Desolate: May 10 - September 10, 70
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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
"I consider the Prophecy relative to the destruction of the Jewish nation,

if there were nothing else to support Christianity, as absolutely irresistible."
(Mr. Erskine's Speech, at the Trial of Williams, for publishing Paine's Age of Reason)

History records few events more generally interesting than the destruction of Jerusalem, and the subversion of the Jewish state, by the arms of the Romans. --

Their intimate connexion with the dissolution of the Levitical economy, and the establishment of Christianity in the world ;
the striking verification which they afford of so many of the prophecies, both of the Old and New Testament, and the powerful arguments of the divine authority of the Scriptures which are thence derived ;
the solemn warnings and admonitions which they hold out to all nations, but especially such as are favoured with the light and blessings of REVELATION ; together with the impressive and terrific grandeur of the events themselves...................
======================

The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

Revelation 18:19
and they cast dust upon their heads, and cried, lamenting, weeping and mourning, saying,
"Woe! woe! the great City! in which are rich all those having ships<4143> in the sea, out of Her preciousness<5094>,

for to one hour was She was desolated<2049>.
=========================

Hosea 5:2
The rebels are knee-deep in slaughter. I will discipline all of them.


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The fortress at Masada in Israel

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That all happened in 70ad.
Good to see you coming around brother Sevi!
I'm glad you agree with the scriptures I posted and their implications.
That's a smart move on your part. You are on the right path friend! Keep it up!
As I've always said, ALL Christians are preterist, we only vary by degree.
 
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parousia70 said:
Here's what the Bible teaches:
Seville90210 said:
That all happened in 70ad.
Another convert to Preterism
[tho I think Seville was just being "sarcastic" ]

Difference between amillennialism & preterism
 
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