President Donald Trump = modern Cyrus prophecy?

[DennisTate]

Trump may be our last chance to turn things around (although I believe "Jacob's Trouble" has already begun).

Yes..... that is my feeling as well. The next eight years are
critical if many of the worst problems and disasters are to be
avoided.

Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel as well as many of the minor prophets
were clear that if we would change our ways... .many of the predicted disasters
could be avoided.

Prophecy is to a major degree conditional on our behaviour.

 

[Stillicidia]

I have read that he has an IQ of 156.

His words are like an opening gambit in chess....
we do not fully understand where President Trump is headed based on
what he says......

I am hopeful that by the year 2024 the dogmatic,
simplistic,
unrealistic,
and in my opinion, illogical, Atheistic version of Evolutionary Theory.....
will be largely replaced by a version of Evolutionary Theory that will fit quite nicely with the
variation of the Cyclic Model of the Universe / Multiverse that near death experiencer and former
Atheist Mellen Thomas Benedict was shown during his near death experience.

His choice for Education Secretary...... is a brilliant step in this general direction.

Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?

Don't worry about Trump. 24 years of light and life will be in the White House. After that, darkness.

 

[DennisTate]

Don't worry about Trump. 24 years of light and life will be in the White House. After that, darkness.

Wow!!!!!!!

That really does fit with some of the powerful and interesting visions of the future that I have read, specifically the visionary dream given to Pastor Rick Joyner back in 1995.

He was shown that the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.... took place at the same time that darkness was released into the earth as well.

 

[Stillicidia]

Wow!!!!!!!

That really does fit with some of the powerful and interesting visions of the future that I have read, specifically the visionary dream given to Pastor Rick Joyner back in 1995.

He was shown that the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.... took place at the same time that darkness was released into the earth as well.

2017

I made this thread, you can look at it if you want.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Wrong biblical figure to make the comparison, a more proper biblical figure is Haman, or possibly Herod or Pilate.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[JackRT]

I will be honest here, I have great difficulty in seeing Donald Trump as a Christian let alone a prophetic figure. However, people can and do change. Maybe he will.

 

[DennisTate]

I will be honest here, I have great difficulty in seeing Donald Trump as a Christian let alone a prophetic figure. However, people can and do change. Maybe he will.

I believe that it is extremely significant that the gifted Christians
who were given a message about the calling on his life used the
name Cyrus..... This is interesting because Isaiah 45: 1, 4, 5 states
that Cyrus....DID NOT actually know the G-d of Abraham like the Prophet Daniel
did.......
but yet... he was actually guided by the right hand.

Isaiah chapters 42 - 49 write about Cyrus in one verse.....
the Patriarch Jacob / Yacob in the next verse... back and forth,
back and forth.

Jacob tends to NOT be our favourite Biblical character but.....
Jacob learned from his children, especially Joseph, and by the end of
his life he had developed a powerful prophetic gift and could give a message
to each of his children..... that was far, far, far , far far more valuable than
millions of dollars in gold or silver........

 

[DennisTate]

Wrong biblical figure to make the comparison, a more proper biblical figure is Haman, or possibly Herod or Pilate.

-CryptoLutheran

To a degree...... some of the time.....
each of us could be a bit like these men, or like
Barabbas / Bar Abbas...... who, like me, was a notable
criminal who was set free..... only because of the off the scale
grace and mercy of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to whom all judgment
has been committed.

 

[PeterBlom30]

Here's one we agree on!

 

[DennisTate]

Here's one we agree on!

Indeed it is... and what do you think of this particular
message given in post #22 above?

Don't worry about Trump. 24 years of light and life will be in the White House. After that, darkness.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

No.
Did Cyrus die his hair and spray tan?
BTW I voted for him.

 

[DennisTate]

No.
Did Cyrus die his hair and spray tan?
BTW I voted for him.

But.... if the time is coming when the most FEEBLE resident of
literal Jerusalem will be comparable to the historical King David of
Israel....... and if the least Christian will be somehow more gifted, more guided,
more so inspired, even than John the Baptist.....

then isn't it logical that the time is also coming when any sincere
political leader who truly wants the guidance of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, should
also be taken by the right hand, as it states clearly King Cyrus was?

Zechariah 12:8

"In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."


Matthew 11:11

"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."

 

[DrBubbaLove]

I don't know about any of all that and I contend it does not matter to me or anyone who will attempt living each moment as He would have us do and so ready to meet our Maker. I think some folks waste far too much time pondering and concerned over whether "this is it" and less about just living as He says we should.

 

[DennisTate]

I don't know about any of all that and I contend it does not matter to me or anyone who will attempt living each moment as He would have us do and so ready to meet our Maker. I think some folks waste far too much time pondering and concerned over whether "this is it" and less about just living as He says we should.

True.....
we should pray fervently for our political leaders.....
whether we agree with them on a lot of issues or not.

 

[DennisTate]

Trump may be our last chance to turn things around (although I believe "Jacob's Trouble" has already begun).

Wow!

That is true and he sure seems to be off to an excellent start!

Trump Doubles Down on Jerusalem Embassy Promise; City’s Mayor Welcomes Him With Open Arms

 

[DennisTate]

I don't know about any of all that and I contend it does not matter to me or anyone who will attempt living each moment as He would have us do and so ready to meet our Maker. I think some folks waste far too much time pondering and concerned over whether "this is it" and less about just living as He says we should.

Beginning back in 1990
I began to literally raise my right hand in the air
.... quote Isaiah 45:1 and ask to be taken by the right hand
as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, (in his pre-existent form) took an ancient
Gentile world ruler also by the right hand.........

Focusing our attention on Isaiah 45 can.....
inspire us greatly.....

Romans 10:17

"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

I actually got more than a little jealous back at that time.... that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would lead somebody by the right hand who.......

Isaiah 45:1

¶
"Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;"

.....
Isa 45:4

For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.


I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

 

[DrBubbaLove]

Beginning back in 1990
I began to literally raise my right hand in the air
.... quote Isaiah 45:1 and ask to be taken by the right hand
as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, (in his pre-existent form) took an ancient
Gentile world ruler also by the right hand.........

Focusing our attention on Isaiah 45 can.....
inspire us greatly.....

Romans 10:17

"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

I actually got more than a little jealous back at that time.... that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would lead somebody by the right hand who.......

Isaiah 45:1

¶
"Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;"

.....
Isa 45:4

For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.


I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

raised your hand to what - that Cyrus died his hair and spray tanned?
My point was if one is ready and seeks daily to be ready and live present in every moment as if it was our last, I doubt one has the time to devote or concern oneself so much with all these things - all the perpetually repeated predictions and constantly moving goal posts when those fail.
I do not see how the above response applies. Are you suggesting we don't know God unless we devote ourselves to figuring out the future?

 

[DennisTate]

raised your hand to what - that Cyrus died his hair and spray tanned?
My point was if one is ready and seeks daily to be ready and live present in every moment as if it was our last, I doubt one has the time to devote or concern oneself so much with all these things - all the perpetually repeated predictions and constantly moving goal posts when those fail.
I do not see how the above response applies. Are you suggesting we don't know God unless we devote ourselves to figuring out the future?

No......
whether or not we have an accurate understanding of the most probable
implications of many prophecies or not doesn't affect whether or not we
make it into heaven after death but.......
during the time of the Prophet Jeremiah.....
some Jews listened to him......
and DID NOT get themselves involved in a revolt against King Nebuchadnezzar and.....
some other Jews did NOT listen to the Prophet Jeremiah,.....

they did get involved in a revolt against King Nebuchadnezzar.....
and many of them paid with their lives.......

.. and I was raising my hand toward the G-d of Abraham who
inspired Isaiah...... inspired the Prophet Jeremiah... and who also
led a Gentile King Cyrus by the right hand......

 

[DrBubbaLove]

No......
whether or not we have an accurate understanding of the most probable
implications of many prophecies or not doesn't affect whether or not we
make it into heaven after death but.......
during the time of the Prophet Jeremiah.....
some Jews listened to him......
and DID NOT get themselves involved in a revolt against King Nebuchadnezzar and.....
some other Jews did NOT listen to the Prophet Jeremiah,.....

they did get involved in a revolt against King Nebuchadnezzar.....
and many of them paid with their lives.......

.. and I was raising my hand toward the G-d of Abraham who
inspired Isaiah...... inspired the Prophet Jeremiah... and who also
led a Gentile King Cyrus by the right hand......

um, ok.
Back to the OP, I voted for Trump and would do same again given the choices we were given. Am no more concerned about any relationship with Trump becoming president to the 2nd coming or looking for an alleged connection to OT prophecy than I am to what I will eat tomorrow or what I had for breakfast.

I would think concerning myself with right now, living right now and being right with Him infinitely more important than wasting my time speculating about what tomorrow may bring or looking for clues about when He returns. My point was that I am not guaranteed my next breath. What good would it do me to know even some hint at when He returns compared to being ready and living at my best right now?

 

[DennisTate]

um, ok.
Back to the OP, I voted for Trump and would do same again given the choices we were given. Am no more concerned about any relationship with Trump becoming president to the 2nd coming or looking for an alleged connection to OT prophecy than I am to what I will eat tomorrow or what I had for breakfast.

I would think concerning myself with right now, living right now and being right with Him infinitely more important than wasting my time speculating about what tomorrow may bring or looking for clues about when He returns. My point was that I am not guaranteed my next breath. What good would it do me to know even some hint at when He returns compared to being ready and living at my best right now?

Good question.....
and I could be incorrect about this but it seems to me that the full fledged
fulfillment of Zechariah 14 cannot occur until after the Jewish people rebuild their
Jerusalem Third Temple......
some gifted people have been shown indicators that perhaps P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu
has the courage necessary to assist in the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple....

some gifted Christians feel that President Donald Trump has the courage and
genuine belief in freedom of religious expression for the Jewish people to support
P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu in this.......

Both the years 2030 as well as 2070 are logical years for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple but.....
my strong feeling is that delaying the rebuilding to 2070 will be similar to Israel wandering in the Sinai for
forty years.........

Should Christians support Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple.