• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

pray for me

If Not For Grace

Legend-but then so's Keith Richards
Feb 4, 2005
28,116
2,268
Curtis Loew's House w/Kid Rock & Hank III
Visit site
✟54,498.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Father:

Send the comforter to these children, that they may know Your Peace. Give them stregnth & the courage to face these battles, bring to their rememberance that they are more than conquerors, asked in the name of Your Son, Jesus.
Amen

PS: Theinterpol: The End is better than the beginning. (We Win)
 
Upvote 0

Theinterpol

Newbie
Mar 23, 2011
227
18
✟22,953.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
This made me very happy, i've been depressed all day, all i can think about is demons, i've encountered some. But my thoughts go to my friends dad who sees them everyday, but he thinks they're ghosts, who seek help from him, hes dead wife visits him sometimes, But i knows these are bad ones, since i once prayed for him, and the whole room went cold, and it felt like someone was standing next to my bed, but there was noone there when i opened my eyes. I want to help him but i feel helpless against them, i told him to speak about jesus the next time he sees them to confront them, he promised me to do that, but i havent spoke to him since, so i pleed you all to pray for him, god bless.
 
Upvote 0

razeontherock

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2010
26,546
1,480
WI
✟35,597.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Wow.

1. You ARE helpless against demons, as we all are. (On our own, in our own mortal power)

2. An unbeliever "speaking about Jesus" to demons is ... not such a good idea.

3. A believer, in right relationship with our Creator and equipped with the indwelling Holy Spirit, has NOTHING to fear!

What then shall I pray? Where else would I turn?

"making mention of you in my prayers; Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what [is] the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly [places],
Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all [things] under his feet"

I urge you to learn what is meant by 'living in the Epistles!' When you encounter things like this that seem good to pray for - PRAY FOR THEM!! Make it personal, as our Father knows you personally ...
 
Upvote 0

Ezeretane

Newbie
Mar 12, 2011
163
24
Strasbourg
✟22,926.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Private
hello
i'm glad you find a place to talk about what you're dealing with
i will not pretend to understand everything you are going trough but I know my GOd can overcome everything
when you have fear read you bible and learn some verses like psalm 23
even when JESUS was tempted he quote the bible
you can also listen to christian music during your sleep and concentrate on the lyrics ,it helps.
then i'll pray for you :

Father GOD you know your son and you love him, you gave your life for him to show how priceless he is ,you see his trial but you have also prepare a way out for him because your word says so and your word is the truth
you also said that if 2 people agree for something than it is as if our prayers were answered :were are more than 2 here so father have mercy on us and help me and give an end to his suffering so that he could witness how great you are and be a light to free other thanks to you
father all we have is by grace and it's all we need so i pray that tonight to act in his life
i pray in the name of Jesus Christ
Amen
good cheer

F
 
Upvote 0

razeontherock

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2010
26,546
1,480
WI
✟35,597.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
I hope you don't mind if I point you to some relevant Scripture?

"him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." (John 6:37)

Hope is good. Indeed, we are subject to hope, but with respect to our relationship with G-d, he wants us to have CONFIDENCE! In Joshua 1, G-d commands him to "be strong and of a good courage." THREE TIMES!

So on this subject we need more than mere Hope. And you're seeing precisely why!

"And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven."

One step at a time, eh? ;) There's some powerful stuff here to chew through!
 
Upvote 0

Theinterpol

Newbie
Mar 23, 2011
227
18
✟22,953.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I dont mind at all, this gives me only more joy my friend :)

I am sorry but im not so good at english, but i try to understand. I need confidence, and with my confidence from and with god, i can drive these bad spirits from him, and in all my prayers to believe that the good things will prevale, with gods word we have the power, sort of like that?

I really admire the love you people show.
 
Upvote 0

razeontherock

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2010
26,546
1,480
WI
✟35,597.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
with gods word we have the power, sort of like that?

This is REALLY important, so questions become very important.

It is never WE that have the Power. It is ALWAYS G-d Himself. He always gets to decide how, and when, it is used.

It is this sort of humility that is 100% essential in struggles against any powers of darkness.

Where confidence comes in, is that G-d has told us clearly what His will is about these things, and HE is Faithful. With our confidence, (trust, Faith, etc) in HIM,

"in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us." (Romans 8:37)

This is all for YOU. I hope what I've said is clear? If you have questions about anything, please do ask for clarification. As for someone else, you may be able to exert this influence while you are around them, but they will need to come to the same saving Faith, and obtain Grace w/o you sooner or later ...
 
Upvote 0

Theinterpol

Newbie
Mar 23, 2011
227
18
✟22,953.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Okey, i think i understand. My friends father must finally embrace jesus as hes savior, before these things leave him alone. That leads me to another questions.

Do you think my prayers help him at all, or for the other people i pray, even though i dont speak to them at all? I mean, this may sound a little bit weird. But a while back ago i was having a really hard time, emptiness. Nothing was of worth to me, my life was useless to me. I was heading for no direction, almost suicide.

When i found out of this band, tegan and sara it was so unexpected, they made me happy and my life was starting to make sense. The cold me was gone, i was looking forward for the days and was very happy, i showed my feelings to people. trough this happines i found god. I remember that day very well, The sun was shining and i looked out and said, that i want to be in touch with god, just like that, came from nowhere. It was this amazing feeling. I remeber that day very well, it was a blessing and a curse. One of the worst days of my life, i can tell you that story later if you want to hear. But my question is i really care for this band, because of what they contributed to me, that sounds a little bit corny i know, ha. But the thing is they're lesbians, And of what i've heard thats a very big sin. So i prayed for them one night and told god to ''cure'' them, i was crying, i was like a child.

But i've researched about homosexuliaty and christianity, Some sources claim that its not a sin, but the majority does. So my question is is homosexuality really a sin, and if it is, what does my prayers for them, or other people really do, Im sorry for this very complex question. But i've wanted to ask someone this for so long now. But i want them, the people i love, to be on the right direction and feel good, even though i might not be one day.
 
Upvote 0

razeontherock

Well-Known Member
May 24, 2010
26,546
1,480
WI
✟35,597.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Okay, i think i understand. My friends father must finally embrace Jesus as his Savior, before these things leave him alone.

This IS getting more complicated! If your friend's father is not a believer, you still CAN exert some positive influence, in many different ways. Very often, the most effective way to do this involves not saying a word to them, but praying on their behalf. (This is called "intercession," and also intercessory prayer. The Biblical book of Job concludes with a lesson about how powerful this is!)

This doesn't remove the importance of being around him, and "letting your light shine" as you interact with him, and speaking as you get the chance.

But I must point out that quite the opposite of what you seem to expect, whatever these evil spirits are, they are likely to be MORE troublesome if and when this person turns to the Lord. It's even likely that they're bothering him now, solely because he may be close to doing that already. So this is a VERY important situation, and an important time, for you.

Again, victory = recognizing EVERY good thing as being G-d Himself, in the person of the Holy Ghost, through the Lord Jesus Christ. If some of those good things happen to be in you, in your mind, in your heart, etc., do NOT allow that to inflate your ego or make you think you are anything other than a jar of clay, made from dirt. I don't mean to be harsh or mean, but this degree of humility is ESSENTIAL, and where evil spirits usually attack first!

2 Corinthians 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices."

That leads me to another question.

Do you think my prayers help him at all, or for the other people i pray, even though i dont speak to them at all?

YES!! A couple other things are important to understand:

1) G-d sees our prayers as a sweet-smelling perfume. This also enables us to stay in His Presence better, and that is what changes us, making us more like Jesus.

2) Our prayers should be for what we KNOW G-d wants already, not to try to get G-d to change His mind for us:

2 Cor 1:20 For all the promises of God in him [are] yea, and in him Amen"

I take this to mean we are to use our dominion (what he gave mankind via Adam and Eve) to put our "so be it" along with what we know He already says yes to. this is a VERY deep subject all by itself, and I have no idea what you may already know on the topic?

So we KNOW G-d wants this person not to be oppressed by the devil. How?

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil"

tegan and sara ... they're lesbians, And of what i've heard thats a very big sin.

i've researched about homosexuliaty and christianity, Some sources claim that its not a sin, but the majority does. So my question is is homosexuality really a sin, and if it is, what does my prayers for them, or other people really do, Im sorry for this very complex question.

Don't apologize - this is important stuff! First of all, I understand that music can be uplifting. I'm a musician myself; just got back from playing bass in Church, and am about to start practicing trumpet and keyboards, and may have a rehearsal tonight.

Next, be honest with yourself: could you care about people who are thoroughly unattractive and even ugly as much as you care about tegan and sara? You don't need to answer me or answer here, but addressing this in honesty before your Lord can be very revealing of what is in our hearts. If you can't, it is likely your prayers have the wrong motivation. Again, I don't mean to be harsh, but the Truth only sets us free when we know it.

Next, practicing homosexuality is a sin, but all sin carries the same consequence of separation from G-d. And all of us can come to G-d the same way, via the Cross. It's important that we become very familiar with how this works!

So to reach out to anyone "in sin," we need to recognize that we ourselves struggle with things that are just as offensive to G-d, and He Loves us anyway. Far more than we can comprehend, or return to Him. His Love is indeed Pure!

In this frame of mind, how we pray for and otherwise reach out to the lost stays simple, and is much more effective. I think we should have a sub-forum devoted solely to how to pray ...

We don't really know what G-d has in mind for these 2, or anyone else. He might be working on other areas of their lives and be content to let this one thing go for now, or they might be completely oblivious to Him altogether. G-d CAN take sinful desires away from us:

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

This is a good thing to pray for ... also:

"he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned." (Isaiah 50:4)
 
Upvote 0

Theinterpol

Newbie
Mar 23, 2011
227
18
✟22,953.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Im eager to know more. But i dont know where to go from here. What do you think i should do except keeping on praying. to help these people. I myself am not a real christian, yet. so i bet my prayers arent exactly the strongest ones, but i will try to trust jesus more and have confiedence in my prayers. My faith is growing, on the inside, its harder for me to expand it out from my mind to my life. i also had a period for 2 months when my faith was as strongest in my life, where i tried to sin minimally and prayed everyday. but my faith went away and i started to think about these evil spirits instead. im afraid that this happens again now when i start to grow in faith again.

How do i help my friends father except praying. as you say they would become really dangerous, could they even kill him? should i continue pray for tegan and sara, not about the homsexuality part, but for them to be safe and happy, and maybe that god helps them along the way, i mean they were little their friend who was a christian learned them about jesus and they prayed for him and believed him, for a while, is this a step closer or far from jesus? What should my prayers motivate, following these guidlines. i also want to say that their mother, which seems like a nice person ,was a wiccan early in her life, thats ocult, it may be completly unimportant, but could this have contributed to sinful desires?

And all the things you have writen , i've read it like 3-4 times now. But the words go out from my mind as fast they came in. Its like my brain is a big mush. Im bad at english, but not this bad, i dont understand why my brain wont understand this whole content, i only seem to understand bits, for a few seconds then i forget them. sorry. maybe i need to read it a few more times before i should post, but i cant wait, this is very interesting.

''Next, be honest with yourself: could you care about people who are thoroughly unattractive and even ugly as much as you care about tegan and sara? You don't need to answer me or answer here, but addressing this in honesty before your Lord can be very revealing of what is in our hearts. If you can't, it is likely your prayers have the wrong motivation. Again, I don't mean to be harsh, but the Truth only sets us free when we know it''

I use to pray for all the people in the world sometimes, even for my enemies, i've had a period when i prayed for homosexual people, mainly, but thats because i had T&S in my mind, i dont know if that counts, or if i meant it, i think i did. Do i need to pray to god and ask him what i really want with my prayers and if i mean them, sorry again if i understood that wrong.

i dont know why i get confused, when instead this should enlighten me, i'll read trough them again 'till i understand them. Thank you for caring. Good luck with your music :)
 
Upvote 0