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Old_100th said:
Lil Angel Heart,

I have also asked you to provide Biblical support regarding you view of Positive Confession, which you have yet to do.

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I gave you one yesterday Old. . .was Jesus' positive words of confession not good enough? :)

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In Matt 4:3, 4 it says, "Now wen the tempter came to Him, he said, "if you are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread." But He answered and said, "It is written, "Man shall not live by bread along, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God""
 
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Old_100th said:
Lil Angel Heart,

I have also asked you to provide Biblical support regarding you view of Positive Confession, which you have yet to do.

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I haven't because several people in this thread have already provided enough scripture backing it up, I would just be posting the same thing they did! ;)

 
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Old_100th said:
God created logic, therefore to violate it would be against his holy nature. Can you think of anywhere in the Bible where we are told that God can do anything? Please tell me if you can.
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I can. . I can!!!!!!
  • Luke 1:37 "For with God nothing shall be impossible."
  • Luke 18:27 "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."
  • Matt 19:26 "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Then. . .there's Is 55:8 where God says, "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the LORD."

So much for God having to do things according to our logic ey!
 
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Old_100th said:
Lil Angel Heart,

I have also asked you to provide Biblical support regarding you view of Positive Confession, which you have yet to do.

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I find it hard to believe that you have read the NT and haven't learned instruction on conversation. Now why do you suppose there is so much mention of it? I also liked the way you dodged the question I asked you about what would have happened to my son! You say not to go there. I say go there as it is a prime example of speaking the word against the enemy. Had my son NOT used the word he would've been harmed! He used the word and the enemy left. You refuse to admit the possibilities that could have happened but didn't because there is power in the name of Jesus! So speak it and learn
 
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Quaffer:

So much for God having to do things according to our logic ey![/QUOTE]

I think that you might want to explain what the texts you have cited mean as opposed to just citing them. I read them and can't see how they support your view. Proof-texting is cheap, let's do some exegesis.

Also, as I said God created logic. It is therefore silly to say that he would violate it.
 
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Quaffer:


I think that you might want to explain what the texts you have cited mean as opposed to just citing them. I read them and can't see how they support your view. Proof-texting is cheap, let's do some exegesis.

In fact I would say that if someone said that the Bible said something that is illogical I woundn't believe him because the Bible is inerrant and can't say anything illogical.

Also, as I said God created logic. It is therefore silly to say that he would violate it.
 
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Follower of Christ too said:
I find it hard to believe that you have read the NT and haven't learned instruction on conversation. Now why do you suppose there is so much mention of it? I also liked the way you dodged the question I asked you about what would have happened to my son! You say not to go there. I say go there as it is a prime example of speaking the word against the enemy. Had my son NOT used the word he would've been harmed! He used the word and the enemy left. You refuse to admit the possibilities that could have happened but didn't because there is power in the name of Jesus! So speak it and learn
I didn't dodge anything. I chose not to address a personal experience because if an experience doesn't line up with objective truth then it is based upon falsehood. Therefore discussion of objective reality is more relevent. If you want to share personal experiences then perhaps a Testimony forum would be better.

Also if I responed to your story there was a possibilty that you would respond emotionally and shift that way. I didn't come here to chat about experience I came to discuss theology.

For those reasons I did not respond to your story directly but that is my choice. If you were to respond to my arguements with information that objectivly addresses my points then I will respond.

I can understand how some might think that the NT speaks of some form of positive confesison if they come to the text with a metaphysical presuppositon biased towards some charismatic doctrines. However upon considering some of the major scriptures cited I began to see that the exegesis used is false.
 
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LilAngelHeart said:
I haven't because several people in this thread have already provided enough scripture backing it up, I would just be posting the same thing they did! ;)


I've responded to the scriptures cited munerous times. Never has anyone directly challenged my reading of them. Until someone successfully does I will have to assume I am correct. Simply posting verses is not good enough.

From now on I will only reply to objections that address my views. Restating over and over agian is phallic.
 
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You know it really does not have to be "positive confession".
When Jesus spoke to the fig tree, it was a curse... not a blessing.
But He believed He had what He said and it was done for Him.

Be it unto you according to your faith.
 
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Old_100th said:
Quaffer:

"So much for God having to do things according to our logic ey!"
I think that you might want to explain what the texts you have cited mean as opposed to just citing them. I read them and can't see how they support your view. Proof-texting is cheap, let's do some exegesis.

Also, as I said God created logic. It is therefore silly to say that he would violate it.
I did not say He would violate it. But our logic is not HIS logic. Therefore, unless our logic is conformed to His . . .our's is worthless.

And if you don't understand what Jesus meant when He said "nothing is impossible with God". . .well. . .I don't know that I could explain it any better. I think He said it pretty clearly.
 
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Quaffer said:
I did not say He would violate it. But our logic is not HIS logic. Therefore, unless our logic is conformed to His . . .our's is worthless.

And if you don't understand what Jesus meant when He said "nothing is impossible with God". . .well. . .I don't know that I could explain it any better. I think He said it pretty clearly.

Ah, I get it. God is so beyond us that we can't expect him to make any sense. Logic is not universal, God has his own brand. This mindset is sorry.

I understand what Christ is saying, but I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by citing this verse. Could you enlighten me? Ah, there I go being logical again!
 
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Old_100th said:
Ah, I get it. God is so beyond us that we can't expect him to make any sense. Logic is not universal, God has his own brand. This mindset is sorry.

I understand what Christ is saying, but I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by citing this verse. Could you enlighten me? Ah, there I go being logical again!
Actually Old, you seem to be out more for an argument than you are actual logic. We've given you logic along with scriptural proof but you refuse to accept it, opting instead to twist our words into things not being said and slinging insults. Due to that. . .the thread now has to be closed.
 
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