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Is it too much to ask for people to keep their mythologies out of other peoples bedrooms?
I'd say you just have your priorities straight.I wonder though, what about people who are technically heterosexual, but have no desire whatsoever to get married and/or have children. That is not a traditional role either.
So am I just as "bad" as homosexuals?
Is it too much to ask for people to keep their perversion out of the schools?
Is it too much to ask for people to keep their perversion out of the government?
One could ask the same thing of you, or of anyone, really. Is it too much to ask that heterosexuals keep their 'sexual status' out of the schools, and out of the government? Your argument doesn't work, especially since 'perversion' is pure opinion here, and likely based on religious convictions, which alone are not satisfactory reasons for declaring as such in the court of law, as per the First Amendment.Is it too much to ask for people to keep their perversion out of the schools?
Is it too much to ask for people to keep their perversion out of the government?
I'd say you just have your priorities straight.
And I should accept convoluted concepts of perversion why?
One could ask the same thing of you, or of anyone, really. Is it too much to ask that heterosexuals keep their 'sexual status' out of the schools, and out of the government? Your argument doesn't work, especially since 'perversion' is pure opinion here, and likely based on religious convictions, which alone are not satisfactory reasons for declaring as such in the court of law, as per the First Amendment.
A concept is an idea, or a thought. Morality isn't a concept or a thought. It is a set of governing rules laid out by the King of kings.
By his current logic, that would be correct. However, I would argue that homosexuality (specifically between males) is a threat to patriarchy and therefore also the current structure of our society as a whole.Yeah, but since I do not participate and the traditional male/female roles either, aren't I also a "a deviation, an irregularity, a wound" ? Homosexuals are no more obstacles to traditional relationships in society than I am.
lolA concept is an idea, or a thought. Morality isn't a concept or a thought. It is a set of governing rules laid out by the King of kings.
Really? So you're saying there are no absolutes? What's perversion to me might be ok for someone else and that's just fine?
Bingo.Really? So you're saying there are no absolutes? What's perversion to me might be ok for someone else and that's just fine?
Yeah, but since I do not participate and the traditional male/female roles either, aren't I also a "a deviation, an irregularity, a wound" ? Homosexuals are no more obstacles to traditional relationships in society than I am.
No, I never said that there are no absolutes, only that your opinion in this case is just that-an opinion. I've seen no demonstrable evidence to suggest otherwise.Really? So you're saying there are no absolutes? What's perversion to me might be ok for someone else and that's just fine?
Bingo.
I am yet to see any evidence that morality is anything but relative.The victim of a rapist might disagree with you.
There are indeed moral absolutes. There is a line that must be drawn. Your issue is that God has drawn the line far shorter than you would personally draw the line, but if He did not it would never get drawn. Because someone would always say that such and such isn't going to far.
Your issue is that God has drawn the line far shorter than you would personally draw the line, but if He did not it would never get drawn.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's precious. But it still doesn't answer why I need to accept convoluted notions of perversion.A concept is an idea, or a thought. Morality isn't a concept or a thought. It is a set of governing rules laid out by the King of kings.
I live in America. America is a democratic republic. Ergo, who cares what you consider your God's law. I don't have to, nor does anyone else in any official capacity what so ever. The faster this reality sinks in on you the better for everyone. If you want a theocracy I suggest perhaps Iran, or find a desert island you can buy on the cheap and start a the nation of King of Kingsvania.The issue isn't if they are obstacles or not (though they certainly are) the issue is that they forbidden by a higher law than even the law of the land. That is God's law. And yes that is the ruler by which the issue is measured. By human standards you are correct; sexual deviancy is not an issue. By God's standards it is.
The victim of a rapist might disagree with you.
There are indeed moral absolutes. There is a line that must be drawn. Your issue is that God has drawn the line far shorter than you would personally draw the line, but if He did not it would never get drawn. Because someone would always say that such and such isn't going to far.
i believe i quoted romans 14:14 once in this thread already...
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