"Poorly" designed eye can be used to test quantum mechanics

[SkyWriting]

Which ones what? Biochemical reactions proceed due to the same forces which drive any other chemical reaction. Why do hydrogen and oxygen combine to make water?

Exactly. Why does life exist?

 

[SkyWriting]

LOL! No need--there are plenty of actual biochemists who have.

Sure there are. Name them.

 

[SkyWriting]

No, it's more like molecule A combines with molecule B to form molecule D rather than E or F because of the local thermodynamic conditions plus the energy to overcome any kinetic barriers.

Is that your published answer? Where can we read it?

 

[Speedwell]

Is that your published answer? Where can we read it?

In any freshman-level chemistry text.

You obviously have your own, different idea of why chemical reactions take place. Why don't you just quit fooling around and tell us what it is?

 

[SkyWriting]

I really have to ask: Is English not your primary language, since you seem to have a serious problem understand what I said in my original comment to you.

Time to dig out that dusty ol' copy of how to win friends and influence people!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Time to dig out that dusty ol' copy of how to win friends and influence people!

Please answer my question: Is English not your primary language, since you seem to have a serious problem understanding what I said in my original comment to you.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It looks like you don't know about the double slit experiment.

I know about the double-slit experiment.

You can check for wave properties and find them.
But if you check for wave properties again, you can spot them twice.
But if you check for wave properties, then for particle properties
the wave information vanishes.

Checking for particle properties erases any wave properties
even after they have already happened.

Yes.

The researchers intentions change the outcome retroactively.
Strange but true.

As I said, it's the way the experiment is performed, the setup of the apparatus, that influences the results. The researcher's intent is only relevant to the way they perform the experiment. You can set up a machine to randomly change the way the measurement is performed and record the results with no-one present, and you'll get the same effects

 

[Ophiolite]

Exactly. Why does life exist?

It is an emergent property of organic chemistry, which is a consequence of the four fundamental forces and half a dozen or so universal constants. There are three principle views on this:
1. The forces, constants and consequent emergence were designed by a God.
2. This is just the way things are.
3. Who knows? Certainly not me.

 

[Ophiolite]

It is a direct reflection on you. That's the message your missing.

I suspect some of the messages you are missing are unprintable. A touch of humility and respect from you would not go amiss. You might find people then paid more attention to your views. One cannot focus on the content when the medium is so aggressive.

 

[SkyWriting]

I suspect some of the messages you are missing are unprintable. A touch of humility and respect from you would not go amiss. You might find people then paid more attention to your views. One cannot focus on the content when the medium is so aggressive.

Would you like to provide an example?

 

[SkyWriting]

It is an emergent property of organic chemistry, which is a consequence of the four fundamental forces and half a dozen or so universal constants. There are three principle views on this:
1. The forces, constants and consequent emergence were designed by a God.
2. This is just the way things are.
3. Who knows? Certainly not me.

Which four fundamental forces suggest that life should evolve from nonliving material?
How does nonliving material benefit from life?
What sustains life under constant pressure and stress?
Why does life not simply succumb to hostile conditions?
What benefit does life provide to a suitable environment or set of conditions?

 

[SkyWriting]

I know about the double-slit experiment.

Yes.

As I said, it's the way the experiment is performed, the setup of the apparatus, that influences the results. The researcher's intent is only relevant to the way they perform the experiment. You can set up a machine to randomly change the way the measurement is performed and record the results with no-one present, and you'll get the same effects

If that is the researchers intention, then the results will change to match their intention.
They will find the results they are looking for, either wave or particle properties.
That's the part you are missing. The results will change.

 

[Ophiolite]

Would you like to provide an example?

An example of which? Your unpleasant posts, or an unprintable response? If the latter, the clue to my response lies in the implicit significance of "unprintable". If the former I would be prepared to take the time to point out a couple of examples, if you would give me some assurance you would seek to modify your posting style accordingly.

 

[Ophiolite]

Which four fundamental forces suggest that life should evolve from nonliving material?

I don't understand your question. There are not alternative sets of four fundamental forces. There is only a single set. If you meant to ask about that set, then nothing suggests that life should evolve, other than our observations that it has occurred. At this time we do not know if it a common occurence, a rare one, or perhaps even unique. Why do you think such a suggestion should be present?

How does nonliving material benefit from life?

It doesn't. Benefits are not something that are applicable to non-living material in any philosophy I am familiar with, except in a colloquial sense. Why do you think there should be a benefit?

What sustains life under constant pressure and stress?

Continuing access to external energy sources and effective reproductive strategies derived via evolution.

Why does life not simply succumb to hostile conditions?

It does. Routinely and continuously. However, the successful life forms find conditions that are not hostile to them. This is achieved in part through modifying their environment and in part by adapting to it (through evolution).

What benefit does life provide to a suitable environment or set of conditions?

None that I am aware of. As previously noted benefits do not accrue to the inanimate. Why do you think they would?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

If that is the researchers intention, then the results will change to match their intention.
They will find the results they are looking for, either wave or particle properties.
That's the part you are missing. The results will change.

My point is only that the researcher's intention is only relevant to how they set up the measurement; it has no other influence on the results obtained, regardless of whether it's a standard 2-slit demonstration or a delayed choice quantum eraser experiment.

In other words, the researcher's intention has no more effect on quantum experiments than on any other experiments. The 'Conscious Collapse' variation of the Copenhagen interpretation of QM is not valid or useful.

If you think intent is necessary or relevant, it's worth remembering that the first observations of these quantum effects were unintended and came as a considerable surprise.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Time to dig out that dusty ol' copy of how to win friends and influence people!

Nah. A little respect for other people should be enough.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Which four fundamental forces suggest that life should evolve from nonliving material?

The strong and weak nuclear forces, electromagnetism, and gravity.

How does nonliving material benefit from life?

You'll have to define what you mean by 'benefit' with respect to non-living material to get an answer to that.

What sustains life under constant pressure and stress?

Homeostasis.

Why does life not simply succumb to hostile conditions?

It does, eventually. But in the meantime it uses energy gradients to enable a local reduction in entropy via metabolism to allow homeostasis, growth, and reproduction.

What benefit does life provide to a suitable environment or set of conditions?

You'll have to define what you mean by 'benefit' with respect to 'suitable environments or sets of conditions' to get an answer to that.

 

[tas8831]

I had cataract surgery and had the lenses of my eyes replaced with man-made lenses. The man-made lenses are good but not as good as the original.

The ones that failed and had to be replaced...

 

[tas8831]

Why are animals sleeping ? The one which could evolve the first to not need sleep would rule over rest of them because it could hunt these who sleep and eat them o__O

Weird 'design', right?

 

[Chinchilla]

Weird 'design', right?

Weird but still design thanks for acknowledging it .

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;