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[lithium.]

Originally posted by wb3
If there is no after life doesn't that take away all morals. If there is no after life then we have no standards by which to live because none of it really matters. Is this what you are saying.

That is the biggest cr** i have ever heard. If there wasn't a after life wouldn't mean that there is no morals, and for no standards, to live by, we have laws and we have a HEART and MIND, and you said none of it really matters, Life matters, you matter, I matter, The human race matters but we don't need a after life to prove that.

 

[LadyShea]

I don't believe in an afterlife...therefore I need to make this life the best it can be. Being moral (cooperation with others) is beneficial to me and everyone I have to share the planet with.

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by wb3
I can't answer that because I have grown up with good morals and that is really somewhere I don't want to go. However, you didn't answer my question.

I have grown up with morals and i don't believe in god or afterlife. Are you saying just cause you don't believe in god and an after life you have no morals.

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by LadyShea
I don't believe in an afterlife...therefore I need to make this life the best it can be. Being moral (cooperation with others) is beneficial to me and everyone I have to share the planet with.

Thats what i was trying to say. Great Post LadyShea.

 

[npetreley]

Originally posted by seesaw
I have grown up with morals and i don't believe in god or afterlife. Are you saying just cause you don't believe in god and an after life you have no morals.

I wouldn't say that. You can believe in G~d and an afterlife and still have no morals.

 

[LadyShea]

Good point npetreley (can't believe I am agreeing with you on something )

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by npetreley
I wouldn't say that. You can believe in G~d and an afterlife and still have no morals.

yes you are correct.

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by LadyShea
Good point npetreley (can't believe I am agreeing with you on something )

lol same here.

 

[wb3]

First, I didn't say to have morals you have to believe in God. However, to be someone who is truly righteous you must believe in God. I have known people that weren't saved that easily could have passed for a Christian. Not to say it is immposible for a Christian to act unChristian, but a true Christian shouldn't act as this world acts. (I am going to be blunt, but truthful.) In fact it should hurt a true Christian to act as the world acts.

 

[Douglaangu]

And how would a 'True christian' act?

 

[wb3]

Guess I am the "devil's advocate" on this one. Hey?

 

[lithium.]

NO.

 

[wb3]

A true Christian will act as God directs him/her to act. Everyone believes in something. Even an atheist has to believe in something.
Ex: pain, wind, me. You can't se anyone of these things

 

[wb3]

Got to go

 

[Douglaangu]

And how would god direct them to act?

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by wb3
A true Christian will act as God directs him/her to act. Everyone believes in something. Even an atheist has to believe in something.
Ex: pain, wind, me. You can't se anyone of these things

Since god doesn't talk to anyone, and since no one has seen god, god can't direct someone.

 

[Douglaangu]

Originally posted by seesaw
Since god doesn't talk to anyone, and since no one has seen god, god can't direct someone.

And on that note, before anyone brings up the times when 'god' has 'talked' to people - Bicameral brains, and the effect that they have.

 

[Soul_Searcher]

A TRUE Christian should love his neighbor as him/her-self, and follow the commandments. Some do, most don't. A TRUE Christian should not judge, but very few don't, most do. A TRUE Christian should sell all he/she has and follow Jesus, live a spiritual life and leave the material behind. How many do?

But really, shouldn't everyone follow the Commandments? (Well, atheists are excused from the first 4.) Shouldn't everyone love their neighbor as themself? Shouldn't we all lead a more spiritual and less material life?

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Soul_Searcher
A TRUE Christian should love his neighbor as him/her-self, and follow the commandments. Some do, most don't. A TRUE Christian should not judge, but very few don't, most do. A TRUE Christian should sell all he/she has and follow Jesus, live a spiritual life and leave the material behind. How many do?

But really, shouldn't everyone follow the Commandments? (Well, atheists are excused from the first 4.) Shouldn't everyone love their neighbor as themself? Shouldn't we all lead a more spiritual and less material life?

I agree with alot of the commandments. But I don't even think there is evidence of the real tablets that holds the commandments.

 

[OneLargeToe]

I would say a moral athiest is a better person than a Christian.  Why?  An athiest does good for the sake of goodness.  Unlike the Christian who would do good for fear of eternal punishment (Hell) or the temptation of eternal reward (Heaven).