I recommend you read the first few chapters of "Atom". That will give you a good idea of how its possible.
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I recommend you read the first few chapters of "Atom". That will give you a good idea of how its possible.
Hi Seesaw,
Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD. 20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt:
This verse is telling us of an alter and witness to the Lord, and the location provided pinpoints this structure as the Great Pyramid.
1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
And here it is telling us that there are three physical records.
One of water, one of blood, and one of the Spirit.
The record in water is in the form of ice. And it is the ice-core from Greenland that I have been talking so much about.
The one in blood is the Shroud of Turin, the burial cloth of Jesus, and the physical record of his crucifiction and resurrection. The image was formed during the resurrection process.
And the one in Spirit is again the Great Pyramid, which was formed by the Spirit with the formation of the earth.
The evidence is plain to see, IF you look and study these things.
What you accept is up to you, but God has provided the evidence that is promised. As such, there will be no excuse for anyone saying there was no proof left by God concerning His Word in the world.
I have searched for Truth most of my life, and I have found it. I recognize and understand the evidence left by God, even if other do not. And the Word of God is true.
Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD. 20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt:
This verse is telling us of an alter and witness to the Lord, and the location provided pinpoints this structure as the Great Pyramid.
1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
And here it is telling us that there are three physical records.
One of water, one of blood, and one of the Spirit.
The record in water is in the form of ice. And it is the ice-core from Greenland that I have been talking so much about.
The one in blood is the Shroud of Turin, the burial cloth of Jesus, and the physical record of his crucifiction and resurrection. The image was formed during the resurrection process.
And the one in Spirit is again the Great Pyramid, which was formed by the Spirit with the formation of the earth.
The evidence is plain to see, IF you look and study these things.
What you accept is up to you, but God has provided the evidence that is promised. As such, there will be no excuse for anyone saying there was no proof left by God concerning His Word in the world.
I have searched for Truth most of my life, and I have found it. I recognize and understand the evidence left by God, even if other do not. And the Word of God is true.
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Still is'nt solid. My curious question is what happened to the anti matter we had in the begining. We can current make anitmatter in places like sern and Slac but we have barely manufactured enough to power to run a 100 watt light bulb for 10 hours.
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I just told you.
The Great Pyramid.
The Shroud of Turin.
The ARCSS/GISP2 Ice Core
These are actual physical realities, not Bible verses.
The verses refer to them.
The Great Pyramid.
The Shroud of Turin.
The ARCSS/GISP2 Ice Core
These are actual physical realities, not Bible verses.
The verses refer to them.
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those places are real, the Shroud isn't proven to be jesus's, I don't even remember what question i asked you anyway lol. you might have found evidence of god, but science hasn't.
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Seesaw, "I agree with alot of the commandments. But I don't even think there is evidence of the real tablets that holds the commandments."
Does it mattter? Again, it's the message, not the messenger (or the vehicle) that matters. Just take the last six commandments; what would happen if everyone lived by them faithfully? And if one 'took no other gods before God,' then money, power, pride and the rest would not be our gods and we'd see we're all in this together, not every man for himself.
Does it mattter? Again, it's the message, not the messenger (or the vehicle) that matters. Just take the last six commandments; what would happen if everyone lived by them faithfully? And if one 'took no other gods before God,' then money, power, pride and the rest would not be our gods and we'd see we're all in this together, not every man for himself.
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Hi Froedin. "How would a more spiritual life look like?"
It would be one free of material need, more--better--best; it would be one where you put others before yourself; it would be one where greed, gluttony, pride and the rest of the 'seven deadly sins' have no place; it would be one where Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, atheists, etc., respect each others' views without judgment. These are just some examples--I'm sure you can come up with your own.
It would be one free of material need, more--better--best; it would be one where you put others before yourself; it would be one where greed, gluttony, pride and the rest of the 'seven deadly sins' have no place; it would be one where Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, atheists, etc., respect each others' views without judgment. These are just some examples--I'm sure you can come up with your own.
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OneLargeToe, "I would say a moral athiest is a better person than a Christian. Why? An athiest does good for the sake of goodness. Unlike the Christian who would do good for fear of eternal punishment (Hell) or the temptation of eternal reward (Heaven)."
To do good for the sake of doing good should be the only measuring stick, I agree. To act 'good' to avoid punishment or to reap a reward defeats the purpose. I think this is why Jesus said, "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
To do good for the sake of doing good should be the only measuring stick, I agree. To act 'good' to avoid punishment or to reap a reward defeats the purpose. I think this is why Jesus said, "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
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Duane, I missed your Greenland ice thing, but the pyramid is not an alter to God, but a magnificent tomb that has some fascinating astonomical qualities.
The Shroud of Turin has never been proven one way or another to be Jesus' burial shroud, nor do I believe it is, simply because it goes against burial custom and is far too perfect. You mention the image was made during the Resurrection, yet when Jesus raised others from the dead there was nothing noted other than they awoke as from a sleep.
I still contend that those looking for 'proof' of God in the Bible are doomed to failure because one has to ignore so much error and contradiction. BUT, if one simply looks for God within one's self, and within Nature, then is becomes VERY easy to see.
And the best way to 'prove' God's existence to others is to truly follow the commandments and live a spiritual life; lead by example of your life as you are taught by Jesus to live it.
The Shroud of Turin has never been proven one way or another to be Jesus' burial shroud, nor do I believe it is, simply because it goes against burial custom and is far too perfect. You mention the image was made during the Resurrection, yet when Jesus raised others from the dead there was nothing noted other than they awoke as from a sleep.
I still contend that those looking for 'proof' of God in the Bible are doomed to failure because one has to ignore so much error and contradiction. BUT, if one simply looks for God within one's self, and within Nature, then is becomes VERY easy to see.
And the best way to 'prove' God's existence to others is to truly follow the commandments and live a spiritual life; lead by example of your life as you are taught by Jesus to live it.
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Soull_Searcher,
Jesus raised from the dead, from sleep to awake. But they were not resurrected. The resurrection process changes the body's properties into something else. That is what happened to Jesus. Not to the others He raised from the dead. They, as far as I now, still died later on.
The shroud may not be proven, but the evidence uncovered so far just leave the same questions. No one knows how the image was formed. There are no explainations for its existance. The negative evidence is quite compelling, because even to this day it can not be recreated or explained.
The Great Pyramid is the altar and witness to the Lord. And no one really knows its origin. a lot of speculation and a few claims. But it to is still unexplained as to how it was built and where they got the knowledge to do it with such perfection. Too many little things like all the astronomical data contained in the geometry, the cement that was used in between the blocks, that no other had as far as I know. How they got such a fine polish on the casing stones, where none other had it. Lots of things.
Your last line I agree with totally.
Jesus raised from the dead, from sleep to awake. But they were not resurrected. The resurrection process changes the body's properties into something else. That is what happened to Jesus. Not to the others He raised from the dead. They, as far as I now, still died later on.
The shroud may not be proven, but the evidence uncovered so far just leave the same questions. No one knows how the image was formed. There are no explainations for its existance. The negative evidence is quite compelling, because even to this day it can not be recreated or explained.
The Great Pyramid is the altar and witness to the Lord. And no one really knows its origin. a lot of speculation and a few claims. But it to is still unexplained as to how it was built and where they got the knowledge to do it with such perfection. Too many little things like all the astronomical data contained in the geometry, the cement that was used in between the blocks, that no other had as far as I know. How they got such a fine polish on the casing stones, where none other had it. Lots of things.
Your last line I agree with totally.
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The problem is can you proof it, can you proof that jesus was raised from the dead. No you can't the only place it says it is in the bible. And since no one else has ever been raised from the dead I kind of believe that its impossible.
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Well, I guess if you do not want to accept the proof left with the shroud, then you will not have any. Just what are you looking for, anyway, that you would accept?
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