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Poll: Does the Theory of Evolution have practical applications?

Does the Theory of Evolution have practical applications?

  • I'm an evolutionist: NO, the Theory of Evolution does NOT have practical applications.

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  • I'm a creationist: I am unsure if the Theory of Evolution has practical applications.

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  • I'm an evolutionist: I am unsure if the Theory of Evolution has practical applications.

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FrumiousBandersnatch

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Until you ToEists learn that microevolutionary changes are random events where the joint probabilities are computed using the multiplication rule, you will make all kinds of mathematically irrational claims about evolution. And you do that to the detriment of those suffering drug-resistant infections and failed cancer treatments.
Multi-drug treatments drug-resistant infections have been in use for some years now. Multi-drug treatments for cancer have been researched for some years - the problem, until recently, was the general toxicity of the drugs. But treatments are improving.
 
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Alan Kleinman

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Multi-drug treatments drug-resistant infections have been in use for some years now. Multi-drug treatments for cancer have been researched for some years - the problem, until recently, was the general toxicity of the drugs. But treatments are improving.
Of course, multidrug treatments have been used for years. Edward Tatum pointed out the reason why these work in his 1958 Nobel Laureate Lecture. It is the multiplication rule. Why you don't think this rule applies to reptiles and fish is very curious.
 
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Frank Robert

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At the risk of bringing in a different topic I
understand that climate change has a lot of
models.
I think that is a good example. The best criticism of climate change has been against the models which in turn force the molders, not just to defend the models, but to improve on their models.
 
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Frank Robert

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Alan Kleinman

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I am more or less sure that BAND proponents would agree with you yet none of their hypothesis are supported by empirical evidence.

‘Birds Are Not Dinosaurs’: A Case Study in Science Denial?
That's the interpretation of the empirical evidence. Why don't the believers in the ToE interpret the Kishony and Lenski experiments? Instead they argue that DNA evolution in bacteria is somehow different than in other replicators. Or they argue that laboratory evidence is somehow different than "real" world evidence. That's right, these experiments are not set up for extinction whereas in the real world extinction occurs 99% of the time. It sure makes believers in the ToE appear to be experimental evidence deniers.
 
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Hmm, Matthew 7:1-5 comes to mind...
Ah, the favorite and only verses that atheists know from the Bible. I'm glad you discovered something important from your in-depth study of the Bible. You should read more from that book.
 
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Ah, the favorite and only verses that atheists know from the Bible. I'm glad you discovered something important from your in-depth study of the Bible. You should read more from that book.
You'd be surprised - some atheists here know the bible better than most of the theists. Not myself, although having spent my first 15 years in Christian schooling, I'm not unfamiliar with it.
 
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That's the interpretation of the empirical evidence. Why don't the believers in the ToE interpret the Kishony and Lenski experiments? Instead they argue that DNA evolution in bacteria is somehow different than in other replicators. Or they argue that laboratory evidence is somehow different than "real" world evidence. That's right, these experiments are not set up for extinction whereas in the real world extinction occurs 99% of the time. It sure makes believers in the ToE appear to be experimental evidence deniers.
You are basically confirming that until you see a bird, likely a modern one, popping out of the a dinosaur egg you will reject the preponderance of evidence and affirm BAND. OK, explain to us lesser beings the empirical evidence for BAND and that it is not science denial?

Several experts on Peaceful Science and Sandwalk have told you that your math doesn't actually deal with selection at all, only with mutation. Your response has been is always the same. You accuse them of being unable to do math and unable to understand simple laboratory experiments. When Dr. S gave you an opportunity to negotiate a simulation where you and the experts disagree on the results you resisted his efforts and disappeared.
 
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Alan Kleinman

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You'd be surprised - some atheists here know the bible better than most of the theists. Not myself, although having spent my first 15 years in Christian schooling, I'm not unfamiliar with it.
Tell me something Frumious, why is it when someone comes along and says the ToE is mathematically irrational nonsense based on the mathematical and evolutionary experimental evidence that the believers in the ToE respond like it is some kind of violation of a religious tenet?
 
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Tell me something Frumious, why is it when someone comes along and says the ToE is mathematically irrational nonsense based on the mathematical and evolutionary experimental evidence that the believers in the ToE respond like it is some kind of violation of a religious tenet?
Mostly because of your attitude. We understand your probability calculations--despite your constant snotty remarks about our lack of basic math education--but think they are wrongly applied. Any attempt to discuss the matter with you results in more unpleasantness from you but no substantive reply. We also suspect that you are a biblical creationist lacking in candor about your true motives.
 
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Alan Kleinman

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Mostly because of your attitude. We understand your probability calculations--despite your constant snotty remarks about our lack of basic math education--but think they are wrongly applied. Any attempt to discuss the matter with you results in more unpleasantness from you but no substantive reply. We also suspect that you are a biblical creationist lacking in candor about your true motives.
So show us how to do the math correctly and prove your religious tenet. You won't.
 
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MOD HAT ON

DUE TO MULTIPLE RULE VIOLATIONS


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MOD HAT OFF
 
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