Please help to ignite the Great Re-Awakening in Europe

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Hi there Helen, we did have someone in our church head to Tartu in Estonia where her group helped to build a new church. She's staying and raising family there (married to an Australian who moved there with her) but she's given a couple talks on visits back to the US, said that a good chunk of the Americans there did have Estonian, or Finnish or some other Baltic ancestry I think, and it does help to move based on special visas for those with ancestry. But having said that, she apparently did not have such ancestry nor did her husband, instead he had experience in IT and apparently both Estonia and Latvia are heavily recruiting Americans, Canadians and Australians with computer programming and software experience. So as a practical matter that helped the visa and naturalization process, and the church members already set up there (both local and other Americans) also helped with the paperwork. She said Estonian can be a challenging language, but it's not hard as some make it out to be, you do pick up pretty fast once there. Good luck with your mission plans, I'm sure they need more people with your dedication there!
 
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Thank you and blessings to all who've contributed such specific and valuable information for all us looking to do missions overseas! A fairly short question here and I apololize if it has been asked, has anyone here done ministries in the Baltics, esp. in Estonia but also in Latvia (the two main countries we're interested in?). I have Estonian and some Latvian ancestry and have been interested in getting a visa through descent, but not sure of specifics and even less sure about efforts already taking place, esp. in church rebuilding and refurbishing, though of course new church construction is also great interest for us. Would love to hear from anyone involved!

Greetings Helen C,
Our network of churches has had ministers involved in missions in both Estonia and Latvia, and in the Baltic and Finn regions in general so there are active efforts here. As I have come to understand from the reports, the churches in the Baltics were not as severely effected by Soviet anti-church efforts since the Baltics were not within the USSR as long, and apparently communist policy by the 1950's had taken a more hands off policy with regard to the churches esp. outside Russia, to conciliate the local population. Still the churches did suffer somewhat due to neglect, and so much of the effort as I understand, has been with church restoration and refurbishment. Also it is true that most of our missionaries there, as far as I know do have some Baltics ancestry (or nearby, I think Finnish-Americans, Finnish-Canadians and Finnish-Australians also have automatic citizenship options in at least Estonia through some kind of ancestral connection, same with many German-Americans in the Baltics).

But not all do, and it is true apparently that North Americans, Australians and New Zealanders in special skills categories do have some kind of expedited entry into I believe Estonia and Latvia at least, as long as they make an effort to learn Estonian or Latvian within 5 or 10 years or so. I don't know what the skills categories are specifically but I have heard of IT and programmers, system administrators, but also audio engineers and construction workers or civil engineers getting such visas, and in fact this often comes in handy with their church-related efforts too! Salaries are also apparently well high in the Baltics while costs are low, so it's easy to raise a family so long as one readily adopts the culture there.
 
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Greetings DanielDF,
Blessings and deep thanks for your ongoing efforts with church-building and conversion. As it is written in Matthew 5:13-16, "Ye are the salt of the earth... Ye are the light of the world... and it shineth unto all that are in the house", and it is works like yours that bring the Gospel to the places where it is needed most. Prayers and blessings for all that you and your flock are doing.
 
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Thus Continental Europe might seem to be a curious choice of a place to launch a mass evangelizing mission, but Europe today, of course, has essentially become a secular society hungering for a spiritual past which it has largely lost, and does not quite know how to regain
Good point..
- I agree.
- Even though, this post/OP is from 2006.
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Interesting to note:
Many Christian Missions (Protestant)..started in Europe.
Example:
Moravian story..in Herrnhut, Germany.
- During the 18th century..
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I visited Herrnhut..some years ago.
- & met some Christians.
They told me..
- "We are praying for Spiritual Awakening/Revival in Germany.
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There are Christians in Europe..concerned about,
- Spiritual condition/issue in their countries.
- I met some of them.
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I visited/spent time..many countries (Europe).
 
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Greetings Pioneer3mm,
Thank you for your kinds words and informative accounts. Even as a historian myself of the Church in the West and the Reformation, I was not aware of Herrnhut and its own revival. In looking it up and speaking with some of our members working in that general part of Germany and similar regions in France, I learned a lot from your post! Quite fascinating and encouraging, and lately there are apparently many ministry groups active in everything from new Bible printing and distribution to church building and refurbishment. A great model for mission outreach and truly connecting to communities with a hunger for spiritual reinvigoration. Are you and-or your church currently active in ministries in that region or district?
 
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I visited Herrnhut..
- Because..it is considered as the place where..
- 'Protestant Mission' started.
I am not involved in..mission/ministry work there (in that region/district).
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I have been working with Christian leaders who are involved..in pioneering work/missions.
- In 'unreached areas & restricted countries'(Asia & Africa).
 
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Greetings Pioneer3mm,
Thank you for sharing this background, many of us too began with missions in the developing world years ago where we cut our teeth on overseas ministries (before shifting our focus to Europe), agree the experience is of great value for building mission skills, many of which can be difficult to teach. We have officially put Herrnhut on our own itinerary, for evangelical missions especially, it sounds like a site of great inspiration for our efforts and goals. Your experiences, travels, and accomplishments all sound very fascinating and inspiring too, so please feel free to share them here anytime, we are always keen to vicariously experience the successes (and adventures) of other dedicated globetrotting ministers in their own efforts!
 
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Another big thank you to all of you who've reached out to provide helpful advice and tips on some of the practical basics of navigating the visas, documents and general moves to start our ministry overseas! Just a little update since last year, and a happy one since we first started looking around on some ideas of getting ourselves and some our fellow parishioners settled overseas, for our European ministry plans. Thanks in a huge part to your tips and messages, we were able to arrange appointments with some consulates about qualifying for citizenship in Europe, and we found out that both me and my husband qualify based on our ancestry! Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Ohio all have great consular officials and resources to help with this, partly thanks to there have been so many Americans in these regions of Polish, German, Latvian, Lithuanian, Hungarian and Irish descent seeking some assistance in bringing their families to Europe. Although most aren't doing formal mission work, it turns out many have brought their worship, Catholic and Protestant alike, back to their ancestral lands and are attending or helping with churches in Europe! It was quite the eye opener because the consulates don't officially log this sort of thing but so many Americans mentioned in their consular appts. that they're well aware of it, and at least informally even have some resources to help with ministries. Another little bit of assistance in addition to what our churches and support networks themselves can provide!

And it does turn out yes, you can indeed move to France or another European Union country after you get your citizenship in whichever, is the country you or your spouse has the ancestry in. Or both, luckily for us! The EU has a defining rule that says if you're an EU citizen, in any of the countries in Europe in the EU, then you can not only move to live in another EU country but work there too. And so once settled in our countries of ancestry, we can then move ourselves and our kids to France, work and focus on our ministry! Of course you'll have to learn the language there and how things work in general, but they're all amazingly helpful with things like that because the Europeans are constantly having to move around and learn each other's languages, cultures and the way the administrations do things. One of the consulates in fact gave us a contact overseas, both in Poland and France, and they both have free language classes and jobs assistance for Americans, and people from places like Brazil, Canada, Australia, Argentina and other countries, who move back to Europe. They're also amazingly family-friendly there. We have two young ones and a third on the way with our little boy due in June or July, and the EU authorities provide all kinds of programs to make it very easy--we get family leave there, child care, pre-school and all kinds of assistance for our kids in Europe, even if they're born in America!

As for the area of France specifically where we want to get set up, in the smaller towns and cities around Marseilles, Nice or Nimes, turns out there's already a huge number of Americans doing ministry work! Not sure how it got started but apparently there was a big group of missionaries decades ago from the Plains states down to Oklahoma and Texas, where it sounds like the US missionary organizations are centered, they got in contact with a church group over in Nimes and voila, they created a kind of core where a lot of other Americans could come over and help! And a lot of them have done the same thing we are. We got information on a group of around 30 US missionaries working with that organization in France, and of them, only 4 or 5 of them had any actual French ancestry. One of them distant Huguenot ancestry, another from Louisiana, the others from around Maine or upper New England. Everyone else, they either came into France through a work visa or as students who then got sponsored or assistance to stay there, some through marriage but a lot did exactly what we're doing. They used their ancestry in Poland, Lithuania, Austria, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia or other places as stepping stone, got a citizenship permit and then moved to France from there! It's so great to see such a big community so committed and dedicated to this incredible accomplishment!
 
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Greetings Cecile,
Thank you for sharing your progress and findings with us. As committed as all of us are to the cause of missions and ministry overseas, the task can be daunting as we convert our basic ideas and plans into concrete actions and steps to take. Your words here are a comforting affirmation that the path to ministry remains open to all who embrace it, and with persistence and the blessings of the Lord and our faithful flocks, we will be guided to overcome all obstacles needed to spread the Good Word to those near and far.
 
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Planning to follow up on this more in subsequent posts, but wanted to start with an expression of even greater urgency for this effort after our inter-church meeting this past Sunday and further discussions early in the week. It's above all related to an important development in the destination countries--due to the heavy administrative pressures from the historic mass migration of millions of eastern Europeans into the European Union amidst the Ukraine conflict, we've learned that there has been a corresponding record outflow of the Arab, Turkish, Albanian, Kurdish, Iranian and other Muslims leaving the EU since February 2022, meaning that our historically successful conversion efforts, through which many of these individuals have gone back to start new churches and missions in their home countries, may be facing a shrinking window of opportunity. This also means that for any Americans, Canadians, Australians and others in our missionary groups who had been planning a move to the EU to do ministry, if you do happen to have the option to move up your plans, this would be an historic time to do so! Just to be clear about this, there will still be important opportunities and great value in mission work in Europe years down the road even as the population of potential converts and ex-Muslims shrinks as these individuals return to their home countries--the original efforts in the EU began decades ago to restore and build new churches in Europe, provide the Gospel to populations seeking to re-connect and simply helping to reconstitute those congregations with our own families, as we settle and integrate into those countries. All of those objectives will still be very much in place.

However as many of you involved in this effort know, an historic opportunity fell into our hands starting about 15 years ago as a small but significant population of refugees and migrant workers from countries like Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, Lebanon, Iran, Jordan and other nearby lands began to trickle into Europe, many of them already Christian (or Yazid or other religious minority) but many also Muslims deeply dissatisfied due to oppression back home and fanatics like ISIS, and open to ministry and the Gospel. The numbers have never been as large as some media headlines portray, in part since the majority go back home or to another country in the region (particularly the wealthier Gulf oil states, where there are many job opportunities) after a short stay of perhaps a couple years in Europe. But the remaining numbers, around a few million people, are still significant enough that we've been able to achieve a record number of conversions and new members of both established and new churches and Christian institutions in Europe in just the past decade alone. (Some of the new churches esp in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, France and Sweden in fact have a majority of recent converts among their congregants.)

And as has been discussed on several occasions here, this flock of ex-Muslim new converts in Europe, in particular, is of historic importance since for quite practical and immediate reasons, they are able to achieve something that we ourselves, from Western countries, cannot--going back to their home countries in the Middle Eastern region and North Africa, building churches and converting other members of their neighborhoods and locales to our faith. We obviously cannot do this as readily, not only due to potential political sensitivity but simply because those of us in the West do not have as ready access to the cultural and linguistic knowledge, as well as (of most importance) the local connections in the Middle East and within the North African region to achieve regional acceptance for church-building and attraction of locals to services, which often includes a sort of finesse and subtle efforts within villages and towns in the region to encourage the local churches to flourish. In this way, our ministries in Europe have provided us with one of the most historic successes over the past 1,400 years since we can, of course, provide ministry for those who flee to Europe, and the latter in turn are able to do what we cannot directly--bringing the Word of the Lord to their brethren back home. As a result we've been able to experience the joy of a Christian revival within the Middle East and North Africa that we haven't seen in over a millennium. And those churches and new congregations have been stable and able to attract new followers in turn in the region--once again the key to this is that the converts from those cultures are able to minister to their fellow citizens back in their home countries in ways that we can't, and navigate the cultural, political and social subtleties necessary to gain local acceptance. In many cases, and quite importantly, this has even involved the conversion and active support of local elites in the region, which in turn has led to sustained conversion and the rooting of large and growing Christian communities there. This is one of the reasons why for our network of churches, the missions in the EU have taken all precedence, to take advantage of this state of affairs while we have the fleet of new potential missionaries we can reach in the form of that small but significant refugee population in Europe, preparing to return and bring the Gospel to their brothers and sisters in their homelands.

Now as we have learned from our contacts in Europe, this option is narrowing faster than we had expected, due to the pressures from the mass in-flows as result of the conflict in Ukraine. The slides at our inter-church conference on Sunday were quite striking, and it's hard to convey the extent of the mass migration into Europe from not only the Ukraine but also Russia and Belarus. By some estimates, close to 7-8 million eastern Europeans have flowed into the EU in the past 4 months alone, but it is widely believed that on the order of 10 to 11 million, and perhaps up to 15 million, will be pouring into the European Union countries as the war winds down and in the months and the first year or two afterward (as the migrant flows are often highest after the immediate conflict itself). And while some of the migrants will go back, most are expected to stay. Early indications are that many of the Ukrainians, a very strong and patriotic people, are indeed already returning to rebuild their homeland. Still the studies and reports suggest that a bit less than half of the Ukrainians will be remaining permanently in the EU. Of far greater importance in sheer numbers, however, is that based on our reports so far, almost all of the Russians and Belarussians who have made it into the EU will be staying there permanently, and indeed the authorities have confirmed they can never be sent back, as virtually all of them are asylees fleeing the danger of conscription, persecution or other repercussions if they go back to Russia or Belarus. And this number is expected to be enormous, already exceeding 4 million and by most estimates expected to exceed 10 million people! To put into perspective, this is an even greater mass movement than during the world wars, and it's putting great strain on the EU's housing, jobs and administrative resources.

For that reason, there has been an even greater and more rapid outflow than expected of the Syrians, Iraqis, Turks, Kurds, North Africans, Persians, Lebanese and other such populations in Europe, back to their home countries or to the broader Middle Eastern and North African region. France, Spain and Italy in particular have seen a surge of Algerians, Tunisians and Moroccans going back home or to oil-producing countries in the Gulf, while Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands, Belgium and other countries are seeing a mass return of the Syrians, Turks, Iraqis and other guests in their countries, back to their homelands or to neighboring countries--over half of that population already, from our recent updates. The reason, of course, is that with available administrative resources and housing in the EU being redirected to the mass in-flows from eastern Europe, there simply isn't much left for prior migrants (who are also losing their temporary status and options to stay), thus the mass return home among the migrants and refugees from the Middle Eastern and North African region. What this means for us then is that we may have a shorter window than expected to bring the Gospel to these individuals before they make their back to their home countries, with the historic results we have been witnessing. And thus once again, if you've even briefly considered the opportunities for ministry within the EU, don't hesitate, since now would be the time! Particularly for those of you with documentable European ancestry--able to qualify you and your families for jus sanguinis (citizenship in Europe based on ancestral descent)--you can move to Europe and manage to become fully settled there quite rapidly. Don't worry too much about the logistics, learning the languages and getting set up with the local churches there--all of those arrangements can be made once you've gotten settled in Europe, and there is a large and well-established local infrastructure already there to help you with all of those steps. The key is to simply do what you can to initiate the process, as there is inevitably a delay with the administrative process that all EU countries have even for their ethnic diaspora returning home. (As a bonus for families in the United States, Canada and Australia who are homeowners, you'd be selling your home at the top of what most economists are now saying is a huge housing bubble, which would of course make the financial side of things even easier in setting up in the EU.) We'll have more particular updates and details as our own ministry teams work out the specifics.
 
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just wanted to add to the above, as one of the missionary families scouting and preparing for our move to Europe (and soon on the way, yay!), this is also a good time to make the move from the stand-point of the practical side of ministry overseas, especially for families coming from the US, Australia or Canada like we've been hearing. We'd been in touch with the consulate officials about our ancestry paperwork for the settlement in Europe, and in our case moving to France, it's a several step process of first moving to where we have citizenship based on ancestry, and then the spouse and kids' paperwork, which isn't as complicated as we thought once the ancestral visas are taken care of. And then after a period of settlement in our ancestral country (it varies from one to other), we have what amounts to a full EU passport and can move to anywhere else, including to France, but gain working rights immediately. But because of the issues mentioned above especially getting all the eastern European migrants settled into Europe, the consular services are giving a huge priority to settling people from the Americas and Australia with ancestral visas first, before work and student visas, so it's if anything a bit easier if you're coming in from that route.

Also because of the high home prices in North America, Australia and New Zealand lately, our financial advisors have been saying it's a big housing bubble, it's a perfect time to sell if you're a homeowner and use those proceeds to help smooth the transition to making the move to the European Union. Or if you don't own yet, to avoid the sky-high rent in the US and Canada and make the move sooner to the EU.The financial issues aren't a huge obstacle, and after all our missionary ancestors had much bigger obstacles than we do! But from practical stand-point, using the proceeds of something like a home sale in the US just make it all the more easier to get moved in and clear up any hassles ahead of time once in Europe, so you can focus more on ministry right away!

And one more great thing about moving to the EU right now, it's incredibly family-friendly! We were excited to learn that the family of a teacher we knew from my elementary school, had moved with her family to do mission work in France a few years ahead of us, and raise their family there! Turns out they have 4 kids they also had to move there and they were apprehensive about the move at first. But France and the other EU countries made it very easy for them to access child care in the EU and get their kids in good schools and programs, and transition gradually to doing things fully in French or even faster for the younger kids. They're bringing their kids up as fully French as a way to help integrate them into French society and fully connect with the communities they're ministering in, and turns out that the French institutions and in other countries do their best to help you with this! So don't hesitate if you have kids in tow, they really do help you with that. We'll be following in their footsteps with our own kids and planning to raise them fully French as well, and especially for the early years, things like international schools and tutors (very affordable there) can further help with all those things.
 
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This is probably a simple-sounding question as I've yet to start my first missions personally, but do churches in say a country like Holland open themselves to outsiders into the congregation, the informal way that many US churches do, or do most people put down roots in a community first and then get referred by a friend or neighbor? I know European churches tend to be more established and i've been interested in teaming up with other missionaries to start a new one, but it's probably a good idea to attend services first in a church already there. I don't yet speak Dutch but I'll be working for a couple years in South Africa and learning Afrikaans, which is like Dutch, and already speak a sprinkling of Italian and German that I could build on, so I could probably get a feel for the sermons once I move to Holland in a few years with enough other languages to get a foothold once there. Just curious about the cultural norms as far as new member church attendance is concerned.
It is heartwarming to hear you have elected yourself a vessel in God's hands. But from my experience, it pays to commit it to prayer and I don't mean some random praying. Take some time (a retreat if you like) to fast and pray over it; don't tell God where you want to go but ask the Holy Spirit to guide you where you would be most useful.

IOW, just tell God, I am ready, use me. Tell me where (which country/community/church) to go. The fasting could be 3 or 7 days as you are able to, you'll be amazed how things will turn out afterwards. Succesful evangelists are those that put themselves at God's disposal rather than those who 'pick and choose', where to go themselves.

Just my thoughts, but it never fails when committed to God's hands and, trust him to lead you.
 
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Greetings Cecile,
Thank you for adding this very important point, which means a lot especially to Americans, Canadians and Australians making a permanent move to Europe for our ministries along with our families, or the families we are about to start. As you imply, we have indeed found that one of the biggest sources of hesitation for potential missionaries is worries about the practical challenges of moving our families to a new country, and getting settled there. Even for those of us with direct roots in the European country we're moving to (and those of us who gain jus sanguinis citizenship in that ancestral land), it can be a daunting adjustment, especially since we're moving there for good and raising our kids as ex. Belgian, French, German, Swedish, Dutch, Austrian, Italian or whatever nationality of the country we're ministering to, as a way to fully integrate there. As any parent knows, it's important to ensure good schools, housing and community integration for the sake of our kids.

But fortunately, this is one area where the European ministries make the process much easier, as they are among the most family-friendly countries in the world. Especially for those of us coming in from North America, it's if anything a lot easier to raise our children in those countries with the help of their daycare and family leave programs. Since most of us at least in our group are from Texas and the Southwest (with some from Florida, Alabama and Mississippi), we're accustomed to childcare and family leave policies that are often quite expensive and limited. In this regard, those of us who've made the move to minister in Europe (whether in our ancestral country, or in another like France after we've gotten citizenship in our ancestral land) have tended to find it much easier to raise a child there. It's good to know this simply to relieve this particular element of concern and have one less worry on our minds when we set out to do overseas ministry. The children of our flock have flourished in their new homes in Europe, leaving us free to focus more of our efforts on our ministries and church rebuilding and new building efforts (in which, happily, our kids more and more are also involved in).
 
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Greetings Trivalee,
Thank you for expressing these thoughts. I agree greatly with your wise and guiding words here, and many of us in our flock have indeed benefited greatly from retreats to use the apt word you mentioned. One of the challenges of ministry in our modern world is that for all the conveniences and communications benefits of modern technologies, they also bombard our eyes and ears constantly, making it difficult to step out and contemplate, and simply connect with the Word of the Lord and His meaning and gifts to our communities. You are absolutely right that sometimes, the best medicine is to step out, go into a forest or cabin or wherever one feels safe and isolated from the pressures and constant messaging from the world, and just think and connect. To let the Word of the Lord come to us, inspire us and guide us forward.
 
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Another soon-to-be-ministering in Europe family here and we're so excited to see so many other kindred families here lighting the way for the growing numbers travelling down the same path! We're originally from New Bern in North Carolina, and we recently got the paperwork and arrangements lined up to get our German citizenship official, though we'll be splitting our ministry work there and in Austria and France, where it looks like a lot of others of y'all have been active! It sounds like lion's share of the American families blazing the European ministries trail have been hailing from the Plains, Texas and SW regions where we know the Charismatic Churches have been doing a lot of recruiting, but just wanted to represent the good folks of North and South Carolina, we know us Carolinians can be a bit low key about these things but fear not, we're active and excited about ministry and eager to join into the great mission y'all have been doing such incredible things for!

There's a lot of great and ready usable advice here on all the specifics already, we'd only add a couple things to maybe answer some more questions and fill in some blanks. Like it sounds like the majority of you, we've also used our family ancestry to get the permits to move back to the European country some of our ancestors came from, and then the European Union free movement arrangements to move and minister elsewhere. (Maybe taken for granted, but free movement in the EU is a godsend for mission work, it's probably one of the main game-changer factors allowing the missions in Europe to spread and recruit followers much more effectively than decades before) As far as we know the pathway has several names and can see jus sanguinis being used here, but whatever the term, it makes things 100-times easier so absolutely use whatever Europe ancestry you can get papers for to skip through all the hurdles immigration usually involves. We've had church members get into EU countries for their ministries through other paths too, like as students or getting a visa for work (if for example their ancestry goes too far back, like to the 1600's, to be able to qualify through most of the ancestry paths), and in some cases have been able to bring their kids along. But it's much, much easier at every step if you can navigate the ancestry-based path, and speeds up the move a great deal.

In case this wasn't mentioned before, another big pro of getting an EU citizenship by ancestry is that it's designed for families with children. This is one of the hardest parts about migrating anywhere, it's much easier for singles going to work or study alone than for parents with children--the kids often have to be brought in through a separate visa process and that can be a bear for a parent on a temporary visa themselves. The ancestry-based citizenship gives you a full passport in the EU, and it means you can bring your children over with you, in one fell swoop. In fact, part of what inspired us to get our own genealogical paperwork together was a couple from Wisconsin who preceded us to Germany, where they're now raising their 6 kids thanks to an ancestry visa that gave them a quick route into their new home. We know we speak for a lot of parents here when we say we struggle a lot with the simplest things for just our 2 kids, and our fellow congregants are the same just managing the basics for their 1, 2 or 3 kids--it was hard to imagine all the steps that must be involved in getting them all visas, schools and new homes in a country across the Atlantic Ocean. So you can imagine our astonishment upon hearing that this couple from Wisconsin was able to bring all 6 of their kids over and make a smooth transition in what was basically a straightforward hop, skip and jump into Europe! The ancestral ties really do make everything about the necessary steps go so much faster and easier, so this is one case when it's absolutely worth it to go digging through those old family albums and tracing your roots in as much detail as you can!

Now just one little caveat to that, the one challenge right now with going the route of getting EU citizenship with an ancestral link is that a lot of other Americans (and indeed apparently many Australians and Canadians) are doing the same thing these days, and the consulates are reporting record applications and submissions to get such visas in EU countries. That's obviously slowed the process down a bit, it's not as bad in North Carolina but we've been hearing from others working on the same path, having to wait many weeks or even many months before they can get their consular appointment to get the ancestral visas. So a useful bit of advice we got from the wonderful young man who helped us prepare our own paperwork--as soon as you are aware of an ancestor who can qualify you (lots of discussion boards on the specific rules and cases), book your appointment with the consulate since there can be a months long delay. And then when the appointment date approaches, make sure you have all your paperwork together to demonstrate exactly what they need to grant you that visa and citizenship!

Most of the time, people get seen by the consulate with jurisdiction in wherever they're living, but if you can manage to get an appointment in another region that's maybe less busy (or where you have family that you can mention to support a case for making a visit there), then by all means look at that option too. Another option to speed things up, especially if you've been planning a European vacation anyway--make arrangements to present your paperwork and see the immigration officials in Germany, Austria, Italy or wherever you're interested in moving to, back in the EU itself! This is in fact probably the fastest option if you can find some way to get to Europe, and you can usually get an appointment with someone there who speaks English to help with the steps, though of course any language skills you have or interpreters and translators you can bring along can help too. It's also useful to keep in mind that the ancestry that qualifies you for ancestral-based citizenship can often go way, way back. Not sure how much y'all have heard about the history of New Bern, but our lovely hometown gets its name from Bern in Switzerland since it was settled by people from that region--all the way back in the early 1700's. Even with that, over the centuries the churches, courts and town registries made sure to keep good records, and Germany is one of the European countries that grants citizenship in lots of cases even for people with ancestry that goes way, way back (and ours does go a while back).

And above all, take heart that you're not going through the steps alone! There's a huge number of Americans who've moved to the EU in recent years and happily for us, a massive number already doing ministry there. So there's a lot of information and assistance from people who've blazed that trail to Europe before you, especially in very helpful areas like making arrangements for schools, activities and friendships for your kids, which us parents obviously think and plan for a lot. It's like having a big extended family and community already waiting there to help you out in your new home. And from our experience, they indeed do welcome you with open arms!
 
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Greetings Ellen,
A great thanks for your detailed and informative post. I would add that in addition to jus sanguinis systems being of particular help for families with children making the move to Europe, they are also a great assistance in expediting the path towards actually starting the mission work in the adopted country for the missionary and family members. This was an early hindrance many of us encountered before we fully understood how to make use of our ancestral ties in the EU to make migrating there easier, and of the more frustrating outcomes is that we had to spend much of the first 3 years simply getting our feet on the ground, and our visas and permits in order before we could really do much in terms of building or assisting with local churches. Doubly so of course, if we had to handle all those steps with multiple kids making the move too!

With jus sanguinis, again it's worth emphasizing that you become full citizens of the EU country where you can demonstrate eligible ancestry, and with that, you gain the right to move to move to any other country in the bloc (as many of our own group have also done in France, for example). So there are fewer strings attached that for ex. with work and similar visas, where you'll often have a sponsor and need to exert more effort with things like licenses and specific occupational engagement. There are lots of church, conversion and ministry projects already in progress wherever you'll go, many well staffed by Americans who previously made the trip, and access to the resources you'll need to start a new one as you get apprenticed. The ancestry based path helps you and your family get directly to that point much faster and easier, so it's worth really talking to your relatives and combing through genealogical records to find any ancestry you can that will qualify you for it.
 
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Love what y'all are doing here! We've been hearing about some of our churches in Mississippi organizing things like this and some families made the move, is this something we could do? We got the idea you have to be skilled to get all the visas and things for Europe, my husband's a factory worker and good with his hands, couldn't ask for a better handyman to fix things up at home! But he's not like a computer programmer, and I'm a schoolteacher. Our family in Europe goes way back to Ireland, England, France and Germany, my uncle used to tell us tales about how we were descended on one side from French Huguenots. Our ancestors fought the British in the Revolutionary War, that's how far we go back but can we use this to get a visa?

One more thing we're wondering, we know y'all are talking a lot about church building in Europe. We love, love this idea! We took a tour through Italy, France, all the way on up to Holland few years ago, it was a country tour so there were a lot of charming little hamlets trying to raise funds to build parish churches. Like I said my husband's a great handyman and our kids would love to get involved in building a church or something like a manse for a pastor, but we don't actually have any experience as builders or anything like that. So is there anything else we could do on a mission if we can get ourselves to Europe? We're happy to move there permanently and raise the kids there just like y'all are suggesting, it's just that we're not sure how to make ourselves useful. Thanks if y'all have any suggestions and have a blessed weekend!
 
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Love what y'all are doing here! We've been hearing about some of our churches in Mississippi organizing things like this and some families made the move, is this something we could do? We got the idea you have to be skilled to get all the visas and things for Europe, my husband's a factory worker and good with his hands, couldn't ask for a better handyman to fix things up at home! But he's not like a computer programmer, and I'm a schoolteacher. Our family in Europe goes way back to Ireland, England, France and Germany, my uncle used to tell us tales about how we were descended on one side from French Huguenots. Our ancestors fought the British in the Revolutionary War, that's how far we go back but can we use this to get a visa?

Greetings Mandy, apologies for a quick response as we're heading out the door to help one of our congregants for her flight (she's herself in process of making the move to Europe in steps, to become asst. pastor in a small new French parish church!), but for this question I think you may simply be linking together two concepts that are related but distinct, as far as qualifying for a visa. If you do have ancestry that qualifies you to get a visa, and citizenship in an EU country, that's separate from things like work, education or skills, that is it's a separate track. If your ancestry qualifies, then you get citizenship in the EU, irrespective of your skills or work experience. And you may indeed still qualify even with ancestry going so far back.

Down in Texas where our main churches are based, there's a large Texas German population in north of the state that goes back to the mid-1800's, some even to the later 1700's (moved down to Texas in the 1800's) yet many have still got jus sanguinis visas to move their families to Europe. I can't go into detail here but in Germany, there's a set of policies that state that you and your kids in the US are still German citizens if your connection to the mother country is unbroken. It's a bit complicated but I believe there are resources on social media, for ex. some reddit sub-forums on citizenship in Germany that talk about this. Same goes for other EU countries where you have ancestors. And if you want to try getting set up in Europe with a skills visa, then fear not! Those countries need good factory workers and teachers too, in fact if anything the EU is much more focused around manufacturing then the US is, so there are plenty of jobs in the factories and you could still qualify for things like the Blue Card. It's a longer and more involved process, which can be tiresome at times since all the paperwork and visas can delay what you're going to Europe to do, to get involved in the churches and ministry. But from our group and others that we're aware of in our regional network, there are thousands of Americans who have done this over the past decade and a half, so it's still very doable. You'll have to gather up whatever you can about your family history, research for ex. those sub-forums online, talk to consultants and thus to know for sure.
 
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Greetings Mandy,
Apologies again that I couldn't get to all your questions in a single swoop last time, but to answer your other major question, don't worry too much if you lack experience, skills or certification as builder, there's plenty to do in the European missions aside from church building. We may place an especial emphasis on new church construction partially since it's such a glorious example of the fruits of our efforts. This has indeed been one of the principle foundations of mission efforts since the earliest Church fathers and followers of St. Paul took it upon themselves to spread the Good Word, as it's written in Matthew 16:18: "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church." So it's natural that these efforts are celebrated, but it's not the only or even the bulk of what we do. I'd say the most common and most important contribution that the American missionaries are making in Europe is simply attending and supporting worship services in both the established and the new churches. Many have had ups and downs in recent years, but the mission efforts there have been a major contributor to the restoration of many houses of worship in Europe, from small parish churches to once neglected cathedrals. One of our Australian partners almost single-handed revitalized a small village church in the south of France for example, when she and her family were able to attract a number of other congregants from their part of Australia to settle there and both receive and assist with Sunday services. (It's not far from the newly built parish church where our own volunteer whom we took to the airport is helping with pastoral services.) Also there are many other efforts with things like preparing worship materials, translating Bibles and hymns, conversion efforts, social media, printing flyers, distributing charity, outreach and many other things we're welcoming more help with!

And keep in mind, you don't necessarily need to be a certified architect, contractor, civil engineer, tradesman or other specialist to help with church building if you do decide you wish to go in such a direction. We always partner with a local contractor, engineer or building authority anyway simply to meet the building codes. In our own missionary group for instance, we've had recent building launches in Sweden, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Austria, the Netherlands and Ireland by my accounting, and in each case, our minutes show a partnership with a local authority who's helped to provide technical assistance over and above what our own teams have assisted with. You and your kids can absolutely still help with key parts of building churches or other important structures even without specialized experience as someone will always be there to assist with the technical needs.
 
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Thank you so so much for answering our questions, and apologies if we didn't do the best job of formulating them :) We did manage to use our little personal network to reach someone over in Oxford who'd been in contact with a consulate, confirmed what you said that the ancestor visa and skills visa are two different tracks. And even better news, talked to another family with relatives on both sides of the Sabine river in Louisiana and Texas, said their German ancestors also came over way back in around the 1790's. But they still managed to dig up enough documents to get a stamp of approval to get citizenship, and they're bringing them and their 3 kids over to SE Germany late next year. Hubby's apparently done a lot with desktop publishing, so they'll helping to print out new Bibles and updated hymnals for the church they're joining up with! Does sound like a lot of ways to pitch in so we're filled with joy and promise at all the things we can do big and small to help in our ministries, and we're starting the process. We'll be sure to update if anything useful for future migrating ministers and missions comes up as we're at it!
 
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