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I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could dissolve my doubts, by answering the question of who the one-eyed shepherd is from the book of Zechariah.
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I am earnestly seeking answers, and I hope someone can answer this for me. Also please pray that all the deception I have endured lately, will end soon and God will deliver me and show me truth. It is much appreciated. Thank you, all, in advance.

I am only going to substitute a few words in the passages of Zechariah you are referencing, to clear up the context of the material. Then we can talk about the passages briefly:

Original (Zechariah 11:17)
Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock!
the sword [shall be] upon his arm
and upon his right eye:
his arm shall be clean dried up
and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

Word Substitution (Zechariah 11:17)
Woe to the "Prophet" that leaveth the "Faithful"!
the "Gospel" [shall be] upon his "Work"
and upon his "Testimony":
his "Work" shall be clean dried up
and his "Testimony" shall be utterly darkened.

Original (Zechariah 13:7)
Awake, O sword, against my shepherd,
and against the man [that is] my fellow,
saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered:
and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

Word Substitution (Zechariah 13:7)
Awake, "Gospel", reprove my "Testimony"
and "Reprove", the "Testimony" of my "brother",
saith the LORD of hosts: "Bless the Prophet", and "Cast out the Unclean Spirits"
and "Then will the Lord", "Bless the Congregation"

The subject is not Christ, or the Antichrist (Ancient of Days, "Moses and Elias"). The subject is the "walk of faith", of someone that is separating themselves from "Blasphemy and Dead Work", that does not produce spiritual truth. You referenced a religious text that is designed to produce only "Blasphemy and Dead Work" ... there is a greek concordance, maybe some of the new age bibles, you would be better off referencing next time. (I was going to reply a bit earlier, but given the nature of the question and misquotes being made, I figured, that I would just come back later) (The "Shepard" would be the "Body of Believers", or simply the "walk of faith" we make with the gospel).
 
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Personally, I love the article (even though I haven't finished it yet). I didn't see anything about "witch burning" or "prophet stoning" like you mentioned. I found the entire thing totally relatable to my situation, and I thought it was a really good read.

In the beginning, when he talks about Christians who come out of paganism wanting to keep magic practices because they think they need it to protect themselves from evil spirits or are worried about things like fate and destiny, I agree with that. Before I was saved, I used to use divination a lot because I was so dependent on it. I found out about horoscopes when I was little from a Barbie coloring book, and ever since then I started reading them every morning in the newspaper. I wanted to know how my day would be - what I should do and not do. When I got a little older, I started checking 3 horoscopes a day on the internet, then 6, then 10. I kept tabs open on my laptop every night, to websites that told me my horoscope (Chinese zodiacs as well as the traditional ones). One day I was checking my horoscope on Facebook, and unlocked points to try other apps related to that one. I clicked on something called "Chien Tung" which is Chinese fortunetelling by throwing sticks.

I got hooked on that, and eventually looked up more sites that would also let me play Chien Tung. Through those I found out about Tarots, Runes, IChing, Mahjong Tiles, Playing Cards,etc. All the answers I got from using divination were so accurate, that's why I always went back to using them. I wouldn't make a single decision without consorting some kind of fortuneteller because I was fearful of making the wrong decision and ruining my life. I used it to know what I should do, where I should go, who I should date, what I should wear, etc. It got out of control, but I couldn't even see how bad it was. When I got saved, I didn't want to stop using divination, so I figured it was okay to still do it, as long as I addressed my questions to God. So instead of asking the cards something like "What should I do with my life?" I asked "What does God want me to do with my life?". I started getting mixed answers when I did this and eventually all the answers were telling me that God wanted me to kill myself.

I talked to a group of people who were Christians about this, and asked them if God was mad at me for some reason because my tarot cards told me that He wanted me to kill myself, and one of the girls who heard that got really freaked out and told me that God wasn't talking to me through those cards, but demons. She showed me a website that taught me how to cast out demons, and while I was reading the prayers, I felt a lot of stuff coming out of my body. That was the same day I received the Holy Spirit. At the end of the prayer, it said "Ask God for the Holy Spirit", I didn't know what that would do, but I prayed for it anyway, and before I finished my sentence, I felt a strong wind come over me and go inside my body. After that I received the gift of spiritual discernment(being able to see angels and demons), prophecy, and healing.

Even though all these amazing things happened, and I knew divination was wrong after that, I still went back to it every now and then. I was used to asking a question and getting immediate answers, being told what to do in every situation, and the constant assurance that things were going to be okay. I didn't really feel like I got all those things when I became a Christian. I prayed for an answer about things, but I didn't always get an answer. A few times, by the Spirit, I did; but not for every thing, and that frustrated me. So I went back to fortunetelling to get answers about things that God wouldn't tell me or was taking to too long to tell me. That only opened more doors to evil spirits, later, and most of the answers I got weren't even true. I eventually got delivered from my addiction to it, and I had to learn to really trust God. That was one of the hardest things I ever had to do in life, but the Bible really helped me in this. There were so many promises in the Bible that comforted me and let me know that I didn't need to worry about things because God was handling my life for good, even if it didn't look like it. I think that's kind of what the article is about.

Paul was comforting people who came out of things like this, who had a dependence on magic and reading their destiny in the stars. He was letting them know that it doesn't matter what the stars say about their fate because God had already predestined them to salvation and a good life.

Also the author talked about using magic to keep evil spirits away. I can kind of relate to that, since I basically used to do the same thing. I didn't know that it was magic when I was doing it, but I got a lot of suggestions from Christians to keep demons away by using salt, holy water, olive oil, burning sage, covering myself in a tallit, etc. None of those things are biblical, but I would have done anything to keep demons away, so I adopted all of the suggested practices. I started looking for new ways to keep demons away and came across sites that used spells, incantations, rope rituals, and amulets; and I decided to Christianize it to make it "acceptable to God". Eventually, God led me out of all these things to realize that what I was doing was wrong, and I haven't gone back since.

I don't know if I could be called a "witch burner" for agreeing with pretty much everything stated in the article, but I do agree that depending on magic/shamanism/star reading/ and any other spiritual practice found outside of the Bible can be dangerous; and it isn't necessary if we are in Christ.

Thanks pomegran for introducing me to this article :)
OH dear I have no problem with what he was talking about in a general way. what I call "witch burning" is
"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.23"Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,…"
so you got alot out of it.. I think that is great!

but my complaint was he/ she / who ever can have a study about concepts and not name people. Because you can't prove what was being taught by God and what wasn't, just because it failed in his eyes..
to write off a whole man ministry is wrong. I personally saw most of the times and ages that he is condemning not from the same perspective you have . and truth is that if those men and their crews had not ventured out there you wouldn't have even known to pray for or even ask for those things to happen that sets us free. no one remembers The church of even 50 years ago didn't have a clue.. they were rolling in the isles and or doing snakes.. at best to prove
" the spirit" or worse things .. and all of
"science" which used to be the church and still is Catholicism / Romanism/ centralism/ control for 2000 years it has been in denial of most all spiritual concepts , well maybe those they thought they had or thought they could control or what they deemed 'safe' enough. because no one knew anything about most of those subjects except maybe how to burn people at the stake or put them on a rack to 'deliver' them.
This guy who ever it is , I didn't look . because i'm talking concepts .S/ He needs to remember hind site is 20/20 and give grace and some mercy for the stumbling and bumblings of GOD"s little children with all poopy diapers, but who's desire was to do what Jesus and Elijah did " which was to set the captives free and to bind up the broken hearted " and to grow in the knowledge of Jesus and his life and actions. it clearly states these things will follow those who believe and for nearly 1500 to 1800 years that hasn't happened.
Those kids who love to be a tool in his hands to set real people free from real issues was the motivation from what I saw, though it didn't work out that way often .

but what would we known to do and not to do if we had to wait for folks who can only see backwards to lead us ?

or who don't have the mercy and grace to allow failure ?


We're just His children trying to help Big daddy with bigger Issues than we can even understand probably .
but hind site is 20/20 and the Elijah's who can teach an Elishah are very very very very few and even farther in between.
burning folks at the stake is easy , cheap or worse. every Atheist on this list is advanced expert at accusations and would love nothing more than to try it..
But what few "leaders" do do is allowing His kids to do what only his kids can do by the rights he gave them to do it , for now , the failures and all! it all is priceless because that is what his death paid for and bought! it bought a covering for us . right? not the right to 'sin' but the right to fail at our attempts at being useful to him. He only cares that we try and put those talents(10/ 5 and 1 talents , the parable) to work and not bury them in fear of failure! because he gets and creates the increase anyway.

I am talking against concepts in the way he presented his accusations against individuals . ok? we can talk generalize concepts , In the same way Murder is wrong but do we back bite Abraham ? God still asked Abraham to make a fool of himself and go and act like he was going to offer his son as a sacrifice. didn't we all learned so much by that
"failure" ? really was it a failure ? aren't we glad he didn't succeed ? aren't we glad he had faith through that process ?


if any of us thinks that we are getting out of this deal and not look like a foolish child that ain't going to happen! get the diapers ready boys and girls.. I thank some of those ministries for some of those "failures" . because we all learned boat loads of what not to do. and by that we also learned what to do. Besides just sitting back and mocking and accusing like those who are way to common on these lists, people who can only take someone no where anyone wants to be and hasn't already been before and don't want to go back again .
 
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Wow, I had just decided that I wouldn't believe any voice, dream, or vision until I read through the entire Bible again. Thanks for the Bible plan. I was using another Bible in a year plan, but it wasn't chronological it was ordered by the Torah, History, Poetry, Prophets, Gospels, and Epistles. I will switch to the chronological reading plan, since I was told to read it that way a month ago, and am being told again.

That's great Amina! Please realize this...God is NOT going to give you all the answers right away. Some things you will recognize through the Holy Spirit right away....some things you won't have the full understanding of right away...and some things you will not understand at all, and will have to wait on God's timing to understand.

We grow with grace!
 
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I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could dissolve my doubts, by answering the question of who the one-eyed shepherd is from the book of Zechariah.

I have been up all night, since I found these two verses in relation to an Islamic end-time prophecy:

“Woe to the worthless shepherd,
Who leaves the flock!
A sword shall be against his arm
And against his right eye;
His arm shall completely wither,
And his right eye shall be totally blinded.” (Zechariah 11:17)

“'Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd,
Against the Man who is My Companion,'
Says the Lord of hosts.
'Strike the Shepherd,
And the sheep will be scattered;
Then I will turn My hand against the little ones.'" (Zechariah 13:7)

I've read multiple commentaries that say Zechariah 11 is about the antichrist, but Zechariah 13 is about Christ, since He quoted it about Himself, and God says the Shepherd is His companion.

I have multiple problems with this. The shepherd is either:
1. Christ
2. The Antichrist
or
3. Neither

If the shepherd is Christ, why does God call Him "worthless, idol, vain, false"?
If the shepherd is the Antichrist, why would Jesus quote that verse about Himself? Wouldn't that mean He is the Antichrist and a false shepherd?
And if the answer is neither, then who is it talking about.

In the Islamic end-time prophecy, there is a man called the Dajjal (antichrist), who is said to have one eye (a left one), and will lead people astray by performing miracles.
According to http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/masdaj.html , these are the things written about him.
  • He will emerge between Shaam and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Judea.
  • The Yahudis (Jews) of Isfahaan will be his main followers.
  • Apart from having mainly Jewish followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well.
  • He will have with him fire and water, but in reality the fire will be cold water while that what appears to be cold water will in reality be a blazing fire.
  • Those who obey him will enter "his Heaven" while those who disobey him will enter "his Hell."
  • There will be a thick fingernail-like object in his left eye.
  • The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" ( Kafir which means "unbeliever") will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all Muslims regardless of them being literate or not.
  1. He will have a wheatish complexion.
  • He will travel at great speeds and his means of conveyance will be a gigantic mule. It is said that he will play beautiful music which will attract the music lovers.
  • Dajjal will lay claim to prophethood.
  • He will then lay claim to Divinity.
  • He will perform unusual feats.
  • He will travel the entire world. He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
  • He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.
  • During those trying times the Muslims will satiate their hunger through the recitation of Subhanallah and La'ilaha Ilallahu.
  • The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal.
  • He will be unable to enter Mecca because the angels will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to enter Medina because there will be angels guarding each of the seven entrances to Medina; From Medina he will proceed towards Shaam where Imaam Mahdi (the Muslim messiah) will be stationed.
  • Finally Isa (A.S.) (the Muslim Jesus) will descend from the heavens and pursue him and eventually kill him at present day Lydda (Baad Lud).
I partially think the person they are describing is the Christian Jesus, since he will say he is a prophet and God, while performing miracles, but they say their Jesus (the Christian False Prophet) will kill him. If the prophet is the Christian Jesus, He wouldn't be able to be killed, so now again, I think the one-eyed shepherd is someone completely other than the Christian Christ or Antichrist. He must be someone completely different.

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Before I go any further into questioning, I feel like I should explain what I have been going through the past six months. When I first became Christian, I was apart of a cult, which I didn't realize was a cult until I recieved the Holy Spirit. The pastor I was under claimed to be a prophet and the 3rd Elijah prophesied in the Book of Malachi. He performed a lot of miracles but was always asking for money and cursing people who didn't agree with him. He was very cruel, calling people stupid and telling them to die, so I could see that he definitely didn't have the fruit of the Spirit.I left there and after a year, met a guy who I became friends with. He started telling me about his church and a prophetess he was under who gave a lot of new revelations. She told them what the "true" name of Jesus and God were and told them to only pray to that name, she isolated them from anyone who didn't agree with her, and said Jesus told them to kill those people. He said he has seen signs from her, such as healing miracles, people turned to werewolves, floods, and people coming up missing. I told him he was in a cult and he got mad at me. We stopped talking after many arguments about it, but I was experiencing a lot of false signs trying to convince me that she is a true prophet of God. I felt something like a snake crawling in my brain, and had many headaches after that. I started seeing signs of scriptures condemning my unbelief and hearing a lot of sermons that seemed to tell me I was wrong, even though I knew I was right about her, and memorized multiple scriptures that she contradicted in her teachings.

I have been seeing images of eyes, and false gods(egyptian, hindu, Shiva, etc.) appearing everywhere for the past few months, although there are no more signs trying to convince me she is a prophet. I have had satanic dreams trying to convince me that I'm evil, a reincarnated being, or showing me occult/illuminati symbols. I feel that my faith is being tested, and the devil is doing whatever he can to turn me away from God. A few weeks ago, I prayed asking God to show me the truth, and the face of Jesus appeared on the door on the room I was in, but both His eyes were closed like they are on the Shroud of Turin(that's actually what the image looks like on my door). A few days ago, I was looking the image again, and was thinking it was weird that the eyes weren't open, and right when I was thinking that a left eye appeared on the face on the door, but it was small and angry looking and looked evil. So was disturbed and considered the whole thing to be another false sign from Satan, but now I found these verses in Zechariah and the Islamic end time prophecies, and I don't know what to think.

False signs appear frequently, now, since I came out of the Word of Faith Movement. The movement believes that we can speak life into existence just like God can, and focuses on making declarations and decrees and reciting Bible verses to get what we want. It isn't any different than the law of attraction, and how wiccans perform spells. I know this because I used to read a book on gemstones and Bible Spells. Whenever I think something, good or bad, I tend to see an image related to it a few seconds later. I used to think God was speaking to me and giving me confirmation of things, but now I know I opened a door to false signs by practicing false doctrines for so long.

So I don't know what to think of these prophecies. Besides having the one-eye, the shepherd is also supposed to have one arm, but that isn't mentioned in Islam. On the other hand, none of the apostles ever said anything about Jesus only having one eye when He rose from the dead. There is also nothing about a one-eyed adversary in any of the other end time prophecies (Isaiah, Daniel, Revelation, etc.), so I also think the one eye-antichrist is specific to Islam, and has nothing to do with Christianity, since the verse never says it is talking about the antichrist, but is the interpretation of some theologists.

I am earnestly seeking answers, and I hope someone can answer this for me. Also please pray that all the deception I have endured lately, will end soon and God will deliver me and show me truth. It is much appreciated. Thank you, all, in advance.

Context is very important and when determining context you need to read on further to gauge the chronology of events that the context is pointing to. It is like a before and after shot. The shepherd in Zechariah 11 is the before take/shot and the shepherd in Zechariah 13 is the after take or re-take so to speak.

First the worthless spiritually blind shepherd that God placed to take care of the flock is removed because he became too righteous in his own eyes, hence the symbol used is that of the right eye. His works which symbolises his right arm became unfruitful to God.

Let us look at those versus closely:

Zechariah 11:15-17
And the Lord said unto me, Take unto thee yet the instruments of a foolish shepherd.
The instruments of a foolish shepherd are those of a wayward one who has not fulfilled his duties and obligations to God as part of the conditional agreement set out in the contract/covenant.
For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land,
God gives us a before take of the first shepherd that he had established in the literal land of Jerusalem/Israel to apply the clauses in the conditional agreement set out in the contract/covenant.
which shall not visit those that be cut off,
This foolish shepherd that was supposed to deliver God's message to new adherents keeps it all to himself and doesn't bring in other new members to add to God's flock.
neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.
He doesn't care for the needs of the people but is there primarily as an instrument of punitive punishment to those who don't follow his instructions. You may have come across cult leaders who fit this personified authority, who tend to lash out at people who did not obey them.
Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock!
Idol shepherd is one who does nothing for God and voids his contractual agreement by being left out from it and also prevents the flock from being saved through the conditional contract/covenant.
the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.
This statement implies right arm meaning works and his right eye meaning his righteousness in his own eyes/mind shall be made desolate/baren void of fruit to God and his right eye that symbolises his righteousness will be his delusion to not being able to know that God is against him, yet he in his mind thinks that God is with him and gives him authority to do what he has been doing all along.


The close match of this enterprise shepherd is the levitical old covenant enterprise, because it is the before act that God places in the land of Israel before bringing forth the faithful shepherd mentioned in Zechariah 13 to usher in the new covenant/agreement.

Jesus many times stated that your house is made onto you desolate and many times Jesus would rebuke the Pharisaical system of its times that it doesn't do squat for God and every convert that they think they made, they are making twice the child of the devil. These charges being made by Jesus, who is God and many more point to the old levitical authority as the foolish shepherd that didn't bother preaching and bringing in other nations and pretty much kept everything to themselves. They would be very harsh on their own people as was shown when Jesus did miracles on the sabbath. They by virtue of their blind right eye became their delusional minds, that they became righteous in their own eyes/mind. Jesus charged them by saying even though you think you have salvation by reading the scriptures, in your own blind right eye/mind, you are far removed as a shepherd from God in your desertion and by this God considers you as having mutinied, meaning having left the flock that God left you in charge of.

The evidence between Zech 11 and Zech 13 that chronologically points to the before and after take from the foolish first shepherd to the faithful second shepherd is the following versus:

Zechariah 12:3
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.


Jesus Christ of the New Testament is the stumbling/ burdensome stone for all people especially this foolish shepherd and his flock the Jewish peoples who rejected Jesus Christ and continue to do so to this very day as a nation.

Matthew 21:42-46
Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: "'The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.”
When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them. They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

1 Corinthians 1:24
but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,


Then in Zechariah 12:8 the day came when Jesus Christ defended the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and the house of David shall be as God the Holy Ghost who will dwell in them,
as the angel of the Lord who is the symbol of Christ Jesus before them as the cornerstone that causes unbelievers to stumble.

In Zechariah 12:10 God pours upon the house of David who is the symbol of Christ Jesus, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem who have accepted David Christ Jesus as their King the Holy Spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon Jesus Christ whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

All the above prophesy was fulfilled in Christ Jesus and this chronologically provides the before and after shot of the foolish shepherd representing the old levitical authority of the old covenant during the time of Jesus when they had left their posts and abandoned the flock as far as God was concerned in relation to the context of the prophesy in Zechariah.

Now we can understand the second faithful shepherd that comes to replace the apostate shepherd who abandoned God whereby the house of the foolish shepherd was made onto him desolate which was indicated by the statement in Zechariah that his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

Your premises in your thread have nothing to do with the prophesy mentioned in Zechariah as this was a prophetic message of the foolish shepherd that was the levitical authority as compared to the faithful shepherd of the new covenant of grace who is Jesus Christ.

Chronology and context must always be considered to fully understand Old Testament prophesies in light of New Testament fulfilment of that prophesy. You need not wonder of to other worldly figures that have no bearing to the inetended context. It is declared that God had originally placed this foolish shepherd in the place called Jerusalem and so he must have been in contract/covenant with God previously before when Jesus came on the scene. This is indicative that the foolish shoe herd before Jesus came, had already broken the conditional contract where it was made null and void and Jesus would emphasis this by telling the Leviticus authority of their time that their house is made onto them desolate.

I will not even need to go into who the shepherd of Zechariah 13 is because that is just clear as daylight.

Zechariah 13:5
But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman for Christ Jesus; for Jesus Christ taught me to keep cattle from my youth.


Zechariah 13:7-9
Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
The man that was once God's fellow is the levitical authority that he had originally placed as the first shepherd. This foolish fellow/shepherd of God is used as an instrument to smite the second faithful shepherd Christ Jesus that God brings forth as the replacement to the foolish shepherd. The foolish shepherd is used to scatter the sheep of the faithful shepherd Christ Jesus, as it was in the persecution of the first century church by the hand of the levitical authority headed by Paul of tarsus.
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
God is speaking of the many called as flock to the faithful shepherd Christ Jesus that only a third of his flock will be saved. Not all Christians are saved as Jesus stated that many are called but only a few are chosen. The next verse confirms this statement.
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
Many are called to the faithful shepherd Christ Jesus and justified by his blood under the new covenant of grace and supplications spoken of in Zechariah 12:10. However many are not cleansed or sanctified by the sanctifying baptismal fire who is the Holy Ghost.


What I have described above is the true chronological context of Zechariah and Islam has no place in this prophesy.

God is simply saying it started off by the first shepherd who was once his fellow by administering the old covenant contractual agreement, then once the foolish shepherd defaulted, he was kicked out and replaced by the faithful servant Christ Jesus who was brought forth as God's replacement to the old covenant by the instituting of the new covenant of grace and supplications and they will look upon him whom they have pierced for the atonement of their sins as the many Christians who are husbandman/witnesses to the bridegroom Christ Jesus. The church in itself is the bride of Christ,
 
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Hi Amina, I know this is an old post, but I have signed up to this site in hope that I may speak with you about this very important subject regarding the Dajjal, and how he relates to Jesus Christ of the Bible. I think we may be able to help each other.

Please inbox me if this reaches you.
God bless, Lee
 
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