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It is one story, but it is not the restoration of Israel story. The one story is in the sermon in Acts 13, parts of which are restated in ch 26, a hearing. The resurrection of Christ is the goal toward which Israel's role moved. It indicates that we can be justified from our debt of sin.

Paul, who spoke both of those explanations, wanted his people to become like him; or actually, everyone: to be missionaries of that Gospel.
 
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So true, Alfred. I've gotten into too many problems when I first became a Christian by listening to what everyone said and not studying the Bible for myself. I'm almost done reading through the whole thing, but I will keep rereading it as many times as I have to to make sure I have full understanding of it.

You are correct Amina, study scripture for yourself.

Refuse to put on the weird scripture-viewing lenses people offer you. They will offer them eagerly.

Read and believe. God will open your eyes.
 
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Mental illness runs ramped in the 'christian' community.
I completely agree. I am someone who came out of the charismatic community, but I don't agree that it is "mental illness". I was reading a comment a few days ago about how only Ashkenazi Jews believe in demons, but the Jews of Morrocco and Iran don't. A Jewish man dismissed the demon-possessed people as being "Schizophrenic", which I think is very dismissive. Ashkenazi Jews most likely descend from Pharisee sects, while the Morrocan and Iranian Jews descend from Sadducee sects. Pharisees believed in demons and the resurrection, but Sadducees didn't. The man possessed with Legion would have been considered mentally insane by the Sadducees, but the Pharisees most likely saw him for what he was, demon-possessed. I actually have a friend who came to Christ a while back, and when I told him he needs to read the Bible more often, he said he stopped because every time he read, it made his schizophrenia get really bad, and it scared him to keep reading. I sent him a link to a deliverance video watched after hearing voices, which started after praying for a satanist woman. It helped him a lot and took the symptoms away. I listen to deliverance videos when I sleep, now, and it works 100% of the time to keep bad dreams and spiritual attacks away. If I do end up having a bad dream/attack, I notice it is only because the deliverance video stopped playing while I was sleep. If it was really mental illness, deliverance would not have worked.

the Father is beginning to pull the plug on us, most, if not all of us. To understand this statement you'd have to have a deep understanding of the Father and the ability to follow history and current events.
Study Genesis 1:1....the Aleph and the Tav......and all things in between. We are the between.

I'm familiar with the Aleph and the Tav, but I still don't understand your statement. What do you mean by "pulling the plug on us"? That He is trying to get us to fall away?

You have a beautiful testimony Amina (and enthralling!). You mentioned some more false signs that had just happened to you in your last post. Do you see how the one with the eyeliner and the eye of Horus is similar to what you were just writing about with the media, ,all the one eyed images, and the verses you've been questioning? Have you noticed that the enemy will use things that on your mind to scare and confuse you? When I moved from focusing on the strategy of the enemy to putting more focus on God's will in my life he had a lot less ammo to use on me. The more the Word and positive things filled my mind, the less power he had to provoke me. The false signs and dreams do still come every day and evolve like they do for you, so it's still frightening to me and confusing and anxiety provoking. However the bigger the space in my life that Christ and the Word fills, the less details and distractions I feel the enemy can use against me. So while we should not be ignorant of the of schemes of the enemy so he should not outwit us (2 Cor 2:11), we need to find the balance that helps us accomplish God's will in our lives. I do feel he is refining you through these trials.

This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

"There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe, and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them. They themselves are equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight." (C.S. Lewis from The Screwtape Letters)

I recalled this quote yesterday, and had to examine whether or not I fell into the second category. Frankly, the answer has been yes, and that's why I'm trying to ignore these signs.

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."(James 4:7)

By the way, thanks for reminding me of 2 Cor 2:11, it's been one of my favorite verses in these circumstances. I'm going to write it down and put it on my wall, later, as a daily reminder. I've still been praying for you, as much as I pray for myself. I hope, by the will of God, these things will stop soon. God bless you. Your encouragement has been more helpful than you realize.

I just read through these posts and was moved to comment on this one aspect of your posts. We go through cycles--like in a marriage--the thrill of first love, the getting used to things and going into routine--then the taking for granted --then the boredom---

It's time to take break!!! You need to go on a second honeymoon---get away, just you and God and His creation, all of nature speaks of Him. Leave the bible and all other books behind. Get back to Him, not about Him. Ask Him to increase your love for Him instead of only understanding scriptures. Marriage is give and take, we end up doing all the taking--give Him what He wants----your love--not how accurately you comprehend His Book. Yu need JOY--get it from being with Him, not by reading about what might be about Him.

(Ecc 12:12) And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

I don't know if this is possible, but I feel like at some point in my walk I may have become an idolater of the Word. By that I mean, I cared more about the Bible, and reading it, and knowing stuff, than I did about God. At first it was because I was getting constant revelation about how awesome He was and I loved Him more because of that, but after a while, I just wanted to know stuff because it was fun to know stuff. I wanted to know everything about everything, so I started reading it more in depth, starting with the writings of Solomon(since He was the wisest man who ever lived). The Book of Proverbs in my bible has almost every line color coded, boxed,and underlined. The whole thing looks like a rainbow. After a while, I realized I wasn't studying for knowledge anymore, but because I wanted to impress people.

So I switched my focus to studying the Word to do it, rather than know it, and I felt like it was more noble and glorifying to God; but I ended up making everything about works and getting other people to notice how "righteous" and "good" I was. I made lists and goals of how to acquire the fruit of the Spirit, and fulfill all the commandments Jesus taught, but that's not what the gospel is about. I was practicing moralism, and mindlessly fulfilling commandments without even thinking of Christ. I became self-righteous, and looked down on other people for not doing as much "for the Lord" as I did. But I was rebuked one day when the Lord sent me to the Book of Revelation, and made me read that I had "left my first love". I didn't understand how He could say that, and defended myself by saying "look at all the things I do for you," and went down my spiritual resume of good deeds, and immediately the Spirit asked me "Did you do it for me, or did you do it for yourself?" and I recognized that statement from Zechariah 7:5-6, "'When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months these seventy years, was it actually for Me that you fasted? 'When you eat and drink, do you not eat for yourselves and do you not drink for yourselves?" And I felt a heart sinking feeling at the realization that I wasn't anymore than a modern day pharisee, who did things in the name of God, all for myself.

So I understand what you mean by saying "Ask Him to increase your love for Him instead of only understanding scriptures." I have been praying that exact prayer. I know that God/Jesus is a person to be loved and not just a concept on paper like I have been making Him, but I still don't know how to be alone with God. By saying, "Leave the bible and all other books behind," are you saying I should I stop reading the Bible for a while, and focus on prayer?
 
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I completely agree. I am someone who came out of the charismatic community, but I don't agree that it is "mental illness". I was reading a comment a few days ago about how only Ashkenazi Jews believe in demons, but the Jews of Morrocco and Iran don't. A Jewish man dismissed the demon-possessed people as being "Schizophrenic", which I think is very dismissive. Ashkenazi Jews most likely descend from Pharisee sects, while the Morrocan and Iranian Jews descend from Sadducee sects. Pharisees believed in demons and the resurrection, but Sadducees didn't. The man possessed with Legion would have been considered mentally insane by the Sadducees, but the Pharisees most likely saw him for what he was, demon-possessed. I actually have a friend who came to Christ a while back, and when I told him he needs to read the Bible more often, he said he stopped because every time he read, it made his schizophrenia get really bad, and it scared him to keep reading. I sent him a link to a deliverance video watched after hearing voices, which started after praying for a satanist woman. It helped him a lot and took the symptoms away. I listen to deliverance videos when I sleep, now, and it works 100% of the time to keep bad dreams and spiritual attacks away. If I do end up having a bad dream/attack, I notice it is only because the deliverance video stopped playing while I was sleep. If it was really mental illness, deliverance would not have worked.



I'm familiar with the Aleph and the Tav, but I still don't understand your statement. What do you mean by "pulling the plug on us"? That He is trying to get us to fall away?



This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

"There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe, and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them. They themselves are equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight." (C.S. Lewis from The Screwtape Letters)

I recalled this quote yesterday, and had to examine whether or not I fell into the second category. Frankly, the answer has been yes, and that's why I'm trying to ignore these signs.

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."(James 4:7)

By the way, thanks for reminding me of 2 Cor 2:11, it's been one of my favorite verses in these circumstances. I'm going to write it down and put it on my wall, later, as a daily reminder. I've still been praying for you, as much as I pray for myself. I hope, by the will of God, these things will stop soon. God bless you. Your encouragement has been more helpful than you realize.



I don't know if this is possible, but I feel like at some point in my walk I may have become an idolater of the Word. By that I mean, I cared more about the Bible, and reading it, and knowing stuff, than I did about God. At first it was because I was getting constant revelation about how awesome He was and I loved Him more because of that, but after a while, I just wanted to know stuff because it was fun to know stuff. I wanted to know everything about everything, so I started reading it more in depth, starting with the writings of Solomon(since He was the wisest man who ever lived). The Book of Proverbs in my bible has almost every line color coded, boxed,and underlined. The whole thing looks like a rainbow. After a while, I realized I wasn't studying for knowledge anymore, but because I wanted to impress people.

So I switched my focus to studying the Word to do it, rather than know it, and I felt like it was more noble and glorifying to God; but I ended up making everything about works and getting other people to notice how "righteous" and "good" I was. I made lists and goals of how to acquire the fruit of the Spirit, and fulfill all the commandments Jesus taught, but that's not what the gospel is about. I was practicing moralism, and mindlessly fulfilling commandments without even thinking of Christ. I became self-righteous, and looked down on other people for not doing as much "for the Lord" as I did. But I was rebuked one day when the Lord sent me to the Book of Revelation, and made me read that I had "left my first love". I didn't understand how He could say that, and defended myself by saying "look at all the things I do for you," and went down my spiritual resume of good deeds, and immediately the Spirit asked me "Did you do it for me, or did you do it for yourself?" and I recognized that statement from Zechariah 7:5-6, "'When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months these seventy years, was it actually for Me that you fasted? 'When you eat and drink, do you not eat for yourselves and do you not drink for yourselves?" And I felt a heart sinking feeling at the realization that I wasn't anymore than a modern day pharisee, who did things in the name of God, all for myself.

So I understand what you mean by saying "Ask Him to increase your love for Him instead of only understanding scriptures." I have been praying that exact prayer. I know that God/Jesus is a person to be loved and not just a concept on paper like I have been making Him, but I still don't know how to be alone with God. By saying, "Leave the bible and all other books behind," are you saying I should I stop reading the Bible for a while, and focus on prayer?

Yes and no---leave the bible behind, don't focus on "prayer"--focus on talking to God, your thoughts, wants, likes, desires, He knows them, but you need to voice them, to communicate with Him, not at Him. You get a tad too fixated on things so you can easily get fixated on "prayer," too---Talk and Listen--or just--once in a while---shut up and enjoy being alone with Him!!! Enjoy the flower He crested, the tree, and so on--be with Him--not with "what should I say, do, know". It may take a little practice and seem strange at first--RELAX in His presence--As John who would lay his head on His shoulder. I used to get so lonely and hurt, I learned to, in my mind, go to the Lap of God and crawl on it and He would just hold me and I would gently fall asleep.---You need Him, not more about Him. Once refreshed, you can learn more again. Our brains need rest,too, not just our bodies.
 
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Amina, you've hit the rocks a lot of Christians bump against -- maybe more than most. But God has given you the wisdom to recognize their dangers, and the strength to do something about it. It is a lot to be grateful for, and proof that all that study was not really in vain.

I'm not sure that I would "focus". Rather do all the things of God:
1. Read scripture.
2. Pray.
3. Witness.
4. Fellowship with believers.
5. Memorize scritpure.

These are not quite all the things of God, but they are the things you can do daily. They are surprisingly effective in keeping focus on God, and God's things.
 
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Yes and no---leave the bible behind, don't focus on "prayer"--focus on talking to God, your thoughts, wants, likes, desires, He knows them, but you need to voice them, to communicate with Him, not at Him. You get a tad too fixated on things so you can easily get fixated on "prayer," too---Talk and Listen--or just--once in a while---shut up and enjoy being alone with Him!!! Enjoy the flower He crested, the tree, and so on--be with Him--not with "what should I say, do, know". It may take a little practice and seem strange at first--RELAX in His presence--As John who would lay his head on His shoulder. I used to get so lonely and hurt, I learned to, in my mind, go to the Lap of God and crawl on it and He would just hold me and I would gently fall asleep.---You need Him, not more about Him. Once refreshed, you can learn more again. Our brains need rest,too, not just our bodies.

Thank you so much for this advice! I will definitely do this. It sounds like it will be a fun and wonderful experience :)

Amina, you've hit the rocks a lot of Christians bump against -- maybe more than most. But God has given you the wisdom to recognize their dangers, and the strength to do something about it. It is a lot to be grateful for, and proof that all that study was not really in vain.

I'm not sure that I would "focus". Rather do all the things of God:
1. Read scripture.
2. Pray.
3. Witness.
4. Fellowship with believers.
5. Memorize scritpure.

These are not quite all the things of God, but they are the things you can do daily. They are surprisingly effective in keeping focus on God, and God's things.

Thank you as well for your advice and encouragement. I will do these too, and try not to focus too much on any one thing.
 
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Amina, I'm sorry to have broken through the pleasantness to put up defenses. It just amazes me how some people who claim to follow Christ are so lacking in love... but onto more important things.

By the way, thanks for reminding me of 2 Cor 2:11, it's been one of my favorite verses in these circumstances. I'm going to write it down and put it on my wall, later, as a daily reminder. I've still been praying for you, as much as I pray for myself. I hope, by the will of God, these things will stop soon. God bless you. Your encouragement has been more helpful than you realize.

Thank you so much for the prayers. I've been praying for you earnestly as well and will continue to do so. God bless you too! :)
 
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No, the goal is the Sabbath.

I'm pretty sure, you are a Messianic Jew by this comment. If so, Shabbat Shalom. I am as well, but I don't agree that Sabbath is the goal(unless you are talking about the eternal Sabbath, which is the resurrection/heaven). Like I said, I spent a lot of time doing good works, including keeping the Sabbath, and got away from God in the process. I was so focused on doing things that I forgot to include God in my doing them, and celebrating Sabbath and keeping the Law became all about me and what a righteous person I was. I don't recommend that. Ultimately, neither Sabbath or resurrection is the goal.Paul, by the Spirit, tells us what the goal is.

"Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you. Only let us hold true to what we have attained."(Philippians 13-16)
 
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Amina, it has been on my mind to share one more thing that I think could be of help to you. I see how you are really in involved with researching further into a lot of things. I came across this pastor's teaching and his articles when I was in the thick of feeling tormented and not knowing where to turn. He has been writing articles since 1992, and has them all on his website. They are well researched, in line with scripture, and will always point you to Christ and the Gospel. They have really helped equip me through the raging storm. I put the links below if you're interested. :)

Link to an article called "The Gospel as the True Armor of God"
http://www.cicministry.org/commentary/issue122.htm

Link to all his articles. There's a search box in the upper right corner.
http://cicministry.org/articles.php
 
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Amina,
that goal Phil 3 was a personal one, although please note that the person speaking had left Judaism as raised in it.

The passages I was referring to were a goal for the meaning or history or destiny of Israel. That is what is covered in ACts 13, and 26. For some students, it is a foreign concept that the Bible or NT itself would have any self-organizing summaries, but they are there. We do not have to rely on what people cook up today and very often today's offerings are very much focused on our generation and don't have the NT background for what they are talking about.
 
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Amina,
that goal Phil 3 was a personal one, although please note that the person speaking had left Judaism as raised in it.

The passages I was referring to were a goal for the meaning or history or destiny of Israel. That is what is covered in ACts 13, and 26. For some students, it is a foreign concept that the Bible or NT itself would have any self-organizing summaries, but they are there. We do not have to rely on what people cook up today and very often today's offerings are very much focused on our generation and don't have the NT background for what they are talking about.

I don't agree that is was only a personal goal, since he said, "Let those of us who are mature think this way." At that point, he was saying that the goal of us all should be exactly what his goal was. Sorry I misunderstood what you were talking about though.

Amina, it has been on my mind to share one more thing that I think could be of help to you. I see how you are really in involved with researching further into a lot of things. I came across this pastor's teaching and his articles when I was in the thick of feeling tormented and not knowing where to turn. He has been writing articles since 1992, and has them all on his website. They are well researched, in line with scripture, and will always point you to Christ and the Gospel. They have really helped equip me through the raging storm. I put the links below if you're interested. :)

Link to an article called "The Gospel as the True Armor of God"
http://www.cicministry.org/commentary/issue122.htm

Link to all his articles. There's a search box in the upper right corner.
http://cicministry.org/articles.php

Thank you, I will check them out :)
 
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Amina, it has been on my mind to share one more thing that I think could be of help to you. I see how you are really in involved with researching further into a lot of things. I came across this pastor's teaching and his articles when I was in the thick of feeling tormented and not knowing where to turn. He has been writing articles since 1992, and has them all on his website. They are well researched, in line with scripture, and will always point you to Christ and the Gospel. They have really helped equip me through the raging storm. I put the links below if you're interested. :)

Link to an article called "The Gospel as the True Armor of God"
http://www.cicministry.org/commentary/issue122.htm

Link to all his articles. There's a search box in the upper right corner.
http://cicministry.org/articles.php
boy he is a hard read... and I hate how he said things, and how he uses his words.. he at first appears to be just another "witch burner" or " prophet stoner ". until he gets to the very last statement.
"to flee paganism and find refuge in a church that practices sola scriptura and preaches the whole counsel of God".
mankind from the beginning has been so efficient at being witch burners and prophet stoners and king killers mostly in everyway a God Darners , that God in his wisdom decided that we all had to individually have to have all these gifts and had to at least operated in them some individually in order to be saved from "the hour of trail" , in order to be like an Enoch or Elijah we have to be like them . all mankind will be resurrected and go through the hour of trail. If we aren't willing to be an Enoch or an Elijah or David who was prophetic and also Submitted to his Samuel and kept all his neighbors even to keep all the Nabals safe even when they don't deserve it and they won't deserve it at all .. and be like David and aren't willing to even cut the hem of the kings garments even when he is trying to kill us . If we aren't willing to be all of those ( a king, a prophet , a son of God ) and know him better than we know ourselves , Then he won't "save us from the hour of trial" coming to the whole world. we can't stone the prophets , kill our kings and dominate our God with our formulas for any reason , if we have to be one of those and all of these to get " saved from the hour of Trial" or to even begin to understand REV. or all of the Bible . Because we won't kill our kings if we have to be one, we won't burn the witches if we have had to stand alone in what we know is his voice and what his word tell us to do and have been mocked by everyone who will never get it anyway.

because the default position to being those other things and to not needed to go though the processes he must take us through to be saved from the hour of trail! The whole truth is we have to become all these things mankind has never submitted to , the default to the process that brings us to those positions is to be one of the five Virgins with out oil and not ready and not prepared to work , and after the work to enter into his rest .

but in the article he seemed to turned it all around in just that very last sentence.
Sola scriptura is part of His process to being those things men have hated and killed from day one, because they want their ears tickled with lies and they really like to kill their God and kings. but in Philadelphia they didn't .
I will of course I have to read his work more to know for sure if he gets it . but man that was a hard read ( because you had to plod through the "witch" burning, hey don't name the brothers and they are brothers off base a bit but who isn't ) , just fight the concepts please ) .. but it ended great.. .
 
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... What I have learned is to battle this by continuously returning to resting in the Promises of Christ and the Bible. I know it's hard as these things are so complex and confusing but as we know, He won't let anything snatch us out of his hand and is with us always, until the very end of the age. (John 10:28, Matt 28:20) Praying for you sister. :)

I think that is a good advice. Best thing that disciple of Jesus (“Christian”) can do is to remain in his words because:

Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, "If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
John 6:63

Disciples of Jesus have no good reason to fear.

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Matt. 10:28-31

Best way to know false teachings is to know what Jesus said and then compare others to that.
 
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boy he is a hard read... and I hate how he said things, and how he uses his words.. he at first appears to be just another "witch burner" or " prophet stoner ". until he gets to the very last statement.

Personally, I love the article (even though I haven't finished it yet). I didn't see anything about "witch burning" or "prophet stoning" like you mentioned. I found the entire thing totally relatable to my situation, and I thought it was a really good read.

In the beginning, when he talks about Christians who come out of paganism wanting to keep magic practices because they think they need it to protect themselves from evil spirits or are worried about things like fate and destiny, I agree with that. Before I was saved, I used to use divination a lot because I was so dependent on it. I found out about horoscopes when I was little from a Barbie coloring book, and ever since then I started reading them every morning in the newspaper. I wanted to know how my day would be - what I should do and not do. When I got a little older, I started checking 3 horoscopes a day on the internet, then 6, then 10. I kept tabs open on my laptop every night, to websites that told me my horoscope (Chinese zodiacs as well as the traditional ones). One day I was checking my horoscope on Facebook, and unlocked points to try other apps related to that one. I clicked on something called "Chien Tung" which is Chinese fortunetelling by throwing sticks.

I got hooked on that, and eventually looked up more sites that would also let me play Chien Tung. Through those I found out about Tarots, Runes, IChing, Mahjong Tiles, Playing Cards,etc. All the answers I got from using divination were so accurate, that's why I always went back to using them. I wouldn't make a single decision without consorting some kind of fortuneteller because I was fearful of making the wrong decision and ruining my life. I used it to know what I should do, where I should go, who I should date, what I should wear, etc. It got out of control, but I couldn't even see how bad it was. When I got saved, I didn't want to stop using divination, so I figured it was okay to still do it, as long as I addressed my questions to God. So instead of asking the cards something like "What should I do with my life?" I asked "What does God want me to do with my life?". I started getting mixed answers when I did this and eventually all the answers were telling me that God wanted me to kill myself.

I talked to a group of people who were Christians about this, and asked them if God was mad at me for some reason because my tarot cards told me that He wanted me to kill myself, and one of the girls who heard that got really freaked out and told me that God wasn't talking to me through those cards, but demons. She showed me a website that taught me how to cast out demons, and while I was reading the prayers, I felt a lot of stuff coming out of my body. That was the same day I received the Holy Spirit. At the end of the prayer, it said "Ask God for the Holy Spirit", I didn't know what that would do, but I prayed for it anyway, and before I finished my sentence, I felt a strong wind come over me and go inside my body. After that I received the gift of spiritual discernment(being able to see angels and demons), prophecy, and healing.

Even though all these amazing things happened, and I knew divination was wrong after that, I still went back to it every now and then. I was used to asking a question and getting immediate answers, being told what to do in every situation, and the constant assurance that things were going to be okay. I didn't really feel like I got all those things when I became a Christian. I prayed for an answer about things, but I didn't always get an answer. A few times, by the Spirit, I did; but not for every thing, and that frustrated me. So I went back to fortunetelling to get answers about things that God wouldn't tell me or was taking to too long to tell me. That only opened more doors to evil spirits, later, and most of the answers I got weren't even true. I eventually got delivered from my addiction to it, and I had to learn to really trust God. That was one of the hardest things I ever had to do in life, but the Bible really helped me in this. There were so many promises in the Bible that comforted me and let me know that I didn't need to worry about things because God was handling my life for good, even if it didn't look like it. I think that's kind of what the article is about.

Paul was comforting people who came out of things like this, who had a dependence on magic and reading their destiny in the stars. He was letting them know that it doesn't matter what the stars say about their fate because God had already predestined them to salvation and a good life.

Also the author talked about using magic to keep evil spirits away. I can kind of relate to that, since I basically used to do the same thing. I didn't know that it was magic when I was doing it, but I got a lot of suggestions from Christians to keep demons away by using salt, holy water, olive oil, burning sage, covering myself in a tallit, etc. None of those things are biblical, but I would have done anything to keep demons away, so I adopted all of the suggested practices. I started looking for new ways to keep demons away and came across sites that used spells, incantations, rope rituals, and amulets; and I decided to Christianize it to make it "acceptable to God". Eventually, God led me out of all these things to realize that what I was doing was wrong, and I haven't gone back since.

I don't know if I could be called a "witch burner" for agreeing with pretty much everything stated in the article, but I do agree that depending on magic/shamanism/star reading/ and any other spiritual practice found outside of the Bible can be dangerous; and it isn't necessary if we are in Christ.

Thanks pomegran for introducing me to this article :)
 
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boy he is a hard read... and I hate how he said things, and how he uses his words.. he at first appears to be just another "witch burner" or " prophet stoner ". until he gets to the very last statement.

I agree he can be difficult to read but I also think it is difficult to write about such abstract topics. Thanks for taking the time to read and share your views. :)

Thanks pomegran for introducing me to this article :)

You're welcome. :) I'm really glad you could find it pertained to your experience because I was in a rush to try to find one applicable to what I've read in your posts. I do think he has a lot of things peppered throughout his articles that could be of interest to or help you if you agree with his tenets. His topics cover a lot of discernment and deception about relevant issues which I think is hard to find. Also, there are some things (very few) where I see his point of view but believe there are more possibilities. May the Holy Spirit guide each one of us. God bless :innocent:
 
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