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So true, Alfred. I've gotten into too many problems when I first became a Christian by listening to what everyone said and not studying the Bible for myself. I'm almost done reading through the whole thing, but I will keep rereading it as many times as I have to to make sure I have full understanding of it.
I completely agree. I am someone who came out of the charismatic community, but I don't agree that it is "mental illness". I was reading a comment a few days ago about how only Ashkenazi Jews believe in demons, but the Jews of Morrocco and Iran don't. A Jewish man dismissed the demon-possessed people as being "Schizophrenic", which I think is very dismissive. Ashkenazi Jews most likely descend from Pharisee sects, while the Morrocan and Iranian Jews descend from Sadducee sects. Pharisees believed in demons and the resurrection, but Sadducees didn't. The man possessed with Legion would have been considered mentally insane by the Sadducees, but the Pharisees most likely saw him for what he was, demon-possessed. I actually have a friend who came to Christ a while back, and when I told him he needs to read the Bible more often, he said he stopped because every time he read, it made his schizophrenia get really bad, and it scared him to keep reading. I sent him a link to a deliverance video watched after hearing voices, which started after praying for a satanist woman. It helped him a lot and took the symptoms away. I listen to deliverance videos when I sleep, now, and it works 100% of the time to keep bad dreams and spiritual attacks away. If I do end up having a bad dream/attack, I notice it is only because the deliverance video stopped playing while I was sleep. If it was really mental illness, deliverance would not have worked.Mental illness runs ramped in the 'christian' community.
the Father is beginning to pull the plug on us, most, if not all of us. To understand this statement you'd have to have a deep understanding of the Father and the ability to follow history and current events.
Study Genesis 1:1....the Aleph and the Tav......and all things in between. We are the between.
You have a beautiful testimony Amina (and enthralling!). You mentioned some more false signs that had just happened to you in your last post. Do you see how the one with the eyeliner and the eye of Horus is similar to what you were just writing about with the media, ,all the one eyed images, and the verses you've been questioning? Have you noticed that the enemy will use things that on your mind to scare and confuse you? When I moved from focusing on the strategy of the enemy to putting more focus on God's will in my life he had a lot less ammo to use on me. The more the Word and positive things filled my mind, the less power he had to provoke me. The false signs and dreams do still come every day and evolve like they do for you, so it's still frightening to me and confusing and anxiety provoking. However the bigger the space in my life that Christ and the Word fills, the less details and distractions I feel the enemy can use against me. So while we should not be ignorant of the of schemes of the enemy so he should not outwit us (2 Cor 2:11), we need to find the balance that helps us accomplish God's will in our lives. I do feel he is refining you through these trials.
I just read through these posts and was moved to comment on this one aspect of your posts. We go through cycles--like in a marriage--the thrill of first love, the getting used to things and going into routine--then the taking for granted --then the boredom---
It's time to take break!!! You need to go on a second honeymoon---get away, just you and God and His creation, all of nature speaks of Him. Leave the bible and all other books behind. Get back to Him, not about Him. Ask Him to increase your love for Him instead of only understanding scriptures. Marriage is give and take, we end up doing all the taking--give Him what He wants----your love--not how accurately you comprehend His Book. Yu need JOY--get it from being with Him, not by reading about what might be about Him.
(Ecc 12:12) And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
I completely agree. I am someone who came out of the charismatic community, but I don't agree that it is "mental illness". I was reading a comment a few days ago about how only Ashkenazi Jews believe in demons, but the Jews of Morrocco and Iran don't. A Jewish man dismissed the demon-possessed people as being "Schizophrenic", which I think is very dismissive. Ashkenazi Jews most likely descend from Pharisee sects, while the Morrocan and Iranian Jews descend from Sadducee sects. Pharisees believed in demons and the resurrection, but Sadducees didn't. The man possessed with Legion would have been considered mentally insane by the Sadducees, but the Pharisees most likely saw him for what he was, demon-possessed. I actually have a friend who came to Christ a while back, and when I told him he needs to read the Bible more often, he said he stopped because every time he read, it made his schizophrenia get really bad, and it scared him to keep reading. I sent him a link to a deliverance video watched after hearing voices, which started after praying for a satanist woman. It helped him a lot and took the symptoms away. I listen to deliverance videos when I sleep, now, and it works 100% of the time to keep bad dreams and spiritual attacks away. If I do end up having a bad dream/attack, I notice it is only because the deliverance video stopped playing while I was sleep. If it was really mental illness, deliverance would not have worked.
I'm familiar with the Aleph and the Tav, but I still don't understand your statement. What do you mean by "pulling the plug on us"? That He is trying to get us to fall away?
This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
"There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe, and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them. They themselves are equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight." (C.S. Lewis from The Screwtape Letters)
I recalled this quote yesterday, and had to examine whether or not I fell into the second category. Frankly, the answer has been yes, and that's why I'm trying to ignore these signs.
"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."(James 4:7)
By the way, thanks for reminding me of 2 Cor 2:11, it's been one of my favorite verses in these circumstances. I'm going to write it down and put it on my wall, later, as a daily reminder. I've still been praying for you, as much as I pray for myself. I hope, by the will of God, these things will stop soon. God bless you. Your encouragement has been more helpful than you realize.
I don't know if this is possible, but I feel like at some point in my walk I may have become an idolater of the Word. By that I mean, I cared more about the Bible, and reading it, and knowing stuff, than I did about God. At first it was because I was getting constant revelation about how awesome He was and I loved Him more because of that, but after a while, I just wanted to know stuff because it was fun to know stuff. I wanted to know everything about everything, so I started reading it more in depth, starting with the writings of Solomon(since He was the wisest man who ever lived). The Book of Proverbs in my bible has almost every line color coded, boxed,and underlined. The whole thing looks like a rainbow. After a while, I realized I wasn't studying for knowledge anymore, but because I wanted to impress people.
So I switched my focus to studying the Word to do it, rather than know it, and I felt like it was more noble and glorifying to God; but I ended up making everything about works and getting other people to notice how "righteous" and "good" I was. I made lists and goals of how to acquire the fruit of the Spirit, and fulfill all the commandments Jesus taught, but that's not what the gospel is about. I was practicing moralism, and mindlessly fulfilling commandments without even thinking of Christ. I became self-righteous, and looked down on other people for not doing as much "for the Lord" as I did. But I was rebuked one day when the Lord sent me to the Book of Revelation, and made me read that I had "left my first love". I didn't understand how He could say that, and defended myself by saying "look at all the things I do for you," and went down my spiritual resume of good deeds, and immediately the Spirit asked me "Did you do it for me, or did you do it for yourself?" and I recognized that statement from Zechariah 7:5-6, "'When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months these seventy years, was it actually for Me that you fasted? 'When you eat and drink, do you not eat for yourselves and do you not drink for yourselves?" And I felt a heart sinking feeling at the realization that I wasn't anymore than a modern day pharisee, who did things in the name of God, all for myself.
So I understand what you mean by saying "Ask Him to increase your love for Him instead of only understanding scriptures." I have been praying that exact prayer. I know that God/Jesus is a person to be loved and not just a concept on paper like I have been making Him, but I still don't know how to be alone with God. By saying, "Leave the bible and all other books behind," are you saying I should I stop reading the Bible for a while, and focus on prayer?
Yes and no---leave the bible behind, don't focus on "prayer"--focus on talking to God, your thoughts, wants, likes, desires, He knows them, but you need to voice them, to communicate with Him, not at Him. You get a tad too fixated on things so you can easily get fixated on "prayer," too---Talk and Listen--or just--once in a while---shut up and enjoy being alone with Him!!! Enjoy the flower He crested, the tree, and so on--be with Him--not with "what should I say, do, know". It may take a little practice and seem strange at first--RELAX in His presence--As John who would lay his head on His shoulder. I used to get so lonely and hurt, I learned to, in my mind, go to the Lap of God and crawl on it and He would just hold me and I would gently fall asleep.---You need Him, not more about Him. Once refreshed, you can learn more again. Our brains need rest,too, not just our bodies.
Amina, you've hit the rocks a lot of Christians bump against -- maybe more than most. But God has given you the wisdom to recognize their dangers, and the strength to do something about it. It is a lot to be grateful for, and proof that all that study was not really in vain.
I'm not sure that I would "focus". Rather do all the things of God:
1. Read scripture.
2. Pray.
3. Witness.
4. Fellowship with believers.
5. Memorize scritpure.
These are not quite all the things of God, but they are the things you can do daily. They are surprisingly effective in keeping focus on God, and God's things.
By the way, thanks for reminding me of 2 Cor 2:11, it's been one of my favorite verses in these circumstances. I'm going to write it down and put it on my wall, later, as a daily reminder. I've still been praying for you, as much as I pray for myself. I hope, by the will of God, these things will stop soon. God bless you. Your encouragement has been more helpful than you realize.
No, the goal is the Sabbath.
Amina,
that goal Phil 3 was a personal one, although please note that the person speaking had left Judaism as raised in it.
The passages I was referring to were a goal for the meaning or history or destiny of Israel. That is what is covered in ACts 13, and 26. For some students, it is a foreign concept that the Bible or NT itself would have any self-organizing summaries, but they are there. We do not have to rely on what people cook up today and very often today's offerings are very much focused on our generation and don't have the NT background for what they are talking about.
Amina, it has been on my mind to share one more thing that I think could be of help to you. I see how you are really in involved with researching further into a lot of things. I came across this pastor's teaching and his articles when I was in the thick of feeling tormented and not knowing where to turn. He has been writing articles since 1992, and has them all on his website. They are well researched, in line with scripture, and will always point you to Christ and the Gospel. They have really helped equip me through the raging storm. I put the links below if you're interested.
Link to an article called "The Gospel as the True Armor of God"
http://www.cicministry.org/commentary/issue122.htm
Link to all his articles. There's a search box in the upper right corner.
http://cicministry.org/articles.php
boy he is a hard read... and I hate how he said things, and how he uses his words.. he at first appears to be just another "witch burner" or " prophet stoner ". until he gets to the very last statement.Amina, it has been on my mind to share one more thing that I think could be of help to you. I see how you are really in involved with researching further into a lot of things. I came across this pastor's teaching and his articles when I was in the thick of feeling tormented and not knowing where to turn. He has been writing articles since 1992, and has them all on his website. They are well researched, in line with scripture, and will always point you to Christ and the Gospel. They have really helped equip me through the raging storm. I put the links below if you're interested.
Link to an article called "The Gospel as the True Armor of God"
http://www.cicministry.org/commentary/issue122.htm
Link to all his articles. There's a search box in the upper right corner.
http://cicministry.org/articles.php
mankind from the beginning has been so efficient at being witch burners and prophet stoners and king killers mostly in everyway a God Darners , that God in his wisdom decided that we all had to individually have to have all these gifts and had to at least operated in them some individually in order to be saved from "the hour of trail" , in order to be like an Enoch or Elijah we have to be like them . all mankind will be resurrected and go through the hour of trail. If we aren't willing to be an Enoch or an Elijah or David who was prophetic and also Submitted to his Samuel and kept all his neighbors even to keep all the Nabals safe even when they don't deserve it and they won't deserve it at all .. and be like David and aren't willing to even cut the hem of the kings garments even when he is trying to kill us . If we aren't willing to be all of those ( a king, a prophet , a son of God ) and know him better than we know ourselves , Then he won't "save us from the hour of trial" coming to the whole world. we can't stone the prophets , kill our kings and dominate our God with our formulas for any reason , if we have to be one of those and all of these to get " saved from the hour of Trial" or to even begin to understand REV. or all of the Bible . Because we won't kill our kings if we have to be one, we won't burn the witches if we have had to stand alone in what we know is his voice and what his word tell us to do and have been mocked by everyone who will never get it anyway."to flee paganism and find refuge in a church that practices sola scriptura and preaches the whole counsel of God".
... What I have learned is to battle this by continuously returning to resting in the Promises of Christ and the Bible. I know it's hard as these things are so complex and confusing but as we know, He won't let anything snatch us out of his hand and is with us always, until the very end of the age. (John 10:28, Matt 28:20) Praying for you sister.
boy he is a hard read... and I hate how he said things, and how he uses his words.. he at first appears to be just another "witch burner" or " prophet stoner ". until he gets to the very last statement.
boy he is a hard read... and I hate how he said things, and how he uses his words.. he at first appears to be just another "witch burner" or " prophet stoner ". until he gets to the very last statement.
Thanks pomegran for introducing me to this article
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