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Brightmoon

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Or maybe you guys need a new definition of "dies"?

I was once asked how I would handle it if the Bible said the moon was made of green cheese, and I said then scientists would have to reconsider what green cheese is.

Given academia's penchant for getting words in the Bible wrong, I would say your definition of "die" needs an upgrade to include "dormant" as well.
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nope ! As a teen ,I had a male dog that was that smart. The female dog was a fairly recent one ( I still miss my furbaby)
Someone once told me that his dog figured a way to get through his invisible fence without getting a jolt.

He told me he gets close enough to just get a tingle, then sits there until the battery runs down.

He was boasting about how smart his dog was to figure that out.

And I told him NO, that probably wasn't smart of him at all.

He probably just read it in the manual.
 
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Science did the same thing with Pluto.

Got caught with egg on their pointed faces for not having a proper definition of the word "planet."
 
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Ah but you see that Aman has the opinion that animals can’t think
Given that evolutionists consider themselves animals, I'd say Aman has a lot of evidence to back his opinion up.
 
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But all humans are animals or were you including yourself in the ones that can’t think?
I'm not an animal (despite what my wife thinks).
 
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I'm not an animal (despite what my wife thinks).
I’ll remind you that you said that the next time you eat ,breath or sleep ! I’m staying away from what your wife thinks ;) even though that’s evidence that you’re an animal too
 
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The Bible says it, that settles it.

Now ... tell me again that a corn of wheat doesn't die before it germinates; and I'll tell you you're wrong.

A gentle reminder that the scriptures do occasionally use metaphorical language ...
 
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I just read an interesting post that I couldn’t respond to on another thread . Some creationist said that plants don’t have the “ breath of life” . Now that sounds weird to me because plants do everything that animals do except walk around. They eat , breath oxygen , sleep at night, reproduce, respond to physical damage, communicate with others of the same species and insects , and some can even move rapidly, etc.

Your thoughts?

They do not eat.
 
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They do not eat.

Plants take in nourishment through their roots ... and convert sunlight striking their leaves into carbohydrates.

So ... plants eat (take in nourishment), breathe (take in air/gases), expel waste material, grow, and reproduce.

This is the essence of life ...
 
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Ah but you see that Aman has the opinion that animals can’t think

Not so, since Sweetie knows when it's 10 P.M. and hides until then because she likes it outside. I was just telling you some of the differences between animal and Human intelligence, which is like God's intelligence. Genesis 3:22 It is WHY Jesus made us. He wanted someone like Himself, since it is a terrible thing for man to be alone. Gen 2:18
 
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But all humans are animals or were you including yourself in the ones that can’t think?

False, since Humans have temporarily lost our image as the sons of God. We will regain our true image, which is like God's 1Jo 3:2 at the Rapture. We are NOT animals except in the twisted thinking of evolution and some other hate groups. Soon, Jesus will return and refute the false ToE. Amen?
 
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Plants take in nourishment through their roots ... and convert sunlight striking their leaves into carbohydrates.

So ... plants eat (take in nourishment), breathe (take in air/gases), expel waste material, grow, and reproduce.

This is the essence of life ...

Eat is followed by digest. Plants do not digest, so they don't eat.
 
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Eat is followed by digest. Plants do not digest, so they don't eat.

Digestion is, simply, separating the various nutrients of what has been taken in, ... and directing those nutrients into the plants various maintenance/growth/exhaust systems.

Plants do that ...
 
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Digestion is, simply, separating the various nutrients of what has been taken in, ... and directing those nutrients into the plants various maintenance/growth/exhaust systems.

Plants do that ...

From https://www.ck12.org/biology/Charac...son/Characteristics-of-Life-Advanced-BIO-ADV/

An individual living creature is called an organism. There are many characteristics that living organisms share. They all:
  • respond to their environment
  • grow and change
  • reproduce and have offspring
  • have a complex chemistry
  • maintain homeostasis
  • are built of structures called cells
  • pass their traits onto their offspring
 
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They do not eat.
. So why do they sell plant food at the local 99cents store? If you don’t feed a plant it will starve . The leaves get smaller and it gets sick .
 
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Digestion is, simply, separating the various nutrients of what has been taken in, ... and directing those nutrients into the plants various maintenance/growth/exhaust systems.

Plants do that ...

Plants do not digest. Plants do not have circulation function.
 
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. So why do they sell plant food at the local 99cents store? If you don’t feed a plant it will starve . The leaves get smaller and it gets sick .

Plants grow in a different way than animals. That is why God creates them on a different Day.
 
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