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yes I am open to misunderstanding of course, but reading the hebrew and the greek there should be little misunderstandingArikay said:Again, you seem to think that your interpretation Must be the correct one or god is a liar.
What if the words are truth, you are just misunderstanding them? Could that ever be possible?
But this is a falsification that could be countered by creation scientists. Just take a wide variety of seeds and maybe some chopped up plants and some tree limbs and soak them in salty water for about a year. Then take some soil and put it under salty water for about a year. Then drain the water off and throw the seeds and other plant matter onto the ground and see what grows. You can even bury some of it a bit if you want. Do you wonder why creation scientists haven't done this or if they have haven't publicized it? Could it be that down inside they know what the result would be?TrueCreation said:--Vegetation mats. Ie, plants that float or float on others that do.
--I completely agree, they hold potential falsification. Just don't try to present it to me and think you will convince me that it is in fact falsified.
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If he didn't want to go with them then shouldn't he have told the truth instead of misleading them? You are correct, it is not a lie, but it is misleading to both the reader (who expects Jesus to not attend) and to the disciples (who expect Jesus to not attend).Godzman said:Just because he went after them does not mean he lied, he told him the time wasn't right for him, meaning that possibly, appearing with them was not such a good idea.
You are correct, I was wrong and it is not a lie; but neither is Genesis. In fact there is a very strong parallel between the two. God gave the Hebrews Genesis as a symbolic story knowing full well that they would interpret it as literal. Just like Jesus told the disciples that it was not yet time for him to leave knowing full well that they ould interpret that as meaning he would not attend at all. Surely you see the connection...Lying is a sin right, so if he lied, then his death is worthless
Godzman said:yes I am open to misunderstanding of course, but reading the hebrew and the greek there should be little misunderstanding
sorta, and I see where you are coming from, and creation to me, is a minor issue, I mean in the fact that God could have created the earth, in 6 days, 1 hour, 1 billion years, an instant.troodon said:If he didn't want to go with them then shouldn't he have told the truth instead of misleading them? You are correct, it is not a lie, but it is misleading to both the reader (who expects Jesus to not attend) and to the disciples (who expect Jesus to not attend).
You are correct, I was wrong and it is not a lie; but neither is Genesis. In fact there is a very strong parallel between the two. God gave the Hebrews Genesis as a symbolic story knowing full well that they would interpret it as literal. Just like Jesus told the disciples that it was not yet time for him to leave knowing full well that they ould interpret that as meaning he would not attend at all. Surely you see the connection...
Arikay said:So it is possible that you could be wrong.
What if gods creation says you are wrong? Will you ignore it? Or go along thinking that you are right and gods creation is wrong?
Godzman said:Gods creation doesn't lie, but it is a fallen creation, so what is it actually saying
Arikay said:In the end, it appears you are willing to accept your own fallible interpretation of the bible, over anything else.
i would hope they do so they can show some evidenceArikay said:Well, Godz, creationist organizations do claim that they have Scientific reasons for creationism. If they dont, I guess they lied.
Which according to YECs is YEC and according to OECs is OEC which could be day age or gap theory or maybe something else and I guess theistic evolutionists consider that they have the true interpretation as do geocentric YECs and even the one Geocentric OEC that I have run across. If you want to talk about "true interpretations" you should probably go to appologetics. Now can any YEC explain the diversity and biogeography of plant life on earth in terms of the global flood?Godzman said:again your wrong, I am willing to take the one and only true interpertation of scripture God's over mine
did you manage to catch it and preserve it?Frumious Bandersnatch said:the one Geocentric OEC that I have run across.