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So, for something to have scientific merit, it must to some degree be measurable. I'm suddenly wondering if any of the creationist scientists out there have proposed a method for measuring the energy content of a soul?

If so, do we use an existing unit such as volts, or would it use it's own value?

For now, let's presume the soul uses its own unit, we'll call them Sparks (hat-tip Optimus Prime). Does everyone have the same Spark content, or does it vary with each person? What mechanism is used to measure Sparks?

If Person A has more kiloSparks than person B, what does this mean for person A?

If a blastocyte divides into two twins, does each twin contain half the amount of Sparks as the normal person? Ie, if 1 person normally have 1 Spark, does a twin have 500 milliSparks?

Can we tap Sparks for power? If so, do cattle or other domesticated beasts have a Spark content? Would this solve the world's energy crisis?

If we clone a spark-containing organism, does that organism share its spark content with the clone, or does the clone generate its own spark content?

If it generates its own spark content, then does that mean every individual cell has its own spark value? Could I measure a cell as containing 1 picoSpark?

Does this mean that every time I shave, I'm killing picoSouls?
 

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So, for something to have scientific merit, it must to some degree be measurable. I'm suddenly wondering if any of the creationist scientists out there have proposed a method for measuring the energy content of a soul?
I don't know about souls, but I like to speak of what I call Shekinah Energy; and it wouldn't be measurable until someone can created a machine that can measure it.

And a good way to test the machine's efficacy would be if it can do this:

17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

So if it can detect angels all around us, I would say it's working.
 
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So until the machine can show us fantasy creatures it's not working?
They don't necessarily have to be fantasy creatures.

You guys can't find who's creating crop circles, let alone Who created the field itself.
 
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I don't know about souls, but I like to speak of what I call Shekinah Energy; and it wouldn't be measurable until someone can created a machine that can measure it.

And a good way to test the machine's efficacy would be if it can do this:

17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

So if it can detect angels all around us, I would say it's working.

Sorry AV, you've explicitly disparaged science, so forgive me if I don't consider you a good source for science- creationist or otherwise.
 
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So, for something to have scientific merit, it must to some degree be measurable.

Not exactly. To be scientific, it must have observable consequences in the physical universe.

I'm suddenly wondering if any of the creationist scientists out there have proposed a method for measuring the energy content of a soul?

Not to my knowledge.

The rest of your post is treating "soul" as an invariant physical property. However, that is a misrepresentation of the theology. Remember, God infuses a soul into each human sometime between conception and birth. It is immaterial as far as we know. So, since this is being done by an outside intelligent agent, you question about twins is irrelevant.

Does this mean that every time I shave, I'm killing picoSouls?

When you shave you are killing epithelial cells. The location of a soul within the body (if such an immaterial object can have a location) is not known.

I think your questions fit into the same group as "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin". You are speculating way beyond any data to test those speculations. They are based solely on arbitrary assumptions.
 
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So if it can detect angels all around us, I would say it's working.

This assumes that there are always angels all around us. What is the basis of that assumption?

Without that assumption, you would not know, if you did not detect angels, if it was because 1) the machine was not working, 2) there were no angels at all, or 3) there were no angels right there at the time you turned the machine on.
 
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This assumes that there are always angels all around us. What is the basis of that assumption?

Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

Without that assumption, you would not know, if you did not detect angels, if it was because 1) the machine was not working, 2) there were no angels at all, or 3) there were no angels right there at the time you turned the machine on.

If the machine could detect Shekinah Energy, it would be able to see the Holy Spirit.
 
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Science is for the big kids. Not the proudly uneducated mantra chanters.
Well ... we'll see if a scientist rushes in here and answers his questions to his satisfaction, won't we?
 
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So, for something to have scientific merit, it must to some degree be measurable. I'm suddenly wondering if any of the creationist scientists out there have proposed a method for measuring the energy content of a soul?

If so, do we use an existing unit such as volts, or would it use it's own value?

For now, let's presume the soul uses its own unit, we'll call them Sparks (hat-tip Optimus Prime). Does everyone have the same Spark content, or does it vary with each person? What mechanism is used to measure Sparks?

If Person A has more kiloSparks than person B, what does this mean for person A?

If a blastocyte divides into two twins, does each twin contain half the amount of Sparks as the normal person? Ie, if 1 person normally have 1 Spark, does a twin have 500 milliSparks?

Can we tap Sparks for power? If so, do cattle or other domesticated beasts have a Spark content? Would this solve the world's energy crisis?

If we clone a spark-containing organism, does that organism share its spark content with the clone, or does the clone generate its own spark content?

If it generates its own spark content, then does that mean every individual cell has its own spark value? Could I measure a cell as containing 1 picoSpark?

Does this mean that every time I shave, I'm killing picoSouls?

Have you ever seen the "Ghost Hunters" in the Discovery Channel? See what instruments are they using? I think it has some truth in it. Energy is a big word. It includes many many things in it.
 
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Yet another reason why creationists fail.

A video that's 6 minutes and 41 seconds long becomes 11 hours to them.

Well we've known they have a problem with time :)
 
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Why would a soul have energy content?

Have you ever seen the "Ghost Hunters" in the Discovery Channel? See what instruments are they using? I think it has some truth in it. Energy is a big word. It includes many many things in it.

Good point! I didn't think of that one. So how do we measure it in humans? I think slaughtering them brutally then measuring the energy content on the haunting might induce potential loss.
 
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