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No reason to talk about anything else. If memory can survive cremation then I would think that memory could survive just about anything. How about if we test your computer. WE will burn it for three hours at over 2,000 degrees and see if any of your eternal memory has survived.even if you were right on all accounts, this would only apply to people who have been cremated.
I think you should throw "The Tao of Physics" in the trash.I do not think that is important now. Science has been working on that for 2500 years and if they have not made any substantial progress then that is their problem, not mine. Carrol said:
""Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and theres no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die. If you claim that some form of soul persists beyond death, what particles is that soul made of? What forces are holding it together? How does it interact with ordinary matter?" Sean Carrol (Phd Physics Harvard)
He claims there is no way for information stored in our brains persists after we die. I do not agree with that. Because Adams and Molecules are not subject to delay and the exact way memory is stored in not that well known. Also there is some indication that information is stored in area of our body other than out brain. I am afraid the Carrol with his Physics degree from Harvard does not well prepare him to deal with neurology. People just got though deriding Gifted neurosurgeon Ben Carson for his lack of knowledge about neurology. How much more is Carrol not qualified to offer opinions about this area of study?
What Carrol is asking for is to show that information stored in our brains to persist after we die.
Not at all, we are looking at what science has to say about it.
There is no evidence that memory does NOT exist after death. We do know that memory can exist for up to 100,000 years.
He died 7 years ago, so he is not here to defend or clarify what he believes anymore. Both my brothers believe memories continue after death, so they did not go along with my dad on that belief.
Run a google search and check out the surveys. "According to a Gallup opinion survey, nearly all Americans, 98% of them, believe in a higher power".
Oh no, I am ready to discuss if all life has cognitive ability. Not just people.
I do, I just study the research and read articles by journalists that study the research.
I do not think that is important now. Science has been working on that for 2500 years and if they have not made any substantial progress then that is their problem, not mine.
He claims there is no way for information stored in our brains persists after we die. I do not agree with that.
Because atoms and molecules are not subject to delay and the exact way memory is stored in not that well known.
Also there is some indication that information is stored in area of our body other than out brain.
I am afraid the Carrol with his Physics degree from Harvard does not well prepare him to deal with neurology.
People just got though deriding Gifted neurosurgeon Ben Carson for his lack of knowledge about neurology. How much more is Carrol not qualified to offer opinions about this area of study?
What Carrol is asking for is to show that information stored in our brains to persist after we die.
Not at all, we are looking at what science has to say about it.
There is no evidence that memory does NOT exist after death.
He died 7 years ago, so he is not here to defend or clarify what he believes anymore. Both my brothers believe memories continue after death, so they did not go along with my dad on that belief.
Run a google search and check out the surveys. "According to a Gallup opinion survey, nearly all Americans, 98% of them, believe in a higher power".
Oh no, I am ready to discuss if all life has cognitive ability. Not just people.
I do, I just study the research and read articles by journalists that study the research.
No reason to talk about anything else. If memory can survive cremation then I would think that memory could survive just about anything.
How about if we test your computer. WE will burn it for three hours at over 2,000 degrees and see if any of your eternal memory has survived.
I think everyone has asked at some point in their life just how memory survives after we die. This is a subject that I would think everyone has considered to some degree.
Actually I think their memory is intact but they lose the ability to be able to access their memory.What do you think happens to Alzheimer pts.?
But the molecules & atoms are still intact after cremation and they can be used to store memory. The amazing thing is what happens if you scatter the ashes to the wind. At the resurrection God can bring all those memories back together again. For the person to be raised from the dead to receive their resurrected body. He will bring all the atoms and molecules that made up that person back together again.Since the elements used to store memory are still there, unlike in cremation.
Opps, sorry, that was a mistake, end of discussion.my ignorant little friend
Let's get to the real matter. Are you doubtful when you ask these questions and are you persuated by some Phd in physics who doesn't have a clue? Don't bother listening to someone who does not have the Holy Spirit, they are blind and unable to recognize the spiritual realm.The point Carrol was making is that there is NOTHING in science to back that up. You can not store memory using pure energy. My response was that it's a mute point because of the resurrection of the dead. The physical body is raised.
The resurrected body is a spiritual body able to transcend both realms, Jesus appeared in the upper room ... he wasn't there and then he was as if walking through the walls. He is not confined to physics, He created it.
But the molecules & atoms are still intact after cremation and they can be used to store memory.
Opps, sorry, that was a mistake, end of discussion.
I don't understand why you need to limit god by saying he needs the memory stored.
That would be one hypothesis, not saying anything about how correct you are though (to be politically correctThis is more for him than anyone else. From what I'm seeing, it seems like he's desperately trying to reconcile science with his god; severely distorting his view of reality to fit a preconceived notion that contradicts it.
If you have a question go ahead and ask. I will not be responding to "Guy1" anymore because of his lack of respect.I would also like to hear his (Norman321) answer to that
OkIf you have a question go ahead and ask. I will not be responding to "Guy1" anymore because of his lack of respect.
I don't understand why you need to limit god by saying he needs the memory stored.
Anyone who has any experance at all with computers knows about memory and the problem of decay and corruption. The only solution seems to be to back up your data. Sean Carrol asks how can memory exists apart from basic physics of atoms and electrons?
"Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics .
But the molecules & atoms are still intact after cremation and they can be used to store memory. The amazing thing is what happens if you scatter the ashes to the wind. At the resurrection God can bring all those memories back together again. For the person to be raised from the dead to receive their resurrected body. He will bring all the atoms and molecules that made up that person back together again.
In tripartite theology, the soul is the part of man's cosmology that houses the mind, the will, and the emotions.Unless you define "SOUL" then there is nothing more to be said. You are obviously basing everything on pure speculation and hearsay. Science does not work that way.
In tripartite theology, the soul is the part of man's cosmology that houses the mind, the will, and the emotions.
The only way to "change memory" is to hypnotize - to get to the soul/spirit and change its data. You cannot add some chemical to a single individual cell to make the memory of eating breakfast - the memory of going to the park.
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