Philosophical arguments against the existence of God

[Colter]

And now we've gone from irony to outright shame...

You've never once asked me what I believe...it scares you (because somewhere deep down you know I'm right)...so you avoid learning the truth at all costs. Instead, you presume...and you're wrong on every count. You don't know the slightest thing about me or atheism itself...out of willful ignorance.

Who are you to judge my motives for coming here? You quote a book you believe was dictated by magical space aliens through spiritual mediums lol. Again...this would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic.

You've talked extensively here about what you believe and it's not unique. Nonconformists are all alike, the bs is just rephrased. Recently you explained that you have no wisdom, that math is the only truth.

 

[The Cadet]

Nonconformists are all alike

You are literally the only one here who ever cites that book you keep talking about. Who, exactly, is the nonconformist again?

 

[Colter]

You are literally the only one here who ever cites that book you keep talking about. Who, exactly, is the nonconformist again?

Who do I conform with if I'm the only one talking about the Urantia Book?

 

[Ana the Ist]

You've talked extensively here about what you believe and it's not unique. Nonconformists are all alike, the bs is just rephrased. Recently you explained that you have no wisdom, that math is the only truth.

Lol never said math is the only truth...thanks for making my point.

You have no idea what atheists believe. That's your choice...hide from reality if it makes you feel better.

 

[anonymous person]

Lol never said math is the only truth...thanks for making my point.

You have no idea what atheists believe. That's your choice...hide from reality if it makes you feel better.

We have an idea of what some people believe if they tell us what they believe. Unless of course they are lying.

You have an idea of what I believe. I have an idea of what you believe.

All atheists by definition, answer a big "No", when asked the question: "Is theism true?"

As a result, they are all going to have certain beliefs about certain things.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Who do I conform with if I'm the only one talking about the Urantia Book?

No one...that's the point being made. You think you're railing against "non conformists" and you are one. No one here believes space aliens for jesus came down to earth and wrote a book using a human being...except you.

 

[Ana the Ist]

We have an idea of what some people believe if they tell us what they believe. Unless of course they are lying.

You have an idea of what I believe. I have an idea of what you believe.

All atheists by definition, answer a big "No", when asked the question: "Is theism true?"

As a result, they are all going to have certain beliefs about certain things.

Enlighten me...what do you think I believe?

 

[anonymous person]

Enlighten me...what do you think I believe?

You believe that people who affirm that Jesus was a historical person are doing so without good reasons. This is evidenced by claims you made in our debate on the subject.

You believe that the gospels record events that never happened.

Need I go on? I could list a lot of things you believe/affirm as true.

 

[Ana the Ist]

You believe that people who affirm that Jesus was a historical person are doing so without good reasons. This is evidenced by claims you made in our debate on the subject.

You believe that the gospels record events that never happened.

Need I go on? I could list a lot of things you believe/affirm as true.

Please continue...

 

[quatona]

You believe that people who affirm that Jesus was a historical person are doing so without good reasons. This is evidenced by claims you made in our debate on the subject.

You believe that the gospels record events that never happened.

Need I go on? I could list a lot of things you believe/affirm as true.

And there was me thinking you were talking about important things.

 

[anonymous person]

Please continue...

Why?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Why?

I want to see if you can get any right.

 

[anonymous person]

I want to see if you can get any right.

I didn't get those I mentioned right?

 

[Colter]

No one...that's the point being made. You think you're railing against "non conformists" and you are one. No one here believes space aliens for jesus came down to earth and wrote a book using a human being...except you.

I said nonconformist are all alike. Atheist more or less make the same worn out arguments to anyone who will listen.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I didn't get those I mentioned right?

I'd say about 25%.

 

[sparow]

So I tell you that 2+2=4...which is not only mere knowledge but also absolutely true...and you respond with some nonsense about 10 guys shearing a sheep? I'm not interested in your hobbies and your extensive knowledge of sheep lol but thanks for the laughs anyway.

Nothing you said changes the two facts that...

1. 2+2=4 is indeed just knowledge.

2. 2+2=4 is also entirely true.

With this simple example anyone can see that your quote from the UB is entirely false. I suppose the space aliens who you think wrote it should've consulted with someone with a brain before spewing that bull manure of a book upon this earth.

I understand your frustration though Colt...you constantly quote your book and no one cares. Do you ever consider why? It's because anyone who takes a peek into what the UB is usually finds out rather quickly that it's long since been disproven as a hoax. I suppose if you're not looking out for bull manure, you're bound to step in it.

If I were a philosopher I could probably tear this to bits, I am going to try any way. I likes Colt's example of 10 shearing a sheep.

2+2=4 isn't knowledge it is logic, to be knowledge it would have to be coupled to assumptions or identities.
2 what +2 what = 4 what? symbol 2 +symbol 2= 2 symbols, not 4 symbols.
2 matches + 2 matches = 4 matches, but 2 apples +2 oranges does not = 4 plumbs.
So 2+2 need not always = 4

 

[Ana the Ist]

If I were a philosopher I could probably tear this to bits, I am going to try any way. I likes Colt's example of 10 shearing a sheep.

2+2=4 isn't knowledge it is logic, to be knowledge it would have to be coupled to assumptions or identities.
2 what +2 what = 4 what? symbol 2 +symbol 2= 2 symbols, not 4 symbols.
2 matches + 2 matches = 4 matches, but 2 apples +2 oranges does not = 4 plumbs.
So 2+2 need not always = 4

You aren't a philosopher....so you didn't "tear it to bits". I gave him an example of pure knowledge...a truth statement. We can apply it to everyday life to demonstrate its truth, but we don't have to.

Furthermore, most of the other things colt mentioned are "merely knowledge". Life experiences you've had exist only as knowledge now...and so on. The only ones which don't apply are spiritual "truths" which can never be demonstrated nor proven using pure knowledge (like mathematics) and are in all likelihood just imaginary.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

No one here has ever corrected these facts, you've tried in vain.

They aren't facts; that's the point. They're misconceptions you have about atheists. Yes, we have tried to correct them, but it appears that you are incorrigible.

 

[sparow]

You aren't a philosopher....so you didn't "tear it to bits". I gave him an example of pure knowledge...a truth statement. We can apply it to everyday life to demonstrate its truth, but we don't have to.

Furthermore, most of the other things colt mentioned are "merely knowledge". Life experiences you've had exist only as knowledge now...and so on. The only ones which don't apply are spiritual "truths" which can never be demonstrated nor proven using pure knowledge (like mathematics) and are in all likelihood just imaginary.

I don't know what you mean by spiritual truth, but without a spirit dwelling in you, you would know nothing about mathematics, you would be dead.

 

[Colter]

They aren't facts; that's the point. They're misconceptions you have about atheists. Yes, we have tried to correct them, but it appears that you are incorrigible.

Joining a Christian forum to attack faith is what it is no matter how much you want to polish that turd! "Oh poor us, we are so misunderstood and persecuted". I know, I know, you are a special case, you joined while you had faith, lost it while here and now stick around to drag others into your tragic blunder.