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[AHH who-stole-my-name]

I believe that we are so overwhelmed by evil that we must withdraw. We are taught to overcome evil with good, but the scale of global and national evil is just too great.

Might I remind you of who is backing us up?

 

[Chicken Little]

It is not our vision of ourselves that we are known by. It is what has been attributed to us and when you consider that we are by the world considered the product of our culture and the nationality that enshrines it, nothing we say in our own personal defense is relevant beyond the sound of our voices.

I don't believe that !

 

[Chicken Little]

for those of you who aren't smart enough to use google.. or need emotional support or need an athletic supporter for your feelings.. in order to do a search.

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-donald-trumps-racist-supporters-scream-white-power-at-rally/

 

[Jan Volkes]

It is not our vision of ourselves that we are known by. It is what has been attributed to us and when you consider that we are by the world considered the product of our culture and the nationality that enshrines it, nothing we say in our own personal defence is relevant beyond the sound of our voices.

I don't believe that !

Believe it because it's true, how we see ourselves means nothing to how others see us.
The US is seen by some of the rest of the world as a fat noisy child, President Obama has done a lot to change that and Hillary will hopefully change it even more.
The US wants to be the worlds policeman but hasn't quite got the hang of it yet, they are still putting their big feet where they shouldn't be putting them and their need for oil is making fools of them.

 

[JustOneWay]

for those of you who aren't smart enough to use google.. or need emotional support or need an athletic supporter for your feelings.. in order to do a search.

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-donald-trumps-racist-supporters-scream-white-power-at-rally/

You said the Mexicans are the ones calling out racism. Your link does not prove that, unless you have further proof that occupy democrats are Mexican? Apparently somebody was not smart enough to get the correct evidence....

Furthermore, these people are the fringe and are building a history of absurd statements. They are not reputable. You have not proven your comment however you have exposed a group of race baiters.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/occupy-democrats/

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

I don't believe that !

Don't believe what? That we are not known by the vision we hold of ourselves. Our capacity for self delusion is only exceeded by our ability to rationalize our efforts. It is not without reason that the world sees us as something less than their savior and it is not without cause that there are elements within our own society that attempts to temper our attitudes.

Much has been said by the mouthpieces from the right about the exceptionalism of America, but in stating that they are also stating that we are the exception of the rule that binds this world together. We are not the bulwark of righteousness that we attribute to ourselves. If we were we would not have overran those who were less capable of defending themselves than we were at defeating them. Much has been done under the name of America and much more has been done under the name of Christianity. The very measures that many have used to ensure the supremacist of Christianity in this land is a testimony against them being Christ-like at all.

I don't really concern myself with the image the rest of the world has of us more than I am the image we present to ourselves. Those outside American can only interpret what they see. We, on the other hand interpret ourselves as the way we feel and feelings leave much to be desired when placed against the rigidity of reality.

 

[Chicken Little]

(staff edit)
so that is the cool part about Jesus death ,

IN CHRIST
1st I am NOT judged by what my ancestors did or didn't do . I am only judged by what I do or do not do .
2nd I am NOT judged by what my neighbor does or doesn't or do how they do or do not vote either.
3rd and so I don't care what china thinks of who I am because I live on this soil ! their reality isn't His truth .
and his cross did away with collectivism and each man is now judged by what he does .

it only matters what God thinks of who I am .
now after the Tribulation the nations go back to more of a kind of collective only in that if they don't send representives to tabernacles with their tribute the whole nation gets no or little rain. and rain is the commodity of value now and will be then also .
one of the very few things lined up for the federal government to do is secure the borders they are incapable an inept of doing what they are meant to do . so next let the states do it .

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Might I remind you of who is backing us up?

God upholds his called-out ones, not the world, which is also proceeding according to His will, to destruction.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

God upholds his called-out ones, not the world, which is also proceeding according to His will, to destruction.

You were referring to yourself, in a previous post in the first person, so I tailored my response to reflect that.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

It is not our vision of ourselves that we are known by. It is what has been attributed to us and when you consider that we are by the world considered the product of our culture and the nationality that enshrines it, nothing we say in our own personal defense is relevant beyond the sound of our voices.

This is largely true. Like "Watter's World" on the "O'Reilly Factor" our 'world' is very small. We can only affect those who are close to us. Nevertheless we can have a great influence on those. That's the best the average person can do. That said the individual is still the primary building block of any society. We each need to be the best 'blocks' that we can be.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You were referring to yourself, in a previous post in the first person, so I tailored my response to reflect that.

Sorry. We're probably not connecting exactly with our themes. Happens sometimes.

 

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