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Have a nice day, sir.
A simple "yes" or "no" would help me understand what you are saying. Either I've greatly misunderstood an otherwise viable idea you are trying to present, or perhaps your idea isn't really viable and my attempts to understand it are futile.
 
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Prior to this the earth was just a ball of water floating in space, although there was no core to make it a ball so what was it? magic from start to finish?
How many Americans believe this?

Do not go so fast. Where did you read that there was no core? Verse 9 gives you the answer.

Genesis 1 is much more profound than you can ever imagine.
 
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I take it you believe the land was created ex nihilo?

I believe it was created ex materia.

Either way, it showed up.

Ex nihilo, ex materia, the point is the land was already there "under the sky". And when the waters were gathered into seas, the land appeared.
 
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Ex nihilo, ex materia, the point is the land was already there "under the sky". And when the waters were gathered into seas, the land appeared.
Then why are we having this conversation?
 
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Prior to this the earth was just a ball of water floating in space, although there was no core to make it a ball so what was it? magic from start to finish?
How many Americans believe this?

So you believe that all space, matter, energy and time just automagically expanded from an extremely condensed state smaller than a subatomic particle to instantaneously form all the known universe.

$1 says you don't have a clue what was external force would have been compressing the universe into that highly condensed state?

If the universe is composed of these four, space, matter, energy, and time then where did the empty space, or nothing come from?

So what is the atomic number of energy?

Which came first, matter or energy?

What is form of mater is space composed of?

Take your time with you answers my friend, I got all the time in the world.

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And God called the dry land Earth;Gen 1:10

And God called the firmament Heaven.Gen 1:8

Starting at Genesis 1:1, one can deduce the heaven was the expanse of space was called heaven, and the particles of matter was called earth.

Wonder if that is where the Catholic Priest, Father Lemaitre formulated his hypothesis of the primordial atom.
 
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So what do you consider occurred on day 1?
I believe God created one of the three heavens, and the earth.

And He created the earth as a pool of water in the hollow of His hand.

Thus it was "without form and void."
 
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I believe God created one of the three heavens, and the earth.

And He created the earth as a pool of water in the hollow of His hand.

Thus it was "without form and void."

Not sure if we're on the same page.

Gen 1:3-5
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
 
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Not sure if we're on the same page.

Gen 1:3-5
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Yup.

God created the light first.

Then He created the source of the light.
 
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~AV16

O.k., Now are you sure? (Rem Jhn 5:37)
So how would you describe his dividing the light?
iluminating.png

Suppose to represent the light from the
Sun reflecting off 1/2 the Earth's surface
which at the time was covered under the
frozen waters.
 
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Prior to this the earth was just a ball of water floating in space, although there was no core to make it a ball so what was it? magic from start to finish?
How many Americans believe this?

It was formless in the beginning so it's not a ball, probably just water vapor and dust and debris in space, just like in scientific models.
 
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It was formless in the beginning so it's not a ball, probably just water vapor and dust and debris in space, just like in scientific models.

So what happens to water in sub-freezing temperatures of space? it boils then freezes.

 
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So what happens to water in sub-freezing temperatures of space? it boils then freezes.


I know but water vapor still exists in space, in abundance. They come from the center of the galaxy and of course, Ice in space when exposed to sunlight at close enough distance, it will sublime directly to water vapor. And things in space don't just stay in one place.

Also, galactic centers don't spew water in frozen form but always in gaseious (water vapor) form due to the highly energetic (hot) centers of galaxies.

Also the tail and halo of comets contain huge amounts of water vapor.

Water vapor is quite abundant in space and also ice like in comets. So I'm not sure what you're trying to prove and why you seem to disagree.
 
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Inside of sea water are the ingredients to make a lot of things.

Even gold exists in the ocean.

When God spoke, the elements came together and formed land.

Then the oceans parted and the landmass came out.

It came together out of the waters, and all "dry". Then God named the "dry", "Earth".
There was no earth before he commanded the dry to be.
There were no heavens before God stretched out the expanse between the divided in two waters of creation. Then Henamed the stretched out heavens "Sha-Mayim" ="Two", or divided, waters".

There wasn't even any "light" until day 1, after the "evening", for the globe of waters [not even named "waters" yet] wasin darkness, and the Spirit of God "brooded over the waters", and the "brooding" brought the "life" into the elements, apparently, that would be separated into the entire created things that God brought forth out of those waters of creation.
Even the heavens were not yet, when the waters were.
 
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Well, it ain't an opinion.

Gen 1:9 "And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.”And God saw that it was good."

The dry wasnt called "ground", it was called "Dry", and it was brought into "being" when God called the waters under the heavens to gather together in one place. The waters were called "seas", then, because there was one gobe of water, but different "seas/rivers/currents" in it].
It was important God spoke to only the waters under the heavens to gather together in one place, because the waters above the heavens are not gathered in one place, and are part of the system running the electric universe that God has made, which circle the earth daily, above the circle of the earth [heavens] as they have from the beginning of creation.

The "Dry" was then named "Earth".
There was no "earth" before the "Dry" was called together as one land mass, out of the waters, and named "Earth".
The "Dry" was brought forth as "dry", also, not "mud", and did not need "drying out time", but was immediately ready to bring for the vegetation all over itself, out of itself, just as the waters brought forth the fowl and sea creatures out of themselves.
 
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The dry wasnt called "ground", it was called "Dry", and it was brought into "being" when God called the waters under the heavens to gather together in one place. The waters were called "seas", then, because there was one gobe of water, but different "seas/rivers/currents" in it].
It was important God spoke to only the waters under the heavens to gather together in one place, because the waters above the heavens are not gathered in one place, and are part of the system running the electric universe that God has made, which circle the earth daily, above the circle of the earth [heavens] as they have from the beginning of creation.

The "Dry" was then named "Earth".
There was no "earth" before the "Dry" was called together as one land mass, out of the waters, and named "Earth".
The "Dry" was brought forth as "dry", also, not "mud", and did not need "drying out time", but was immediately ready to bring for the vegetation all over itself, out of itself, just as the waters brought forth the fowl and sea creatures out of themselves.

Ummm, no. In the beginning, God created the heavens AND the earth. The earth is there "at the beginning".
 
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There wasn't even any "light" until day 1, .


Thank you. I knew that there was someone with him since it is written
"And they also shall bear witness, because they have been with me from the beginning.": John 15:27
Can you tell us what color is invisible?


This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5-6

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; John 5:26

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:Col 1:15

Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. 1 Tim 6:16 Amen.


Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.John 8:42

"...darkness was upon the face of the deep. Gen 1:2
Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out.Prov 20:5
And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. Matt 14:29
The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.Job 38:30



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I know but water vapor still exists in space, in abundance. They come from the center of the galaxy and of course, Ice in space when exposed to sunlight at close enough distance, it will sublime directly to water vapor. And things in space don't just stay in one place.

You do understand the verse 3 follows verse 2, it is not a hard system to follow.


Also, galactic centers don't spew water in frozen form but always in gaseious (water vapor) form due to the highly energetic (hot) centers of galaxies.

Also the tail and halo of comets contain huge amounts of water vapor.

Water vapor is quite abundant in space and also ice like in comets.


In a galaxy 12 billion light-years away resides the most distant and most massive cloud of water yet seen in the universe, astronomers say.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...-water-cloud-quasar-black-hole-space-science/
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So I'm not sure what you're trying to prove and why you seem to disagree.

Obviously you aren't trying to prove anything either cause you mistake the facts, and offer no
supporting documents for you position, but I will ask you opinion regarding the article in National G

So you know that what they report is true or that you have seen the report and know it is true.?




Weighing in at 40 billion times the mass of Earth, the giant cloud of mist swaddles a type of actively feeding supermassive black hole known as a quasar.
 
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