[PERMANENTLY CLOSED] A question for those who.....

[Freodin]

Yes i do. I suppose i should instead believe we came from chimpanzee's, lived for 200,000 years like savage cavemen, but then all of a sudden in only 100 year span, we build computers, combustion engines, rockets, go to the moon, send probes to Mars and take high quality photos, invent TV, Radio, and a vast mountain of other technologies as well?

Are you even listening?

 

[bhsmte]

Yes i do. I suppose i should instead believe we came from chimpanzee's, lived for 200,000 years like savage cavemen, but then all of a sudden in only 100 year span, we build computers, combustion engines, rockets, go to the moon, send probes to Mars and take high quality photos, invent TV, Radio, and a vast mountain of other technologies as well?

Who told you evolution says humans evolved from chimpanzee's?

Whoever that was, let me know, I have something I would like to sell them.

 

[bhsmte]

Oh, we made that up i guess. Come on, you know thats not true. Science does say that despite your denial.

Made up is quite accurate yes.

 

[Davian]

Think about it. How is it that we have been around for 200,000 years, but only started to advance in the last couple hundred? Surely i can understand slow progress, but why would it take us 200,00 of living like cavemen, and then all of a sudden we become highly, highly advanced in olny a couple hundred years?

Evasion noted.

It is my understanding that we are not that different biologically from those ancestors from 200,000 years ago.

As for how technology comes together to get to where we are now, I suggest watching all of the episodes of James Burke's Connections, available on Youtube.

 

[Freodin]

Oh, we made that up i guess. Come on, you know thats not true. Science does say that despite your denial.

Yes, you - creationists - made that up. Go and read some real science book. The theory of evolution asserts - and can give evidence - that humans and chimpanzees have a common ancestor. Understand the difference.

At least try to understand what you are denying!

 

[Poster0]

Do you really want to know? Or are you just using your incredulity as an excuse?

Knowledge or "advancement" is not a linear process. It depends on a lot of factors that have to be present to work. Most of these factors happened to exist in the last few centuries... else we wouldn't have seen the advancement that we have.

Yes i understand technology builds on itself. I just dont believe it took us 200,000 years of living like savages, killing with bows and arrows, but then in only 100 years we become enlightened and invent the atom bomb.

 

[Davian]

So you believe we evolved from chimpanzee? Why should i take that seriously?

I do not believe that. Where did you get that idea?

 

[bhsmte]

Yes, you - creationists - made that up. Go and read some real science book. The theory of evolution asserts - and can give evidence - that humans and chimpanzees have a common ancestor. Understand the difference.

At least try to understand what you are denying!

I'd bet the ranch, real science is too scary to acknowledge.

 

[Freodin]

Yes i understand technology builds on itself. I just dont believe it took us 200,000 years of living like savages, killing with bows and arrows, but then in only 100 years we become enlightened and invent the atom bomb.

Bows and arrows are rather recent inventions, in geological terms.

But if you don't believe that it took us 200,000 years... why did it take us 6,000? The ancient greeks knew the principle of the steam engine, mechanics... were knowledgable about geometry. They even invented the concept of "atom"!

I find it highly improbable that it would take them 2,500 years to go from that to the atom bomb.

But they didn't invent it.

It took us 250 years from a workable steam engine to the moon. So why didn't Caesar do it?

 

[Poster0]

Yes, you - creationists - made that up. Go and read some real science book. The theory of evolution asserts - and can give evidence - that humans and chimpanzees have a common ancestor. Understand the difference.

At least try to understand what you are denying!

Ok help me understand then. I don't think that creationist invented this stuff. I think it has its origins in scientific community somewhere. so evolution doesn't claim that animals evolved from one species to another? Perhaps i am wrong, but isn't that what Darwin claimed?

 

[Davian]

Bows and arrows are rather recent inventions, in geological terms.

But if you don't believe that it took us 200,000 years... why did it take us 6,000? The ancient greeks knew the principle of the steam engine, mechanics... were knowledgable about geometry. They even invented the concept of "atom"!

I find it highly improbable that it would take them 2,500 years to go from that to the atom bomb.

But they didn't invent it.

It took us 250 years from a workable steam engine to the moon. So why didn't Caesar do it?

Flush toilets and germ theory. Now, that would have been useful information to have in a holy text. Yet, we got "do not murder", as if we hadn't figured that out in the meantime.

 

[Don Darling]

If you follow the genealogy in Gen:5, six thousand years have past since Adam and the Garden. HOWEVER, this does not mean that there was not already human life on the planet. The Indian Vedas mention the use of flying machines, lasers, and nuclear weapons, ten thousand years ago. On the issue of (a)theism....How strange that the brilliant minds "discover" laws of physics, marveling at the precision, the perfect balance - Who But an Omniscient self aware intelligence(I AM), could have envisioned the (end) of the universe, from its beginning - His Glory is expressed in His creation, like...'mother nature'....Please consider the limitless nature of this modulated intelligence, not the white haired old man of anthropomorphic stereotype, Thank You!

 

[Freodin]

Ok help me understand then. I don't think that creationist invented this stuff. I think it has its origins in scientific community somewhere. so evolution doesn't claim that animals evolved from one species to another? Perhaps i am wrong, but isn't that what Darwin claimed?

No, Darwin did not claim that. Evolution also doesn't claim that "animals evolved from one species to another".

Simply said, Darwin discovered that species split into different branches, which can, over time, develope in very different ways.

Our common ancestor with chimpanzees was, as far as we know, a lot more like modern chimps than modern humans. But in a way, it is as far removed from modern chimps than it is from us.

 

[Poster0]

Bows and arrows are rather recent inventions, in geological terms.

But if you don't believe that it took us 200,000 years... why did it take us 6,000? The ancient greeks knew the principle of the steam engine, mechanics... were knowledgable about geometry. They even invented the concept of "atom"!

I find it highly improbable that it would take them 2,500 years to go from that to the atom bomb.

But they didn't invent it.

It took us 250 years from a workable steam engine to the moon. So why didn't Caesar do it?

Bows are nothing new. Do you honestly believe that we humans had to hunt for our life giving food for almost 200,000 years before we finally invented a bow? And not only that but it was invented by different races of humans that were isolated from each other, and invented all at the same time? It just doesn't make sense. It makes a lot of sense that we are only around 6000 years old. That makes more sense in the timeline of technological advancement.

 

[Davian]

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On the issue of (a)theism....How strange that the brilliant minds "discover" laws of physics, marveling at the precision, the perfect balance - Who But an Omniscient self aware intelligence(I AM), could have envisioned the (end) of the universe, from its beginning - His Glory is expressed in His creation, like...'mother nature'....Please consider the limitless nature of this modulated intelligence, not the white haired old man of anthropomorphic stereotype, Thank You!

The only "intelligence" that I am aware of is produced by brains. It is biology. Does this "Omniscient self aware intelligence(I AM)" have a brain?

 

[Poster0]

Proof is for math and alcohol, not science.

And science doesn't say that it doesn't know what the singularity was.

Who was that scientist i quoted then?

 

[Poster0]

You said; you theorized.

So, what is your theory, please explain it to us, in detail.

No, i already explained it. I believe God created the universe. I believe he is the hidden force that science cannot see. So you believe that when we die, there is no soul, no spirit that lives on after death?

 

[Poster0]

Things that can't be seen, can be made up, fictional, whatever a person wishes.

You're sitting in front of an unseen elephant, you can't see it because you're not capable of believing it's there.

OK that was nonsense. Prove it was.

How do we know the big bang happened.

Science admits it hasn't proved theories yet, it can change theory. But they will try to disprove it and will accept it being disproved. Unlike stories of unseen things. They have been disproved and proven to be wrong or natural events.

Yes the Big Banf could of been an intelligent being. The problem all religions have, is they have less idea about him than the scientists. No bible said there was an explosion. Let there be light, isn't an explosion, it's light. A god could have easily said an explosion, Bronze Age men were well aware of what an explosion was.

Well at least you admit that science is part faith anyway.

 

[Poster0]

Ok, now I don't believe you're serious at all. You can't be this stupid...

Ok, correct me then, what medicines have the evolution theory gave us? Its my understanding that genetics and study of human anatomy along with cell research have provided those things. What is this evolution theory anyway? I was under the impression that is was the origin of species and how they evolve over the years. How does that help us curte disease and create medicine?

 

[Poster0]

What about troll bones? You probably know a lot about them...

Ok never mind. I was asking questions but if you would rather just call me troll then i wont bother.