[PERMANENTLY CLOSED] A question for those who.....

[Poster0]

What is the creation theory?
What is the hypothesis it works off of?
What predictions does creationism make?

O, so now that you cant prove me wrong you will attack my knowledge of science?Thats hardly rational my friend. Does a juror need to understand everything in the law before he can make a logical decision about a persons guilty? Nope.

 

[Freodin]

Clearly i do. I know they work on mathematics but that doesn't disprove what i have said at all. I haven't said that the BB theory is false, i only theorized that it was God who caused that big bang. Can mathematics prove he did not? Nope, and thats why science says that it doesn't know what the singularity is, where it came from, or where it is at now.

(My emphasis)

The inability to read and understand the responses that you get to your posts is not a great incentive to take you serious.

 

[GrimKingGrim]

...that i know of.. Neither has the evolution theory.

except modern medicine and genetic studies and every bit of technology involved with both... just gonna gloss over that

 

[Poster0]

Can you prove that dinosaur bones can not survive for that long?

No but it seems highly improbable.

 

[bhsmte]

O, so now that you cant prove me wrong you will attack my knowledge of science?Thats hardly rational my friend. Does a juror need to understand everything in the law before he can make a logical decision about a persons guilty? Nope.

Does this mean, you don't have a creation theory?

 

[bhsmte]

No but it seems highly improbable.

Sorry, the world doesn't go by what you can't understand as probable.

 

[anonymous person]

But your question was adressed to me. It was adressed to me and to all the other atheist posters who answered you here.

If you say now that it doesn't apply to me, or Oafman... or any of the others... who does it apply to? Why did you adress it to the ones you did?

Would you think it is a good and meaningful question to ask of "people who believe in the Christian God": "Hey, why do you keep sacrificing animals to Baal?"

Reference your post made at 2:52pm

 

[Freodin]

It means that its just as valid as Evolution and the BB theory is.

Of course, that ignores all the pieces of evidence that speak for both Evolution and the BB... regardless of what kind of "flaws" you think these theories have.

While creation "theory" has only assertions for it... no evidence ever found for it.

Still "just as valid"?

 

[Poster0]

except modern medicine and genetic studies and every bit of technology involved with both... just gonna gloss over that

Genetic study is highly interpretive and easily misunderstood. They once told us the world was flat too and everyone believed that, but it was not true. THe evolution theory has not produced any medicines, neither has the BB theory. You seem to be reaching. Science cant even begin to understand the complexity of genetics. We are closely related to pigs but science says we don't evolve from them. They say we came from chimps. Do you actually believe that? Dinosaur bones last 65 million years, and humans evolved from chimpanzee. No sir, i cannot rationally believe those things.

 

[Freodin]

Reference your post made at 2:52pm

Give a post number please. I am in a different time zone than you, and for me, there is no post made at 2:52pm.

 

[anonymous person]

Of course, that ignores all the pieces of evidence that speak for both Evolution and the BB... regardless of what kind of "flaws" you think these theories have.

While creation "theory" has only assertions for it... no evidence ever found for it.

Still "just as valid"?

Freodin, you're off topic.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Genetic study is highly interpretive and easily misunderstood. They once told us the world was flat too and everyone believed that, but it was not true. THe evolution theory has not produced any medicines, neither has the BB theory. You seem to be reaching. Science cant even begin to understand the complexity of genetics. We are closely related to pigs but science says we don't evolve from them. They say we came from chimps. Do you actually believe that? Dinosaur bones last 65 million years, and humans evolved from chimpanzee. No sir, i cannot rationally believe those things.

Ok, now I don't believe you're serious at all. You can't be this stupid...

 

[Freodin]

Freodin, you're off topic.

Correct. You didn't want to expand on your initial post. Poster0 insisted on keeping this debate here. So what are you going to do? Report me? That would get this thread at least heavily redacted... and we would still be ending up at you not giving any hints of what kind of people or events you are talking about.

Sooooo... to get this thread on track again: just who are you adressing with the initial post?

 

[durangodawood]

So you believe that dinosaur bones actually lasted 65 million years in the ground?

There are no 65M year old dinosaur bones.

 

[Poster0]

Of course, that ignores all the pieces of evidence that speak for both Evolution and the BB... regardless of what kind of "flaws" you think these theories have.

While creation "theory" has only assertions for it... no evidence ever found for it.

Still "just as valid"?

Evolution has no evidence either. Its just a bunch of hogwash that they imagine because they want to believe it. Seriously. Humans have not been around for millions of years, not even hundreds of thousands of years. We only recently became advanced in technology and before that we lived the same way for thousands of years. We were no better than cavemen only until the last couple centuries, and then technology exploded and took off like a rocket. If we were hundreds of thousands of years old then mankind would have been advanced long before now.

 

[Davian]

So you believe that dinosaur bones actually lasted 65 million years in the ground?

Not the bones themselves, no. Do you know what a fossil is? As someone asked earlier, did you take any science at all in school?

 

[Poster0]

There are no 65M year old dinosaur bones.

Thats strange because evolution scientists say that the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. So if there are no bones that old then surely they are mistaken about when the dinosaurs died off.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Thats strange because evolution scientists say that the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. So if there are no bones that old then surely they are mistaken about when the dinosaurs died off.

What about troll bones? You probably know a lot about them...

 

[Freodin]

Evolution has no evidence either. Its just a bunch of hogwash that they imagine because they want to believe it. Seriously. Humans have not been around for millions of years, not even hundreds of thousands of years. We only recently became advanced in technology and before that we lived the same way for thousands of years. We were no better than cavemen only until the last couple centuries, and then technology exploded and took off like a rocket. If we were hundreds of thousands of years old then mankind would have been advanced long before now.

That is an interesting assertion... but quite incorrect. There is indeed a field of science where the developement of, err, developement is studied. Short summary: "advancement" is not a linear function.

You are incorrect about the evidence for evolution being just a "bunch of hogwash". If it was, it wouldn't fit so well together.

And lastly... you keep attacking the scientific theories, but you do not even try to offer any kind of evidence for your "creation theory". You have not even tried to state it. I wonder why that is?

 

[Davian]

The theories you are referring to have been proved through the technologies they themselves developed. The BB theory has not developed any technology that i know of.. Neither has the evolution theory. The evolution theory has changed and continues to change because its not sound like they try to tell us. It has many flaws in it.

"To see the integral role of evolution in biomedical research, consider Nobel Prizes, a good indicator of the most important breakthroughs in biology. Reviewing the last 50 years of Nobel Prizes in medicine or physiology, I asked, "Is training in evolutionary biology necessary for a thorough understanding of the award-winning discoveries and work resulting from each breakthrough?" By my criteria, understanding of evolution is necessary in 47 of 50 cases. From vaccines, viral cancer genes, and nerve cell communication to drug trials, and genes controlling cholesterol and heart disease, evolutionary insights are crucial."

Evolution is a Winner for Breakthroughs and Prizes | NCSE

Do you actually believe that Dinosaur bones have survived after 65 million years?

In their original state, no.

Do you actually believe in a "God" that allegedly walked and talked in a garden that has no evidence of having existed, poofed people and animals into existence, and later, in a manner contrary to the modern understanding of genetics, populated the planet with a tiny group of individuals and animals that survived a global flood in an unbuildable boat, a flood that killed the dinosaurs in a manner that only *appears* to be 65 million years ago, because the Earth is really only somehow 6000 years old, yet remains, by every object measure to date indistinguishable from nothing?