Periodic Table

[PhoceanCity]

I've been lurking here for some time and quite often lately I stumbled across a poster (not to name him) saying that something "went the way of the periodic table". I wonder what's that mean. I've alway thought that the periodic table is a powerful tool of modern science, tested and tried against errors and that everybody would think the same. So what's the problem with it?

This is not a silly thread and please try to stay on tracks

 

[Delphiki]

That was AVET, and I think what he means by something "going the way" of it is that he simply doesn't believe in such things, as if it is some huge lie and elaborate scheme to destroy God.

 

[Nabobalis]

I've been lurking here for some time and quite often lately I stumbled across a poster (not to name him) saying that something "went the way of the periodic table". I wonder what's that mean. I've alway thought that the periodic table is a powerful tool of modern science, tested and tried against errors and that everybody would think the same. So what's the problem with it?

This is not a silly thread and please try to stay on tracks

I was wondering the same thing my self.

 

[Delphiki]

I found the comment very telling. He said something to the effect of "God willing, it will go the way of the periodic table."

Which, to me, says that he notices the oppression that religious states in the past have imposed upon the advancement of science. I doubt he intended to be that insightful.

 

[PhoceanCity]

He state that quite often in that thread and I can't remember anyone/anything trying to "oppress" the periodic table... is that another bad analogy from AVET or is it my lacking capacity to understand english

 

[Freodin]

I guess... AV never explained his thoughts behind that phrase... that he refers to fact that the periodic table "changes" - that is: newly discovered elements were and are added to it. He seems to see new discoveries as some disadvantage of science.

But don´t expect him to answer your question directly, PhoceanCity. He is a master at ignoring or evading... or denying!... questions he doesn´t like.

Once there was a thread were he asked the question: "What would Mendeleev's answer have been if asked 'How many elements in the Periodic Table'?"
I asked him back: "Do you even know (or care) what the genial idea of Mendelejev was? Do you even know why the Periodic Table is called that?"

He answered: "'No' to both questions."

What can you expect from someone who doesn´t even care about the object of his own questions?

 

[Chesterton]

Maybe he just meant his copy of the periodic table. I tossed mine out after repeatedly failing to turn lead into gold.

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Whoops. Sorry.

 

[PhoceanCity]

Maybe he just meant his copy of the periodic table. I tossed mine out after repeatedly failing to turn lead into gold.



Whoops. Sorry.

I actually enjoy a good laugh

 

[Cabal]

It's an AV meme, so just apply the general rule of thumb and save time by discarding them. They're mostly irrelevant.

With this one, it shows how updating your knowledge given new evidence or admitting that your previous ideas contained errors is a cardinal sin for some people.

 

[Supreme]

The periodic table got to the way it is today largely thanks to Mendeleev, who decided to leave gaps for undiscovered elements. He realised that elements repeated (periodicity), and so put them into groups and periods.

 

[PhoceanCity]

The periodic table got to the way it is today largely thanks to Mendeleev, who decided to leave gaps for undiscovered elements. He realised that elements repeated (periodicity), and so put them into groups and periods.

So Mendeleïev made a prediction, using his tool, wich later became true. Sound pretty regular to me.

 

[Lillen]

What I noticed as a sidenote, studying chemistry in junior high, and later in highschool the diffrent periodic tables said diffrent things. On one there was something called halfmetals on the other no such things was described.

Diffrent schoolbooks intpret science diffrently, does it not?

 

[Freodin]

What I noticed as a sidenote, studying chemistry in junior high, and later in highschool the diffrent periodic tables said diffrent things. On one there was something called halfmetals on the other no such things was described.

Diffrent schoolbooks intpret science diffrently, does it not?

Not necessarily. Different schoolbooks on different levels might include different informations though.

 

[Cabal]

What I noticed as a sidenote, studying chemistry in junior high, and later in highschool the diffrent periodic tables said diffrent things. On one there was something called halfmetals on the other no such things was described.

Diffrent schoolbooks intpret science diffrently, does it not?

Not so much interpretation as classification. It's not a periodic group as far as I know, but it was probably referring to the semimetals/semiconductors.

 

[Lillen]

Semimetals may be synonmous to halfmetals. But in highschool book it include niether of the two concepts.

 

[Cabal]

Semimetals may be synonmous to halfmetals. But in highschool book it include niether of the two concepts.

Like I said, I suspect because they aren't periodic groups (i.e. a single column), and aren't recognised by any international standard.

 

[Cabal]

There's also "poor metals" just to really muck things up.

Post-transition metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

There's also "poor metals" just to really muck things up.

Post-transition metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't forget about the speed metals.

YouTube - Joe stump - Speed metal messiah

 

[AV1611VET]

I've been lurking here for some time and quite often lately I stumbled across a poster (not to name him) saying that something "went the way of the periodic table". I wonder what's that mean.

By that, I mean it decomposed.

If, for example, I say a parchment 'goes the way of the Periodic Table', I'm saying it 'decayed to dust'.

I write it as if something is decaying, and their individual atoms are going back to the Periodic Table for reassignment elsewhere.

 

[Nabobalis]

By that, I mean it decomposed.

If, for example, I say a parchment 'goes the way of the Periodic Table', I'm saying it 'decayed to dust'.

I write it as if something is decaying, and their individual atoms are going back to the Periodic Table for reassignment elsewhere.

You do know that there is not a heaven for individual atoms which the peridoic table controls and then sends little baby to do his bidding?

Though I do sense a childs show could be made from that concept.