PERFECT!

[HARK!]

LOL.

When I see things like "the Talmud is irrefutable..." That's funny stuff. It really makes me laugh. No really!

 

[HARK!]

Does it make you uncomfortable to be called out for this in a public forum.

Are you aware that it's against the rules to call people out in these forums?

I'm going to leave this discussion right here.

Again, if you would like to discuss this in a PM; write me.

 

[Minister Monardo]

I lived in a different house for nearly every year of my childhood. My parents would drop me off at the nearest Protestant Sunday school. I got to see how several denominations think. Lots of contradictions.
I can remember more than once saying, "well at my last church they said...;" only to be met with, " if you don't believe what we believe; you're going straight to hell." I ended up a young adult, in a Sunday school class of white haired retirees. All of my peers had outgrown Sunday school and left. There were no other classes for my age group. These were the masters; and I wasn't seeing any miracles.

My mother was the most honest person I've met. I caught her in three lies in her life. The first one was the tooth fairy, then the bunny, then the giant red gnome. I had heard so many conflicting stories about YHWH, that along with the lack of miracles, conflicting stories, and a new found strong aptitude for logic and problem solving, I questioned the existence of YHWH. I figured, that Elohim was just another lie, that parents told their children, you know, so they can teach them moral values.

Fortunately YHWH endowed me with exceptional reasoning skills. I took the next logical step. I realized that the primary source of my doubt stemmed from listening to men. I decided to give YHWH one more chance. I decided that I would try to forget everything anyone had told me about YHWH. (That's not so easy to do) I decided that I would sit down and read the Bible as it is written. I started at Genesis 1:1.

It took me a while to get to the gospels. I forget which one I was reading. I was sitting on a river bank one morning reading. Something happened. I knew that YHWH was real. I didn't need a book to tell me. I wont talk about this in open forum. It's as deep as a heartbeat.

I've been seeking his truth ever since.

I had an accident and broke my knee cap in half. I walked on it in faith, until it healed, no medical treatment. I've been called a liar over this story. Oh well. People will believe whatever they want.

I broke my ankle, same deal.

In another incident:

I was in a car accident that shut down both sides of the highway, because my full tank of gasoline was sprayed over both sides. The body of my car got bent over top, and the chassis got bent underneath. I slid hundreds of feet making sparks. No flame. The was a full sized '60's vehicle. His bumper came about 9 inches from my head. I figure he was doing about 120 when his truck hit me; but I'm guessing. He told the police he was down on the floor fishing for his coffee. He never hit the brake. When I woke up Emergency personnel were all there. They were amazed to see me walk away from the wreckage. There wasn't a mark on me. They said that they would have come to get me; but they thought that I was dead. I did have a head injury; and my vocabulary was diminished to that of a five year old; and I would say each word five or so times. That was when I could speak. Sometimes I couldn't speak for days. If I tried to type; it would come out scrambled. My doctor told me that I would never speak normally again. He was wrong. I believed. I also lost a lot of mobility and was in extreme pain. The first day, I told my Atheist doctor that I believe in faith healing, and that I looked forward to a quick recovery. I could see the disbelief in his eyes. His staff was Atheist too. I kept thanking him for the work he was doing on me, and told him that I was going to tell everyone about him. He kept telling me to tell no one; that he couldn't explain why I was healing so fast; and that it wasn't him. I would look and point up to the ceiling. One of his employees told me that he was looking into faith healing; and that he believed that there is something to it. When my doctor released me he told me that I was the worst case that ever came though his door; that he had called together his staff on the day that I came in; and he told them that I didn't realize it yet; but I was going to be there for a very, very, long time. He told me that despite being the worst case; I was also the fastest healer. Hallelu YAH! I told my Atheist doctor who was behind it; and I didn't see the disbelief in his eyes anymore.

I don't think that there is anything you can tell me about grace. I've been given far more than I deserve. My job isn't to collect grace. Grace is grossly abused to defend all sorts of rebellion. My job as a slave to YHWH is to completely submit in love to his instructions. He'll show grace as he will.

Pretty Amazing. I have heard some testimonies, but yours....the first question that popped was when did the Hebrew study start?
Anyway, I don't want to get too analytical on something so personal, I appreciate what you have done here. I do have to say that I really like the way you set the atheist medical community back to their drawing board. Let me close for now and go back to bed with this, in response to your closing about grace, to be an encouragement. Just a little devotional entry I wrote:

John 1:16. And of his fullness we have all received, and grace for grace.
What then is “grace for grace”?
This can be understood by these words of the Lord to His disciples:
Matthew 10:8. “freely ye have received, freely give”.

Churches are full of people every Sunday morning who have received God’s grace, as evidenced by the fact that they got out of bed. Hallelujah! The body of Christ continues to touch lives by the hands of those who give grace. Whom have received grace, for grace.

The testimony of Christian maturity is found in the words of Paul:
Philippians 1:7. Even as it is right for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel: you all are partakers of my grace.”

The unmerited favor of God is a theological definition of grace that is widely accepted among Christians.
2 Corinthians 9:8. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work.

A Holy Spirit definition of grace: the all sufficiency of God that enables us to abound in every good work in service to the body of Christ.

2 Corinthians 8:7. Therefore, as you abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that you abound in this grace also (charity).

Since it is still better to give than to receive (Acts 20:35), continue to freely give, for we have received from His Fullness.

Amen.

 

[Minister Monardo]

You can't counter scripture with scripture. Scripture doesn't counter itself my friend.

Clever. But a single verse taken out of context creates a heresy.

 

[Minister Monardo]

Are you aware that it's against the rules to call people out in these forums?

You mean like this:
This is not the place to go into a big discussion about why this happens; but the reason is obvious.
You don't like my messages; so you derail my threads through misdirection. [accusation]
I counter with scripture that is more on point.[false defense], you usually counter with another single scripture taken out of context. This is all in the public record, and will support my statement.
If you quote a single scripture, and I post an entire passage and question your interpretation based on context, how exactly is that inappropriate. Again, no legs.

 

[HARK!]

Pretty Amazing. I have heard some testimonies, but yours....the first question that popped was when did the Hebrew study start?
Anyway, I don't want to get too analytical on something so personal, I appreciate what you have done here. I do have to say that I really like the way you set the atheist medical community back to their drawing board. Let me close for now and go back to bed with this, in response to your closing about grace, to be an encouragement. Just a little devotional entry I wrote:

John 1:16. And of his fullness we have all received, and grace for grace.
What then is “grace for grace”?
This can be understood by these words of the Lord to His disciples:
Matthew 10:8. “freely ye have received, freely give”.

Churches are full of people every Sunday morning who have received God’s grace, as evidenced by the fact that they got out of bed. Hallelujah! The body of Christ continues to touch lives by the hands of those who give grace. Whom have received grace, for grace.

The testimony of Christian maturity is found in the words of Paul:
Philippians 1:7. Even as it is right for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel: you all are partakers of my grace.”

The unmerited favor of God is a theological definition of grace that is widely accepted among Christians.
2 Corinthians 9:8. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work.

A Holy Spirit definition of grace: the all sufficiency of God that enables us to abound in every good work in service to the body of Christ.

2 Corinthians 8:7. Therefore, as you abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that you abound in this grace also (charity).

Since it is still better to give than to receive (Acts 20:35), continue to freely give, for we have received from His Fullness.

Amen.

King James Bible
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

 

[HARK!]

Clever. But a single verse taken out of context creates a heresy.

You seem to reject YHWH's perfect law.

 

[Minister Monardo]

You seem to reject YHWH's perfect law.

Only those who manipulate, reminds me of someone...

 

[Hammster]

Indeed I did. I'll try again. We are in a state of being deceived. There are levels of deception. The further we are from the father, the greater the darkness. In order to move toward the light, we must first admit the truth, that we are in darkness. Only then will we recognize that we are moving toward the light. Once you move toward the light, it only exposes more darkness. This pattern continues infinitely.

I didn't continue this thought. I decided to ask you your thoughts on this. If you don't have any; then I would encourage you to pray about it.

A lot of words, but not an answer. Let’s start from the beginning.

(CLV) 1Jn 2:4
He who is saying that I know him, and is not keeping his precepts, is a liar; and the truth of The God, is not in this one.

How perfectly must I keep them in order to not be a liar?

If you don’t know, you don’t know. It’s okay to admit that.

 

[HARK!]

If you don’t know, you don’t know. It’s okay to admit that.

Nope, I don't know the perfect truth. I can only approach it.

You seem to keep looking for a different answer than the one that I've given. If the definition of perfect in the dictionary doesn't suffice; again, ask the father to define it for you. He's the one who will judge you, not me.

 

[Hammster]

Nope, I don't know the perfect truth. I can only approach it.

You seem to keep looking for a different answer than the one that I've given. If the definition of perfect in the dictionary doesn't suffice; again, ask the father to define it for you. He's the one who will judge you, not me.

Do you think that you need to keep the law perfectly, lest you be shown to be a liar?

 

[HARK!]

Do you think that you need to keep the law perfectly, lest you be shown to be a liar?

If it is not of YHWH; who is it of?

 

[Hammster]

If it is not of YHWH; who is it of?

That really didn’t answer the question. I’m seeing a pattern.

 

[Minister Monardo]

Do you think that you need to keep the law perfectly, lest you be shown to be a liar?

If you truly know your imperfections, you easily forgive others for theirs. Wait a minute!
Did I just fulfill the Law and the prophets.